[TEC] Thermal Layers (how things work) - Page 2

Ducimus · 12-06-07, 07:33 PM

Yeah sounds familiar, im thinking about lowering the surface factor to 175. My old adjustment was 150, default is 200, split the difference.

However, theres a big difference between 0.1 sensitivty, and 0.05.

On one hand im afraid of not making them "smart" enough.
On the otherhand, im afraid of making them too smart.

AVGWarhawk · 12-06-07, 07:38 PM

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and after hearing 1,782,913 pings (today alone) I'm spent

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Just imagine if it was the real thing

Peto · 12-06-07, 07:41 PM

Ducimus: Well--I'm certainly not going to tell you what to do LOL. But--you can check out my latest creation and it might make your tweaking a little easier. I found that some of the things I tweaked for the 1st version didn't have as much effect as this time around. (at least that's how it seemed). I lowered surface factor quite a bit but it seems to be working, ie--I can get away from 1 elite SC in perfect weather without feeling like I should just fall on my sword and be done.

As many hours of tweaking it took me to try to balance things, I wouldn't wish that task on top of everything else you're doing

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Peto · 12-06-07, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

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and after hearing 1,782,913 pings (today alone) I'm spent

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Just imagine if it was the real thing

I've sealed myself in an isolation tank and I can still hear the echos.

Ducimus · 12-06-07, 10:51 PM

Im that way with DC splash's.

DrBeast · 12-07-07, 06:20 AM

Well, at least I got to remember some trigonometry when I was tweaking the sensors...always handy to have a g/f whose sister is at high-school

Me, I've always sucked at maths, despite hailing from the land of Pythagoras and Eykleides. That's why I abandoned any thoughts of becoming a computer-tech and became a veterinarian :p

scrag · 01-29-08, 12:44 PM

Just wanted to chime in here with this small note - I have no idea how the game treats it but speed is an absolute huge factor in Sonar. Why? The faster you move through the water the more your own noise adds (logarithmically) to your side of the noise equation and eventually you are moving to fast to hear the return of the echo or to passively hear the contact. So if you are going ANYTHING above 15 knots you are flying blind - particularly with WWII style active. Today’[s stuff a little different but in this time frame - you would only be seeing your own return from the sea noise if anything at all. The game has the skimmers screaming around at high speed going active and changing course - total . Passively this effect (becoming self noise limited) happens sooner. In high seas your sensors (Active and Passive) are useless for the most part. Le (ownship's component) (Powersum) + La (Ambient Limited) = LE (Total background noise). \ASW is a fairly prolong and time consuming process.

12-06-07, 07:41 PM	#18
Peto Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The details of my life are quite inconsequential Posts: 1,049 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Ducimus: Well--I'm certainly not going to tell you what to do LOL. But--you can check out my latest creation and it might make your tweaking a little easier. I found that some of the things I tweaked for the 1st version didn't have as much effect as this time around. (at least that's how it seemed). I lowered surface factor quite a bit but it seems to be working, ie--I can get away from 1 elite SC in perfect weather without feeling like I should just fall on my sword and be done. As many hours of tweaking it took me to try to balance things, I wouldn't wish that task on top of everything else you're doing ! __________________ If your target has a 30 degree AOB, the range from his base course line equals the current range divided by 2.

12-07-07, 06:20 AM	#21
DrBeast The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Somewhere Out In Space Posts: 1,408 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Well, at least I got to remember some trigonometry when I was tweaking the sensors...always handy to have a g/f whose sister is at high-school Me, I've always sucked at maths, despite hailing from the land of Pythagoras and Eykleides. That's why I abandoned any thoughts of becoming a computer-tech and became a veterinarian :p __________________ Let the Beast inside you free!

01-29-08, 12:44 PM	#22
scrag Medic Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pearl Harbor, Hawaii Posts: 161 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Speed and Sea State Just wanted to chime in here with this small note - I have no idea how the game treats it but speed is an absolute huge factor in Sonar. Why? The faster you move through the water the more your own noise adds (logarithmically) to your side of the noise equation and eventually you are moving to fast to hear the return of the echo or to passively hear the contact. So if you are going ANYTHING above 15 knots you are flying blind - particularly with WWII style active. Today’[s stuff a little different but in this time frame - you would only be seeing your own return from the sea noise if anything at all. The game has the skimmers screaming around at high speed going active and changing course - total . Passively this effect (becoming self noise limited) happens sooner. In high seas your sensors (Active and Passive) are useless for the most part. Le (ownship's component) (Powersum) + La (Ambient Limited) = LE (Total background noise). \ASW is a fairly prolong and time consuming process. __________________

12-06-07, 07:33 PM	#16
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Yeah sounds familiar, im thinking about lowering the surface factor to 175. My old adjustment was 150, default is 200, split the difference. However, theres a big difference between 0.1 sensitivty, and 0.05. On one hand im afraid of not making them "smart" enough. On the otherhand, im afraid of making them too smart.

12-06-07, 10:51 PM	#20
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Im that way with DC splash's.