Gun Control thread (merged many)

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

The thread that is currently talking about avalanches.

Well, better the avalanche that Jim just started take place there then, surely?

[Jimbuna]

Copied over to suggested thread.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35236992

I suspect this may become his legacy. I'm not an American citizen but I really don't perceive this as an attack on the constitutional right to bear arms.

It's certainly going to create a legacy, along with the ACA. How long that legacy will last if a Republican president comes into office is questionable but with the way things are going at the moment that doesn't look incredibly likely unless something drastic changes in the next year.

It's certainly a softer approach than he could have taken, but I think if he had have gone down a harder route then he would have had a lot of trouble. As it is, I expect this decision will be challenged in every court available.

[Jimbuna]

On the Democratic side, Hillary has already stated she would not overwrite anything should she become the next POTUS but the opposite has been said by Trump and another Republican candidate (the name of whom currently escapes me).

EDIT: Senator Ted Cruz

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

On the Democratic side, Hillary has already stated she would not overwrite anything should she become the next POTUS but the opposite has been said by Trump and another Republican candidate (the name of whom currently escapes me).

EDIT: Senator Ted Cruz

Speaking of Cruz:



This was his fundraising campaign back in October.

[mapuc]

As I have stated before this is an all American domestic issue and should be solved by them self

I only hope for the innocent there will come some law or laws which both side can agree on.

Markus

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by mapuc

As I have stated before this is an all American domestic issue and should be solved by them self

I only hope for the innocent there will come some law or laws which both side can agree on.

Markus

not likely to happen anytime soon as election season is right around the corner. Common sense is dead. Fear and polarizing party politics rule the day.

[GT182]

Let's hope Hillary the Liar doesn't get elected. If she does, it will be a continuation of the crap Obama has pulled on us. And both of them should be in prison for what happened in Benghazi.

[Buddahaid]

Seriously, every politician should be in prison. They've all pulled crap to be where they are and none of them have clean hands.

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by GT182

Let's hope Hillary the Liar doesn't get elected. If she does, it will be a continuation of the crap Obama has pulled on us. And both of them should be in prison for what happened in Benghazi.

Maybe Hillary's daughter should be the next Libyan ambassador.

Originally Posted by GT182

Let's hope Hillary the Liar doesn't get elected. If she does, it will be a continuation of the crap Obama has pulled on us. And both of them should be in prison for what happened in Benghazi.

If you don't want a liar to be elected... you want no one to be elected.
You can't possibly imply that Hillary is any different then the others?

[U505995]

Originally Posted by GT182

Let's hope Hillary the Liar doesn't get elected. If she does, it will be a continuation of the crap Obama has pulled on us. And both of them should be in prison for what happened in Benghazi.

I also hope that Hillary doesn't make it to the oval office, but in all likelihood there is a pretty good chance. I don't think there will be another republican president in a very long time unfortunately. My problem with gun control is that the far left wants to go too far and totally ban semi automatic rifles and handguns and the far right wants to do too little when it comes to restrictions. If we look at the class three weapons license which allows a person to own fully automatic firearms in the US. It requires a person to pay 1,000 dollars, get fingerprinted by the fbi, and have the sheriff of the township stop by your house to be sure you have a safe secure place to store such weapons. There has not been a single incidence where a person with a class 3 has used their firearms for ill intent. If we enacted something similar but not as extreme for AR type weapons and semi auto handguns I believe it could significantly reduce the amount of incidences. For example if someone wants a handgun or an AR they would go through a training course, background check, a possible evaluation, then that person would get his or her license to purchase and possess that type of firearm. But once again this would be too little for the democrats and too much draconian government tyranny for the republicans.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35236992

I suspect this may become his legacy. I'm not an American citizen but I really don't perceive this as an attack on the constitutional right to bear arms.

Firstly, the second amendment is pretty clear for those of us who can read, "the right to bear arms shall not be infringed". Secondly, President Obama overstepped his authority. Under our constitution, the executive branch does not make law, the legislative branch does.

As an anecdote, having lived in different states where gun laws were either lax or restrictive, I find I feel safer (to the point I don't feel the need to always carry a gun) in states with less restrictive ownership/carry laws.

[August]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

On the Democratic side, Hillary has already stated she would not overwrite anything should she become the next POTUS but the opposite has been said by Trump and another Republican candidate (the name of whom currently escapes me).

EDIT: Senator Ted Cruz

What do you mean by overwrite Jim? Do you mean roll back Obamas executive actions?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by August

What do you mean by overwrite Jim? Do you mean roll back Obamas executive actions?

Yes Sir