[REQ] SH4 commander

[Gizzmoe]

Originally Posted by JScones

Thus I will happily leave that fun to someone else.

That´s understandable.

It would be a nice if you could release the source code, so that whoever wants to continue the legacy of SH3 Commander doesn´t have to reinvent the wheel.

[Kingswat]

sucks to hear, know how you feel, i used to do skins for halflife mods and no one would thank me so i gave up on it.


sh3 commander was great btw(just installed it or i would have said thank you sooner).

[ReallyDedPoet]

Originally Posted by Barkhorn1x

And this is it in a nutshell gentlemen (and the odd lady). Here is a guy who gives the community something very cool and he doesn't even charge for it. And a lot of what he hears is a bunch of "bitchen and moanin" about how the program couldn't get the user laid or failed to come up w/ a good recipe for French onion soup.

Can you blame him for being bitter? I can't.

Here's my policy on 3rd party applications:
- Load at my own risk
- If I like it say so on the forum
- If I really like it - donate some $$ to the dev.
- IF asked about what can be improved give feedback on the forum
- If I DON'T like it - uninstall and move on

Well said

Thanks Jscones for all of your dedication and hard work, it has been appreciated Understand your potential decision on this.

[Iron Budokan]

Any day you wake up thinking the world owes you a pat on the back, no matter what you've done, is a day you're going to be disappointed. From doctors to soldiers to moms and dads and yes, even modders. Heroes, all, but ignored nevertheless.

It's not fair, and it's not right, and I'm not defending it....but that's the way the world works.

[Chief of the Boat]

I *hate* to say it, but I never saw a 'good deal' for White Hats... that some OTHER White Hat didn't screw up.... never.

And thankless jobs... will...sadly, always be "un-thanked"

"Thanks", Shipmate JScones

COB

[Safe-Keeper]

JScones truly is an unsong hero and I fully understand his view. Yes, it's amazing how hard it apparently is for people to read readme files and manuals, or to do forum searches for old threads. It never seizes to astound me.

[Hylander_1314]

That's because everybody that doesn't read a readme file, usually expects it to work without any efforts, other than downloading and the clicking on the setup file, and whoosh, it's there majically done, with no more effort necessary. Makes you wonder how well they would have faired in the old "dos" days, before the point and click era.

[Rip]

Well if you would consider doing it for a fee, I for one would pony up $5 in advance without a moment of thought.

If not thanks for the awesome work on sh3cmdr.

[JScones]

Thanks guys.

Just to be clear though, it's not the lack of "thanks" that's the catalyst for my decision (otherwise I would have left the software industry 15 years ago, LOL!). Over 7,500 people have d/l R2.7 from my site alone, so there's definitely plenty of happy users (ie the silent majority).

I'm seriously not expecting a thanks from every one of them.

I simply don't have the scope to provide support to the remainder to a level that some expect, or require (even less so from August when my third child makes an appearance).

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

It would be a nice if you could release the source code, so that whoever wants to continue the legacy of SH3 Commander doesn´t have to reinvent the wheel.

Unfortunately I use routines from my professional library which I am not willing to release into the public domain (indeed, some modules are subject to contractual obligations and the like).

However, as developers here will attest, I am always more than happy to provide routines, usually in the developer's language of choice, whenever asked.

Anyway, who says that there will even be a need for an SH4Cmdr? :hmm:

[fredbass]

Originally Posted by JScones

Anyway, who says that there will even be a need for an SH4Cmdr? :hmm:

Well, we're going to find out soon enough, aren't we.

And speaking for the silent majority, thankyou Jaeson.

Oh, and never say never. You may change your mind once we start begging and throwing money at your feet right?

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

That´s understandable.

It would be a nice if you could release the source code, so that whoever wants to continue the legacy of SH3 Commander doesn´t have to reinvent the wheel.

I agree on both points.

SHIII Commander is by far the most important tool in my SHIII install. It just adds so much to the stock game and that is before any mods are added. As far as I am concerned SHIII Commander was the best thing to come out of the modding community.

So again I thank the gentleman in sleepy Canberra for his enormous contribution to SHIII. I only hope someone else steps up to the plate to further the legacy with SHIV.

[hyperion2206]

Originally Posted by JScones

Anyway, who says that there will even be a need for an SH4Cmdr? :hmm:

If history has taught us one thing....

[cdrsubron7]

Originally Posted by Lt commander lare

hi jones i wanted to tell you that i appreciated all your work on silent hunter commander i thought it was a great mod and i used it everytime i played silent hunter 3 im sory that some didnt like your product but i can tell you that a sub skipper such as me that has been playing sub sims since i was 10 years old great job and thanks for taking all your time and effort into doing this for the submarine community

lt cmdr lare

Well said. A job well done.




cdrsubron7

[GlobalExplorer]

I can understand him I am sure he got bombarded with mails asking for free support, when all the information could be found in the docs. For a while it is fun to teach to people but you ultimately get tired with feeding users with the spoon, tying their shoelaces every morning etc ..

As a developer, the thing you hope for is intelligent exchange with people who have come to understand your program very deeply, and giving you some new insight into the heart of the problem. You might even hope for someone offering help. Unfortunately all that is rare, very rare.

Sad.

GE

[Egan]

Originally Posted by Konovalov

SHIII Commander is by far the most important tool in my SHIII install. It just adds so much to the stock game and that is before any mods are added. As far as I am concerned SHIII Commander was the best thing to come out of the modding community.

It really, really was. It was one of the finest mods I have ever seen and one of the truest examples of a mod doing something that the game should have done out of the box. Without it Sh3 is a far less interesting - and fun - prospect.