Realism- and gameplay-related hardcode fixes for SH3.EXE - Page 94

LGN1 · 06-02-11, 01:19 PM

Hi h.sie,

sounds great

I will look whether I can find some additional messages.

There is just one thing I don't understand. It is the statement:

'If none of the above conditions is true: You get one of 8 random BDU-responses.'

I think one of the conditions must be true. Either I have sunk something or I haven't sunk anything or I sunk something neutral. What else could be

So, my question is: If I have sunk an enemy ship and my fuel and damage is fine, do I always get congratulations from the BDU? I think this would be quite annoying because getting congratulations more than once for the same thing would be boring.

Anyway, I think this is great work that allows player to mod a more variable radio traffic! Thanks a lot!

Cheers, LGN1

h.sie · 06-02-11, 02:53 PM

@LGN1: Ok, my fault - inexact explaination.

Lets assume you sunk 20000t and send a status report. For that you get a congratulation once.

Now lets assume you send a second status report but didn't sink any ship in the meantime. The fix prevents from a second congratulation for the same tonnage (the next step for a new congratulation is 30000t).

If now hull integrity, diesel and torpedoes are okay, a randomly chosen ear-candy message will be sent.

h.sie

h.sie · 06-02-11, 06:39 PM

@LGN1: The algorithm for BDU responses to status report is as follows:

If ((Hull Integrity < 50%) OR (Fuel < 33%) OR (Torpedoes <= 4)) THEN

with a chance of 50% a "Return to base" - Message is sent.

Otherwise:

If (Tonnage sunk < 0) THEN:

with a chance of 75%: a warning ("sink no neutrals") is sent.
with a chance of 25%: one of 8 random ear-candy messages is sent

If (Tonnage sunk = 0) THEN:

with a chance of 50%: one of 4 random motivation messages (e.g. be more aggressive) is sent

with a chance of 50%: one of 8 random ear-candy messages is sent

If ((Tonnage sunk > 0) AND No_Congratulation_so_far) THEN:

with a chance of 75%: a congratulation according to tonnage is sent
with a chance of 25%: one of 8 random ear-candy messages is sent

ELSE: one of 8 random ear-candy messages is sent

LGN1 · 06-02-11, 11:52 PM

Excellent, h.sie!

Just one thing I noticed: the 'return home' message because of torpedoes might be problematic for the type II and XXIII which have only a few torpedoes.

Cheers, LGN1

h.sie · 06-03-11, 03:08 AM

@LGN1: Thanks. I forgot about that point. I cannot differ between a Type XXI and a XXIII from code perspective in an easy way, since the XXIII is a XXI from code view, so I think I use the test for torpedoes only for types VII and IX (which are the most important ones).

Aces · 06-03-11, 03:28 AM

Hi mate,

Yes, thank you, for some reason better known to its self it worked when I tried it again with v15f and, although I'll probably never get to experience many of the new features as I don't actually play the game, the mod is excellent!.

Kind regards

Aces

h.sie · 06-03-11, 09:30 AM

I (hopefully) had a good idea: To program a certain chance (5% to 10%?) that a status report coudn't be received (completely) by the BDU. That would cause the BDU to response with "Transmission error, please repeat last status report!" or similar.

Arguments pro/contra this idea?

NGT · 06-03-11, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

I (hopefully) had a good idea: To program a certain chance (5% to 10%?) that a status report coudn't be received (completely) by the BDU. That would cause the BDU to response with "Transmission error, please repeat last status report!" or similar.

Arguments pro/contra this idea?

Don't complicate your life. . .

...but if you like...

Wolfstriked · 06-03-11, 04:49 PM

H.sie,any chance to make the view instantly move when you move to new view.What I mean is that right now say you Rclick into the command room and now have to move cursor around to find a spot that doesn't highlight/then press Lmouse and you now have control of the view.Seems backwards to me....when I click to look thru the binos I do not want to then have to click the Lmouse to move the view around....and then when I R,mouse out I have to then make sure I am not highlighting anything and then have to press Lmouse.

h.sie · 06-04-11, 03:08 AM

@Wolfstriked: Sorry to say, but I wuldn't even know how to start modding that. Graphical stuff is very hard for me in Assembler. Maybe Interior-Modders like DivingDuck can help?

h.sie · 06-04-11, 03:35 AM

Now I need some suggestions for:

1) Some random Motivation messages like "be more aggressive".

2) Some random "ear-candy" messages that suits to almost all situations.

Thanks!

If there are many ideas, it would be very easy to expand the random "ear-candy" messages to ,say, 16 instead of currrently 8.

Hitman · 06-04-11, 05:35 AM

Are the messages stored in an external file, or is there still a need to edit one own's SH3 text files to add them?

SquareSteelBar · 06-04-11, 05:46 AM

You have to edit en_menu.txt or de_menu.txt

It's no big deal - you only have to append h.sie's messages to the end of file...

Have a look into 'Supplement to V15F3 (JSGME).7z'...

h.sie · 06-04-11, 07:50 AM

yup, all messages will be in en_menu.txt, so that everybody can change them to fit personal taste.

Kaleun Cook · 06-04-11, 08:31 AM

edit: nvm.

06-02-11, 02:53 PM	#1397
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@LGN1: Ok, my fault - inexact explaination. Lets assume you sunk 20000t and send a status report. For that you get a congratulation once. Now lets assume you send a second status report but didn't sink any ship in the meantime. The fix prevents from a second congratulation for the same tonnage (the next step for a new congratulation is 30000t). If now hull integrity, diesel and torpedoes are okay, a randomly chosen ear-candy message will be sent. h.sie __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie Last edited by h.sie; 06-02-11 at 03:11 PM.

06-02-11, 06:39 PM	#1398
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@LGN1: The algorithm for BDU responses to status report is as follows: If ((Hull Integrity < 50%) OR (Fuel < 33%) OR (Torpedoes <= 4)) THEN with a chance of 50% a "Return to base" - Message is sent. Otherwise: If (Tonnage sunk < 0) THEN: with a chance of 75%: a warning ("sink no neutrals") is sent. with a chance of 25%: one of 8 random ear-candy messages is sent If (Tonnage sunk = 0) THEN: with a chance of 50%: one of 4 random motivation messages (e.g. be more aggressive) is sent with a chance of 50%: one of 8 random ear-candy messages is sent If ((Tonnage sunk > 0) AND No_Congratulation_so_far) THEN: with a chance of 75%: a congratulation according to tonnage is sent with a chance of 25%: one of 8 random ear-candy messages is sent ELSE: one of 8 random ear-candy messages is sent __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie Last edited by h.sie; 06-03-11 at 03:11 AM.

06-03-11, 03:08 AM	#1400
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@LGN1: Thanks. I forgot about that point. I cannot differ between a Type XXI and a XXIII from code perspective in an easy way, since the XXIII is a XXI from code view, so I think I use the test for torpedoes only for types VII and IX (which are the most important ones). __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

06-03-11, 03:28 AM	#1401
Aces Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 211 Uploads: 0	Hi mate, Yes, thank you, for some reason better known to its self it worked when I tried it again with v15f and, although I'll probably never get to experience many of the new features as I don't actually play the game, the mod is excellent!. Kind regards Aces __________________ Gamefront: http://tinyurl.com/bpbaeyl Mediafire: http://tinyurl.com/bn2aoqt YouTube: http://tinyurl.com/clvy94f RSS Feed: http://tinyurl.com/cpbbqv9 Blog: http://tinyurl.com/cv44x82

06-03-11, 09:30 AM	#1402
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	I (hopefully) had a good idea: To program a certain chance (5% to 10%?) that a status report coudn't be received (completely) by the BDU. That would cause the BDU to response with "Transmission error, please repeat last status report!" or similar. Arguments pro/contra this idea? __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

06-02-11, 01:19 PM	#1396
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Hi h.sie, sounds great I will look whether I can find some additional messages. There is just one thing I don't understand. It is the statement: 'If none of the above conditions is true: You get one of 8 random BDU-responses.' I think one of the conditions must be true. Either I have sunk something or I haven't sunk anything or I sunk something neutral. What else could be So, my question is: If I have sunk an enemy ship and my fuel and damage is fine, do I always get congratulations from the BDU? I think this would be quite annoying because getting congratulations more than once for the same thing would be boring. Anyway, I think this is great work that allows player to mod a more variable radio traffic! Thanks a lot! Cheers, LGN1

06-02-11, 11:52 PM	#1399
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Excellent, h.sie! Just one thing I noticed: the 'return home' message because of torpedoes might be problematic for the type II and XXIII which have only a few torpedoes. Cheers, LGN1

06-03-11, 04:49 PM	#1404
Wolfstriked Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 756 Downloads: 237 Uploads: 0	H.sie,any chance to make the view instantly move when you move to new view.What I mean is that right now say you Rclick into the command room and now have to move cursor around to find a spot that doesn't highlight/then press Lmouse and you now have control of the view.Seems backwards to me....when I click to look thru the binos I do not want to then have to click the Lmouse to move the view around....and then when I R,mouse out I have to then make sure I am not highlighting anything and then have to press Lmouse.

06-04-11, 03:08 AM	#1405
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@Wolfstriked: Sorry to say, but I wuldn't even know how to start modding that. Graphical stuff is very hard for me in Assembler. Maybe Interior-Modders like DivingDuck can help? __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

06-04-11, 03:35 AM	#1406
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	Now I need some suggestions for: 1) Some random Motivation messages like "be more aggressive". 2) Some random "ear-candy" messages that suits to almost all situations. Thanks! If there are many ideas, it would be very easy to expand the random "ear-candy" messages to ,say, 16 instead of currrently 8. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie Last edited by h.sie; 06-04-11 at 04:20 AM.

06-04-11, 05:35 AM	#1407
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Are the messages stored in an external file, or is there still a need to edit one own's SH3 text files to add them? __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

06-04-11, 05:46 AM	#1408
SquareSteelBar Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: U-73 Posts: 1,638 Downloads: 632 Uploads: 0	You have to edit en_menu.txt or de_menu.txt It's no big deal - you only have to append h.sie's messages to the end of file... Have a look into 'Supplement to V15F3 (JSGME).7z'...

06-04-11, 07:50 AM	#1409
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	yup, all messages will be in en_menu.txt, so that everybody can change them to fit personal taste. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

06-04-11, 08:31 AM	#1410
Kaleun Cook Chief Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ger Posts: 313 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	edit: nvm. Last edited by Kaleun Cook; 06-04-11 at 11:38 AM.