Sunrise and Sunsets - Page 2

cncllc · 03-26-07, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderF

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Originally Posted by Mud

Looks ok , even on my ol' 6600

Mud

Yeah, I totally don't get that at all.

My sun looks like the one in this guy's screenshot.

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Originally Posted by cncllc

Yes! Bloom effect, I couldn't remember what it was called in SHIII. I'm running afew mods (ultimate sound, green lamp button mod) but the problem was there from the start. I manually edited the config for V-sync on and have reset all ATI Catalyst settings to their default - application controlled. As far as the .exe, I have a retail version from Gamestop patched to V1.1 .

Are you running ATI or Nvidia?

Seems more like the issue would be the ATI vs nVidia instead of the copy protection, though. I run a pretty 'plain Jane' system. I have Nero installed, but none of the virtual disk stuff it has, and no other imaging or CD copying stuff installed. (I'm also a software tech professionally, so run a VERY clean system - registry always A-OK, always defraged, no viruses or spyware or anything, etc) Never run into a copy protection problem with any game before.

As you seem to have guessed (or found from another post), my system is ATI-based. Radeon X1950 Pro.

I also turned on the v-sync, though - it'd be unusual for that to be related, but...had you seen this BEFORE changing that setting? Otherwise, I'm completely running stock Sh4 + patch, and that's it. No other changes.

Well the extreme blurry effect I experienced seemed to be a driver issue - so after 2 reloads of SH4 and 2 reloads of Cat 7.2 drivers I'm back in business.....But still not bloom effect

It seems we have a reverse situation in SH4 - in SHIII Nvidia users couldn't see the bloom effect but ATI was fine. As far as the V-sync question, I had played for awhile before changing the v-sync setting - so no, for me bloom was never there.

As far as the copy protection, you never really know what issues it can cause. I never would have guessed that missing eyes had anything to do with it until I read the Devs post. I run a pretty lean system as well, outside of Nero there is nothing that I can think of that would cause the protection scheme to question my copy of SH4 at all.

At this point it seems to be ATI specific, but it would be nice to have afew more confirmation of the effect not working or atleast 1 shot of an ATI with the bloom. Guess only time will tell.

anthonye · 03-26-07, 01:12 PM

Same here as others, no glare, just the sun showing

ATI x1950pro

Ati drivers 7.2 v/sync off

cncllc · 03-26-07, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Spaxspore

You want something liek this... dont you??

on a 8800gtx

Well it would be nice! haha. I'll start my upgrades when its closer to the end of the year and SOW: Battle of Britian is ready to hit the shelves.

OneTinSoldier · 03-26-07, 01:14 PM

For you guys not getting the excellent sunrise/sunsets... do you have 'Enviromental Effects' checked?

Does anyone get the beautiful effects WITHOUT having EE checked?

Avatar · 03-26-07, 01:15 PM

I have the 6800 GeForce and my frame drops a little in port but is excellent at sea. But I have to run it on medium settings.

If I use the button where you can see your submarine while submerged, the frame rate drops real bad. This is an annoyance.
I guess I know what my next big purchase will be.

How do you check the actual frame rate?

Avatar · 03-26-07, 01:16 PM

The one above your post. No, I dont have that. I dont run with environmental effects on, cuz I have the GeForce 6800.
I may try it at sunset and see if this happens.

Mud · 03-26-07, 01:17 PM

My worst fear if AA works in the next patch the Nvidia cards have the same problem as in SH3 , that means no bloom effect with AA enabled.
I could be wrong though.

Mud

Avatar · 03-26-07, 01:18 PM

Mud, what graphics settings are you running?

Mud · 03-26-07, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatar

Mud, what graphics settings are you running?

Edit: and look like this, it even hurts my eyes lol
Here you are mate , these are my settings.

Mud

cncllc · 03-26-07, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OneTinSoldier

For you guys not getting the excellent sunrise/sunsets... do you have 'Enviromental Effects' checked?

Does anyone get the beautiful effects WITHOUT having EE checked?

Yep, everything is on and set to high. I'm looking throught the configs now to double check.

cncllc · 03-26-07, 01:34 PM

Can someone with an Nvidia check my GFXSettings against theirs:

[Current]
DepthBufferEffects=1
Filters=1
Glare=1
UnderwaterDispMap=1
LightShafts=1
3DShipWakes=1
DetailedWaveRipples=1
UnitNormalMaps=1
ShipCausticsEffects=1
Ship3DDamage=2
CharacterDetail=1
ParticlesDetail=10
TerrainObjectsDensity=10
TerrainObjectsLODSize=10
GammaCorrection=52

Thanks.

Mud · 03-26-07, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cncllc

Can someone with an Nvidia check my GFXSettings against theirs:

[Current]
DepthBufferEffects=1
Filters=1
Glare=1
UnderwaterDispMap=1
LightShafts=1
3DShipWakes=1
DetailedWaveRipples=1
UnitNormalMaps=1
ShipCausticsEffects=1
Ship3DDamage=2
CharacterDetail=1
ParticlesDetail=10
TerrainObjectsDensity=10
TerrainObjectsLODSize=10
GammaCorrection=52

Thanks.

[Current]
DepthBufferEffects=0
Filters=1
Glare=1
UnderwaterDispMap=1
LightShafts=0
3DShipWakes=1
DetailedWaveRipples=1
UnitNormalMaps=1
ShipCausticsEffects=0
Ship3DDamage=2
CharacterDetail=1
ParticlesDetail=10
TerrainObjectsDensity=10
TerrainObjectsLODSize=10
GammaCorrection=53

Mud

Avatar · 03-26-07, 01:44 PM

Thanks man, I'm going to try those and see if I cant get better graphics.

Spaxspore · 03-26-07, 01:57 PM

Here is my settings

OneTinSoldier · 03-26-07, 02:07 PM

You can get a Frame Rate display at the top center with 'Ctrl+F8'.

03-26-07, 01:14 PM	#19
OneTinSoldier Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver, CO USA Posts: 382 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	For you guys not getting the excellent sunrise/sunsets... do you have 'Enviromental Effects' checked? Does anyone get the beautiful effects WITHOUT having EE checked? __________________ "Variable this is EasyRhino, do you copy? Over." Loud and clear EasyRhino. "Do we have a gig? Over." That's a Roger, we have a gig. Target is painted, start the music. "Roger that Variable. Into attack. Pickling target. Target is acquired and lit. LGB comin' down!" EasyRhino, circular error probability zero. Impact with High Order Detonation. Thank You, have a nice day.

03-26-07, 01:17 PM	#22
Mud Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 541 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	My worst fear if AA works in the next patch the Nvidia cards have the same problem as in SH3 , that means no bloom effect with AA enabled. I could be wrong though. Mud __________________

03-26-07, 01:57 PM	#29
Spaxspore Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 399 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Here is my settings __________________ Behold, the Glory of the Sh4 engine..... Morning strole off Tokyo Bay...

03-26-07, 02:07 PM	#30
OneTinSoldier Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver, CO USA Posts: 382 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	You can get a Frame Rate display at the top center with 'Ctrl+F8'. __________________ "Variable this is EasyRhino, do you copy? Over." Loud and clear EasyRhino. "Do we have a gig? Over." That's a Roger, we have a gig. Target is painted, start the music. "Roger that Variable. Into attack. Pickling target. Target is acquired and lit. LGB comin' down!" EasyRhino, circular error probability zero. Impact with High Order Detonation. Thank You, have a nice day.

03-26-07, 01:12 PM	#17
anthonye Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Same here as others, no glare, just the sun showing ATI x1950pro Ati drivers 7.2 v/sync off

03-26-07, 01:15 PM	#20
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I have the 6800 GeForce and my frame drops a little in port but is excellent at sea. But I have to run it on medium settings. If I use the button where you can see your submarine while submerged, the frame rate drops real bad. This is an annoyance. I guess I know what my next big purchase will be. How do you check the actual frame rate?

03-26-07, 01:16 PM	#21
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	The one above your post. No, I dont have that. I dont run with environmental effects on, cuz I have the GeForce 6800. I may try it at sunset and see if this happens.

03-26-07, 01:18 PM	#23
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Mud, what graphics settings are you running?

03-26-07, 01:34 PM	#26
cncllc Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Can someone with an Nvidia check my GFXSettings against theirs: [Current] DepthBufferEffects=1 Filters=1 Glare=1 UnderwaterDispMap=1 LightShafts=1 3DShipWakes=1 DetailedWaveRipples=1 UnitNormalMaps=1 ShipCausticsEffects=1 Ship3DDamage=2 CharacterDetail=1 ParticlesDetail=10 TerrainObjectsDensity=10 TerrainObjectsLODSize=10 GammaCorrection=52 Thanks.

03-26-07, 01:44 PM	#28
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Thanks man, I'm going to try those and see if I cant get better graphics.