My mods compilation

[gap]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Nice work!
Will test that.
You said only for VII and VIIC types... VIIA too?

No, only VIIC's and VIIC41's (which our sources refer to directly). We will work on other types once we manage to understand what is going on with bell ratios, rpm's and speeds

P.S: from now on, can you report the results of your tests in terms of rpm and speed?

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by gap

P.S: from now on, can you report the results of your tests in terms of rpm and speed?

Yes, but i'm only using what i see with UI...dials aren't that precise

[gap]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Yes, but i'm only using what i see with UI...dials aren't that precise

More or less

[Fifi]

Ok, tested with zero wind in a VIIC (TDW sub exhaust single mission).
Your mod on top of Volodya's, so only VIIC concerned...

DIESEL

Forward:
- Slow 6 Knot 1800 RPM
- One third 9.8 Knot 2800 RPM
- Standard 11.9 Knot 3400 RPM
- Full 16.2 Knot 4600 RPM
- Flank 17.3 Knot 4900 RPM

Backward:
- Back Slow 7 Knot 2000 RPM
- Back Standard 8.2 Knot 2300 RPM
- Back Full 10 Knot 2800 RPM
- Back emergency 13 Knot 4200 RPM

ELECTRIC

Forward:
- Slow 1.5 Knot 750 RPM
- One third 3 Knot 1250 RPM
- Standard 4.2 Knot 1700 RPM
- Full 6.5 Knot 2500 RPM
- Flank 7.8 Knot 2900 RPM

Backward:
- Back Slow 1.7 Knot 800 RPM
- Back Standard 3.2 Knot 1300 RPM
- Back Full 4.9 Knot 1800 RPM
- Back emergency 6 Knot 2700 RPM

Back slow still slightly faster than forward...

[gap]

Fifi, I will comment your report tomorrow, but at first sight I would say that your results vaguely resemble the espected outputs

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by gap

Fifi, I will comment your report tomorrow, but at first sight I would say that your results vaguely resemble the espected outputs

He should do the same test but with the Electric engine ratios patch disabled and compare results

[gap]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

He should do the same test but with the Electric engine ratios patch disabled and compare results

Yes, I agree. Another good test would be halving or doubling bell ratios, engine rpm and max speed, and seeing if/how they affect actual engine outputs

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by gap

Fifi, I will comment your report tomorrow, but at first sight I would say that your results vaguely resemble the espected outputs

Yes, not bad at all IMO.
Difference between electric slow forward, and electric slow backward is quite negligible...

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

He should do the same test but with the Electric engine ratios patch disabled and compare results

Will do

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Yes, not bad at all IMO.
Difference between electric slow forward, and electric slow backward is quite negligible...

Will do

This will verify the patch is working correctly (which I don't doubt but it's nice to have a secondary source verifying)

[Fifi]

Same test as above but all TDW electric patches deactivated

DIESEL: same results as above of course

ELECTRIC:

Forward:
- Slow 2.8 Knot 1150 RPM
- One third 4.5 Knot 1800 RPM
- Standard 5.5 Knot 2100 RPM
- Full 7.8 Knot 2900 RPM
- Flank 8 Knot 3000 RPM

Backward:
- Back Slow 3.3 Knot 1300 RPM
- Back Standard 4 Knot 1500 RPM
- Back Full 4.8 Knot 1850 RPM
- Back emergency 6 Knot 2700 RPM

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Same test as above but all TDW electric patches deactivated

DIESEL: same results as above of course

ELECTRIC:

You just proved my patch is working correctly

[gap]

Originally Posted by Fifi

ELECTRIC:

Forward:
- Slow 2.8 Knot 1150 RPM
- One third 4.5 Knot 1800 RPM
- Standard 5.5 Knot 2100 RPM
- Full 7.8 Knot 2900 RPM
- Flank 8 Knot 3000 RPM

Backward:
- Back Slow 3.3 Knot 1300 RPM
- Back Standard 4 Knot 1500 RPM
- Back Full 4.8 Knot 1850 RPM
- Back emergency 6 Knot 2700 RPM

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

You just proved my patch is working correctly

Yep, there's a clear difference

[Fifi]

So now, we need same kind of values for VIIA and B...or do we copy the VIIC for others too?

[gap]

Originally Posted by Fifi

So now, we need same kind of values for VIIA and B...or do we copy the VIIC for others too?

For speed order ratios, I think we can keep the same as the VIIC. But we need to finetune them first as there are some speed bells that don't add up yet.

As for engine rpm and max speed sim settings, types VIIA and VIIB will need for their own settings, which we will adapt from uboat.net's values

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

For speed order ratios, I think we can keep the same as the VIIC. But we need to finetune them first as there are some speed bells that don't add up yet.

As for engine rpm and max speed sim settings, types VIIA and VIIB will need for their own settings, which we will adapt from uboat.net's values

As I can see, you don't change anything in my order ratios settings (based on your data) in the .cfg files.. and all the order ratios are the same for all the subs btw.. you just slightly changed max speed values in the .sim files and set eng_rpm as was in stock..

@ Fifi

If you want better and clear results of your tests - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=313