Gun Control thread (merged many)

[Oberon]

Aaaah, Bubblehead, I wondered when you'd return. Yubba has missed you.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

While not surprising given the current political environment of:
a.) Never let a good crisis go to waste
b.) Emotion > Logic and reasoning.

A Citation is always needed in these matters.

No reputable link, and your just talking out yer ass like Jim Carrey.

Heard it on CNN AND FOX and here you go, from one of the State Media Branches, NPR via The White House.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=177040392

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

b.) Emotion > Logic and reasoning.

According to Nietzsche in his book ''beyond good and evil'' the notion of good and bad had to be replaced by the notion of ''values''.

Maybe the values of those who experienced a terrible tragedy like this simply switched from total freedom to a certain type of regulation (particularly for those who are mentally unstable).

Just sayin...

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Apparently the mother of a Newtown, CT shooting victim will deliver the President's Weekly radio address for him.This is inappropriate and disgusting as they are exploiting this woman's grief for political purposes as they know they do not have legal or moral ground to stand on in their efforts to destroy the second amendment! Instead, they push emotion based propaganda hoping it will garner support based on the irrational emotional feelings for this woman.Of course the media will not call Obama out for this, they never do.

I think she kind of has a vested interest in gun control. Right Or wrong, the parents of newtown (or at least some) are campaigning for Obama's proposed gun bills. Just because they had a tragedy happen does not mean they do not get to participate in our political process. Should I say the same thing to parents of dead soldiers when they ask for us to support the troops? HECK NO! parents shouldn't bury their kids no matter how they passed on...and I can understand anybody who puts the word out there after any kind of tragedy.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

HECK NO!

BE CAREFUL. THE CAPSLOCK POLICE ARE ON PATROL.

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

BE CAREFUL. THE CAPSLOCK POLICE ARE ON PATROL.

HALT LOWERCASE SCUM, YOU'VE VIOLATED THE LAW!!!

HunterICX

[Hottentot]

WHO INVOKES THE SACRED NAME OF OUR HALLOWED CAPSLOCK IN THIS UNWORTHY THREAD?! SOMEONE START BEATING THE HERETICS WITH BIG STICKS WHILE I GET THE PRETZELS!!

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Apparently the mother of a Newtown, CT shooting victim will deliver the President's Weekly radio address for him.This is inappropriate and disgusting as they are exploiting this woman's grief for political purposes as they know they do not have legal or moral ground to stand on in their efforts to destroy the second amendment! Instead, they push emotion based propaganda hoping it will garner support based on the irrational emotional feelings for this woman.Of course the media will not call Obama out for this, they never do.

Not the first time and wont be the last. Its all too easy to shut down any line of argument, reasoning or even questioning with an emotional response such as "think of those who have died" Yep, if all else fails goes for the heart strings. Its nothing new.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Not the first time and wont be the last. Its all too easy to shut down any line of argument, reasoning or even questioning with an emotional response such as "think of those who have died" Yep, if all else fails goes for the heart strings. Its nothing new.

I know it is nothing new but more people call it out, perhaps over time, it won't be such an effective tactic. Appealing to emotions to influence important decisions, especially the second amendment RIGHTS guaranteed by the constitution, instead of a legitimate debate on the second amendment(even though it is pretty clear) is appealing to the lowest of the low. People should be offended, because it's manipulative, cynical, and WRONG.

This is one reason I despise the left, they never try to argue facts or the a logical, rational basis, they go on emotion, mob rule etc This is beneath me as a human and beneath everyone else.Unfortunately, some people are just stupid and do not realize this.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I know it is nothing new but more people call it out, perhaps over time, it won't be such an effective tactic. Appealing to emotions to influence important decisions, especially the second amendment RIGHTS guaranteed by the constitution, instead of a legitimate debate on the second amendment(even though it is pretty clear) is appealing to the lowest of the low. People should be offended, because it's manipulative, cynical, and WRONG.

Calling it out is one thing. Becoming overly emotional yourself and making yourself look more a fool than they do is another thing entirely.

This is one reason I despise the left, they never try to argue facts or the a logical, rational basis, they go on emotion, mob rule etc This is beneath me as a human and beneath everyone else.Unfortunately, some people are just stupid and do not realize this.

You're about to get laughed at some more, for the simple reason that you've just described yourself again. Can you show a single time when you have argued facts on a logical, rational basis in these forums. You say it's beneath you, yet you use emotional tactics and name-calling practically every time you post. I've tried time and again to show you the error of your ways, but you still don't get it.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

This is one reason I despise the left, they never try to argue facts or the a logical, rational basis,

This from a paragon of rational debate...

[razark]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

[T]he left... never try to argue facts or the a logical, rational basis...

Still waiting on an answer:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...9&postcount=48

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Unfortunately, some people are just stupid and do not realize this.

Hehehehehehehe. You said it, bubs.

Still waiting on an answer:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...9&postcount=48

Don't be cruel Razark, you know full well where his topic on Obamas secret army of nazi dentists is, you are just rubbing it in to make bubbles look like ....bubbles

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

This is one reason I despise the left, they never try to argue facts or the a logical, rational basis, they go on emotion, mob rule etc This is beneath me as a human and beneath everyone else.Unfortunately, some people are just stupid and do not realize this.

hmm, Im pretty satistfied that its an indervidual thing rather than a partisan thing, Ive seen people from both sides do what you describe in similar quantities.

[Bubblehead1980]

The attempt to infringe upon our Second Amendment RIGHTS was voted down today in the US Senate.This is a clear victory in the ongoing battle to preserve what is left of our Republic.The war will remain "hot" as long as Dear Leader is President but this was a great day for liberty as it triumphed over reactionary emotional politics.Sadly, only ten or so individuals were the deciding factor.I will admit, it was great watching obama look like a petulant child at his post vote conference and sad watching grieving families be exploited for political purposes for I fear that in their grief, they realize not what they do.Stay informed, Stay involved, Stay vigilant.