[REL] Open Horizons II (old thread)

[THE_MASK]

Night shift atm , but next week i can do a bit .

[Sbygneus]

Originally Posted by Zedi

No polish ship was sailing in ON 202. That convoy was the main target for Operation Leuthen, a mission I (re)created in Open Horizons. Here is the complete list af every ship from ON 202 http://www.convoyweb.org.uk/on/index.html From the left side menu choose ON 202 and see the details.

Hagues record is like a Bible for me, spent days in checking the convoys and Im pretty sure there was not much polish ships.. I remember seeing only once or twice polish ships and even those were joining the convoy for a short period of time. Mainly the ships from other nations than UK, CA and US were Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Greece and a LOT from Panama.

Actually Panama had an impressive merchants fleet that helped in carry supply to UK. Not sure if these ships were under the Panama government orders or only loaned ships, same as the greek ships where the greeks made huge fortunes by loaning their merchant fleets to the allied forces.. remember Onasis.

War is not only about killing and atrocities, but also a HUGE opportunity to exploit the pain and sufferings and get rich. Is why war is the most profitable business ever.

Ok maybe it wasnt ON202. ON202 was probably escorted by HMCS Saint Croix. Or saomething like that. When St. Croix was torpedoed by Bahr's U305, their survivors were taken onboard HMS Itchen which in turn was torpedoed and the only survivor (from original St.Croix crew) was found by Polish merchant VISTULA. So it could be another convoy indeed sorry.

[stoianm]

Originally Posted by sober

Night shift atm , but next week i can do a bit .

Hey mate ... a little adivice:

Even if you are a bloke banana bender right from the hearth of Brisvegas you still need some rest: take a coldie, relax... a nice sheila also..and if you have time do some mods

[Zedi]

Originally Posted by stoianm

...
now zedi will step here and he will send us back to topic

Right. Or at least use a language we can understand.

[Trevally.]

Setting off in the new campaign (OD).









Good work on the harbours Zedi

[Zedi]

Never had time to test this by myself, seems like I need to move the other boat a bit to the right. Is this Lorient or Brest?

[Trevally.]

It was La Pallice

[tonschk]

Hello Trevally, please can you tell me how is possible to see the temperature of the video card at the top left of the monitor ?, thank you

[Trevally.]

I followed the tutorial from Stoianm's vid thread

This one http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...0&postcount=37

[tonschk]

Amazing , Thank you very much , hot temperatures are not healthy for the video card

[Zedi]

Any help on debugging this error from ME when I try to simulate traffic is more than appreciate it.


Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

************** Exception Text **************
System.AccessViolationException: Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt.
at CMissionEngine.Init(CMissionEngine* , CMission* , UInt32 )
at CEditorView.Simulation_Play(CEditorView* )
at CMissionTerrain.HandleSimToolbarEvents(CMissionTer rain* , Void* pClickedObjName)
at MisTerrViewCtrl.MisTerrViewCtrlControl.OnSimToolba rClick(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at MissionEditor2.MissionEditorForm.OnSimToolbarClick (Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Obje ct key, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripButton.OnClick(Event Args e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(Eve ntArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(M ouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventIntera ctive(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(Event Args e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEven tArgs mea)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Mes sage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.O nMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.W ndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

[Stormfly]

smoke on horizon is better than smoke on your chips
...did you put to much vessels in Kiel

[Zedi]

Permission granted by thfeu58 to use his Terrain_harbour_flags_Mod_v1_2_1. Thank You sir!

Took me almost a day to merge the two mods, but worth the try, now we have a lot of new harbors and working Suez and Panama channel. With the work thfeu58 did on the common.mis, we can even insert a Pacific campaign :P

Rongel, if I send you my new roster, do you have time to work out the flag.dat?

[gap]

Originally Posted by Antar

You're wrong. This in no reason to split Polish to "Polish" and "Free Polish". As a our colleague told, there are no occupied Poland territory like Vichy's France or Quisling's Norvay.

Germany and the Soviet Union invaded, on September 1 and 17 respectively, their respective sides of Poland, dividing the country between them. The Soviet Union denied the idea of Polish behaviour in any shape, the Polish state was to be abolished once and for all, and the Polish territory completely annexed and incorporated by the two aggressors (the Third Reich and the USSR).

As you see the idea of "collaborated Polish units" is the capital crime for all polish players.

Sorry Antar,
I'm not 100% sure to understand your point.

what do you mean by saying: This in no reason to split Polish to "Polish" and "Free Polish"

should we remove the "Poland" entry in cfg file, the "FreePoland" one or both of them?

Anyway let's doing things clear. By saying Poland and FreePoland we are meaning respectively: "German occupied Poland" and "Polish government in exile".

Although during Nazi and Soviet occupation Poland stopped being a national entity, we cannot remove the first entry (Poland), because it is used for assigning blue/red color to Polish territory into the strategic map (depending on its diplomatic state with Axis/Allied at various steps of the war). See the explainations by Zedi on this topic.
What can be done, I think, is not to assign to "Nazi ruled Poland" any shipping traffic, in order to spare Polish players to witness the "capital crime" of "(Nazi) collaborated Polish units" . If this is what you were complaining you should address your request directly to Zedi, possibly by providing him with historical evidence that such a units never existed.
as for FreePoland or "PolandInExile" entry, it is a new nation that we should add to defside.cfg file to represent the activity of Polish in exile Navy. Obviously it doesn't correspond to any territory on the map. I think there are plenty of historical proves about the involvment of Polish navy (and army) alongside Allied (especially UK) forces, so I presume this is something we have not to discuss here.

[gap]

Originally Posted by Zedi

Permission granted by thfeu58 to use his Terrain_harbour_flags_Mod_v1_2_1. Thank You sir!

Took me almost a day to merge the two mods, but worth the try, now we have a lot of new harbors and working Suez and Panama channel. With the work thfeu58 did on the common.mis, we can even insert a Pacific campaign :P

Rongel, if I send you my new roster, do you have time to work out the flag.dat?

Thank you Zedi and thfeu58!

that was the mod that I was urging you to have a look at some posts ago. Very well done!

P.S. I've almost finished with the revision of stock nations in defside.cfg file (sorry for the delay, but yesterday I couldn't work on it). They will be ready in a matter of a couple of hours or lesser. Once finished I'll focus on the newly added nations.