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BIGREG · 05-08-12, 04:34 PM

Yes,bigboywooly other you ! GAP

Trevally. · 05-08-12, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGREG

Salutation
Wow! Trevally won one hundred ninety-two thousand dollars in one shot

I want to play as well

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Originally Posted by gap

I guess someone should pay the bill now!

cheque will be fine

THE_MASK · 05-08-12, 04:49 PM

When my uboot is near another uboot my message box displays what the other uboot is doing . Turning off diesel engines etc . What effect would making the players uboot a diffrent class then the AI uboot .
AI sub class 200
Player sub class 500 etc

gap · 05-08-12, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

dates are bad triggers for things like this.
There is a date bug that stops its use. [...] It can be done in the form of a hidden mission objective, setting a time limit and an update to despawn the tanker. (bit tricky that one) Easy to despawn - just have to find the correct trigger.

Triggers can be:

Pass mission
Fail mission
Enter area
Enter area for set time
Enter area for set time and stop timmer if area is left.

Okay so:

- spawning trigger could be passing an hidden mission having its objective set to "enter a certain area (in our route, not too far from the refuelling point), within a given date". If we fail to enter the area within the deadline, the unit doesn't spawn at all.

- despawning trigger could be failing an hidden mission whose obective is to "enter a certain area (on the other side of the world), within a given date". As we are sure we will never enter that area, we will be also sure that the unit will despawn on that exact date.

Am I correct?

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

If mission is to meet tanker and it fails - this can be the trigger

With this method, would we be promptly informed on the new appointment, in case the first milkcow gets sank?
...I mean: we don't want to waste our time looking for a vessel that is not there anymore, only because we are still within the time frame of the first "meet the tanker" mission...

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

Yes - I have so far used U-Boat and Tanker (only tested the tanker) but should work for any AI unit

Good!

I will tell you where to use tankers in MC.
Btw: I think MV Charlotte Schliemann was featured in SH4 UBoat Missions:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=135165&page=2

I should have this addon somewhere. If I get time I could try and see if I can import it for SH5, though the SH model doesn't resambles too much the real ship:

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

We can supply drop - so yes, this could be to drop the supplies at a stopped AI unit.
Rescue survivors option is there, but I have yet to find a way to make it work.

meeting another U-boat and dropping supplies for her is going to be another mission in our plot!

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

We can set base by date and fully refuel/re-arm at any port

So we cannot prevent in any way freindly ports from resupplying us?

pity. Historically, supply shortage was a key factor during Operation Monsun. Very often U-boats were forced to move from one base to another, just for resupplying.
I wanted our campaign to reflect this fact... I guess we can still set some obective to sail from one base to another, before starting the actual patrol (by assuming that the base we start from is short on supplies), but if when sailing from the first base we have allready a full load of fuel and torpedoes, the urgent change of base is not goig to make much sense...

TheDarkWraith · 05-08-12, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sober

When my uboot is near another uboot my message box displays what the other uboot is doing . Turning off diesel engines etc . What effect would making the players uboot a diffrent class then the AI uboot .
AI sub class 200
Player sub class 500 etc

Because it's a cmdr_Submarine type to the game this will always happen. It's one of the things I'm currently digging into in the .exe and .act files. I find it very annoying having the crew shout out and receive messages of AI subs

gap · 05-08-12, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGREG

Yes,bigboywooly other you ! GAP

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

cheque will be fine

To tell the truth I was thinking to pay in kind...

From now on I will be wiser whan asking questions on this forum

gap · 05-09-12, 08:14 AM

Trevally. · 05-11-12, 11:36 AM

Thanks Gap

I would also like to thank Uekel for his fix for the OHII convoys.
Please install this fix after OHII and any patch.

The fix will correct errors in the convoys where delays were not long enough. It will also fix the issue where there was no speed setting, resulting in convoys sailing at the fastest speed of the slowest ship

DOWNLOAD

volodya61 · 05-11-12, 11:47 AM

Hi Trevally!

Should I using this fix if I using MTNS - More Traffic, Nations and Ships and MTNS - OHII&HarbourAdditon_Fix by Uekel?

Trevally. · 05-11-12, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by volodya61

Hi Trevally!

Should I using this fix if I using MTNS - More Traffic, Nations and Ships and MTNS - OHII&HarbourAdditon_Fix by Uekel?

Yes - I think this should be ok.
Install after those

volodya61 · 05-11-12, 12:04 PM

Thanks Trevally!
Thanks Uekel!

gap · 05-11-12, 03:07 PM

Brazilian airbases and (in lesser misure) Brazilian Air Force, played a significant role as detterrent of U-boat warfare in South Atlantic during WWII.

This is a quite good website I have found, dedicated to Brazilian Air Force:
http://www.rudnei.cunha.nom.br/FAB/en/

I suggest you to start by reading this short article, within the same website:

History > At War > The Patrol Aviation

gap · 05-11-12, 04:31 PM

Due to poor naval and aerial defenses, Allied submarines were a common threat for monsoon boats. Especially weak points were the northern approaches to Penang, and the Malacca strait where, during the course of Operation Monsoon, 6 German U-boats suffered 2 failed attacks and 4 losses due to attacks by 2 British, 2 American, and 1 Dutch submarines.

The following links feature details (including maps) on the patrols of those submarines. Hopefully, in the next days I will be able to find information on other Allied submarines active in the area in the years 1943-44. Until then, I wish you a good reading:

HMS Tally-Ho (P 317)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3516.html

HNMS Zwaardvisch (P 322)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/2906.html

HMS Trenchant (P 331)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3525.html

Flounder (SS-251)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/2997.html

Besugo (SS-321)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3067.html

EDIT - some other Allied submarines active in Southeast Asia within the time frame of Monsun Canpaign:

HNMS K XIV (N 22)
http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/boats/boat_kxiv.htm

HNMS K XV (N 24)
http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/boats/boat_kxv.htm

HMS Trusty (N 45)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3504.html

HMS Trident (N 52)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3487.html

HNMS O 19 (N 54) [?]
http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/boats/boat_o19.htm

HNMS O 21 (P 21)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/2892.html
http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/boats/boat_o21.htm

HNMS O 23 (P 23)
http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/boats/boat_o23.htm

HNMS O 24 (P 24)
http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/boats/boat_o24.htm

HMS Stonehenge (P 232)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3449.html

HMS Trevally (P xxx)

from Wikipedia: "secret T-Class submarine. In his war diary, admiral Doenitz asserts that she was spotted only in two accasions during WWII: patroling the central Indian Ocean, and off Orkneys, while running after the lost U-21 of Kpt. Zober. After reading the memorial by Doenitz, Churchill denied the existence of such a vessel within Royal Navy. No other rumor leaked out about her after the war."

HMS Trespasser (P 312)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3513.html

HMS Truculent (P 315)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3514.html

HMS Templar (P 316)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3509.html

HMS Tantalus (P 318)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3517.html

HMS Tantivy (P 319)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3518.html

HMS Telemachus (P 321)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3519.html

HMS Terrapin (P 323)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3520.html

HMS Thorough (P 324)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3521.html

HMS Thule (P 325)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3510.html

HMS Tudor (P 326)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3515.html

HMS Tradewind (P 329)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3524.html

HMS Taurus (P 339)
http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3508.html

gap · 05-11-12, 04:35 PM

Very good
essay on Operation Monsun that all the concerned ones should definitely read from top to bottom:

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/Germ...ean/index.html

gap · 05-11-12, 05:01 PM

Okay,
by now you should have noticed it: today I am in the mood for historical research, and I am using this forum as bookmark for my favourite webpages

Someone should really stop me, before I get banned!

Anyway... this another good online reference on naval warfare in the Indian Ocean, again from naval-history.net:

http://www.naval-history.net/WW2Camp...dianOcean2.htm

by the way, this thread is:

05-08-12, 04:34 PM	#1201
BIGREG Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bretagne-FRANCE Posts: 813 Downloads: 155 Uploads: 0	Yes,bigboywooly other you ! GAP __________________ ~~~~BigReg~BigRegOne~~~~ "Better watch where you do not go, because where were going, we will know what it is when we get there, and anyway, it will never be only water." Proverbe Shadok

05-11-12, 11:36 AM	#1208
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	Thanks Gap I would also like to thank Uekel for his fix for the OHII convoys. Please install this fix after OHII and any patch. The fix will correct errors in the convoys where delays were not long enough. It will also fix the issue where there was no speed setting, resulting in convoys sailing at the fastest speed of the slowest ship DOWNLOAD __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

05-11-12, 11:47 AM	#1209
volodya61 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Rostov-on-Don, local time GMT+4 Posts: 3,300 Downloads: 374 Uploads: 0	Hi Trevally! Should I using this fix if I using MTNS - More Traffic, Nations and Ships and MTNS - OHII&HarbourAdditon_Fix by Uekel? __________________ . Where does human stupidity end? . *El sueño de la razón produce monstruos © - and for some people awakening will be cruel*

05-11-12, 12:04 PM	#1211
volodya61 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Rostov-on-Don, local time GMT+4 Posts: 3,300 Downloads: 374 Uploads: 0	Thanks Trevally! Thanks Uekel! __________________ . Where does human stupidity end? . *El sueño de la razón produce monstruos © - and for some people awakening will be cruel*

05-11-12, 04:31 PM	#1213
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	Due to poor naval and aerial defenses, Allied submarines were a common threat for monsoon boats. Especially weak points were the northern approaches to Penang, and the Malacca strait where, during the course of Operation Monsoon, 6 German U-boats suffered 2 failed attacks and 4 losses due to attacks by 2 British, 2 American, and 1 Dutch submarines. The following links feature details (including maps) on the patrols of those submarines. Hopefully, in the next days I will be able to find information on other Allied submarines active in the area in the years 1943-44. Until then, I wish you a good reading: HMS Tally-Ho (P 317) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3516.html HNMS Zwaardvisch (P 322) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/2906.html HMS Trenchant (P 331) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3525.html Flounder (SS-251) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/2997.html Besugo (SS-321) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3067.html EDIT - some other Allied submarines active in Southeast Asia within the time frame of Monsun Canpaign: HNMS K XIV (N 22) http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/boats/boat_kxiv.htm HNMS K XV (N 24) http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/boats/boat_kxv.htm HMS Trusty (N 45) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3504.html HMS Trident (N 52) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3487.html HNMS O 19 (N 54) [?] http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/boats/boat_o19.htm HNMS O 21 (P 21) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/2892.html http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/boats/boat_o21.htm HNMS O 23 (P 23) http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/boats/boat_o23.htm HNMS O 24 (P 24) http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/boats/boat_o24.htm HMS Stonehenge (P 232) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3449.html HMS Trevally (P xxx) from Wikipedia: "secret T-Class submarine. In his war diary, admiral Doenitz asserts that she was spotted only in two accasions during WWII: patroling the central Indian Ocean, and off Orkneys, while running after the lost U-21 of Kpt. Zober. After reading the memorial by Doenitz, Churchill denied the existence of such a vessel within Royal Navy. No other rumor leaked out about her after the war." HMS Trespasser (P 312) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3513.html HMS Truculent (P 315) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3514.html HMS Templar (P 316) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3509.html HMS Tantalus (P 318) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3517.html HMS Tantivy (P 319) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3518.html HMS Telemachus (P 321) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3519.html HMS Terrapin (P 323) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3520.html HMS Thorough (P 324) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3521.html HMS Thule (P 325) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3510.html HMS Tudor (P 326) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3515.html HMS Tradewind (P 329) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3524.html HMS Taurus (P 339) http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3508.html Last edited by gap; 05-11-12 at 07:52 PM.

05-08-12, 04:49 PM	#1203
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	When my uboot is near another uboot my message box displays what the other uboot is doing . Turning off diesel engines etc . What effect would making the players uboot a diffrent class then the AI uboot . AI sub class 200 Player sub class 500 etc

05-09-12, 08:14 AM	#1207
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	Allied anti-submarine defences April 43 / July 44 - Part III: West Africa, Azores and Gibraltar No. 48 Squadron RAF: http://www.historyofwar.org/air/units/RAF/48_wwII.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._48_Squadron_RAF No. 95 Squadron RAF: http://www.historyofwar.org/air/units/RAF/95_wwII.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._95_Squadron_RAF No. 200 Squadron RAF: http://www.historyofwar.org/air/units/RAF/200_wwII.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._200_Squadron_RAF No. 202 Squadron RAF: http://www.historyofwar.org/air/units/RAF/202_wwII.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._202_Squadron_RAF No. 204 Squadron RAF: http://www.historyofwar.org/air/units/RAF/204_wwII.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._204_Squadron_RAF No. 206 Squadron RAF: http://www.historyofwar.org/air/units/RAF/206_wwII.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._206_Squadron_RAF No. 220 Squadron RAF: http://www.historyofwar.org/air/units/RAF/220_wwII.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._220_Squadron_RAF No. 233 Squadron RAF: http://www.historyofwar.org/air/units/RAF/233_wwII.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._233_Squadron_RAF No. 270 Squadron RAF: http://www.historyofwar.org/air/units/RAF/270_wwII.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._270_Squadron_RAF No. 490 Squadron RNZAF: http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-WH2-2RAF-c2.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._490_Squadron_RNZAF I have updated the Mons_Camp_Data spreadsheet with data collected from the above mentioned webpages: http://www.mediafire.com/?eh0u6kgbize9qjt I couldn't find accurate information on USAAF bases and squadrons, though their airplanes were a common presence in South Atlantic during late war. For sure they had many carriers there, and yankee aircraft operated as well from Lagens Airfield, Azores (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lajes_Field#World_War_II) and Roberts Airfield, Liberia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberts...tional_Airport). EDIT here is the upadted airbases map:

05-11-12, 03:07 PM	#1212
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	Brazilian airbases and (in lesser misure) Brazilian Air Force, played a significant role as detterrent of U-boat warfare in South Atlantic during WWII. This is a quite good website I have found, dedicated to Brazilian Air Force: http://www.rudnei.cunha.nom.br/FAB/en/ I suggest you to start by reading this short article, within the same website: History > At War > The Patrol Aviation

05-11-12, 04:35 PM	#1214
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	Very good essay on Operation Monsun that all the concerned ones should definitely read from top to bottom: http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/Germ...ean/index.html

05-11-12, 05:01 PM	#1215
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	Okay, by now you should have noticed it: today I am in the mood for historical research, and I am using this forum as bookmark for my favourite webpages Someone should really stop me, before I get banned! Anyway... this another good online reference on naval warfare in the Indian Ocean, again from naval-history.net: http://www.naval-history.net/WW2Camp...dianOcean2.htm by the way, this thread is: