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View Poll Results: How fast you want the Cloud's to move in the Sky
I like them the way they are 96 20.43%
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Old 09-30-07, 06:27 PM   #526
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Default I need to explain something here

First of all if you have released Mod's yourself you know you are the only one that controls what happens on the main thread page.

It is easy when you are the only guy involved and have only your content and changes to post and take care of.

Well I am in control but have other guys bringing to me new stuff and repairs that I am supose to make shure works and is set up in a way so that the download and install dosn't create a lot of problems to lator end up dealing with.

So much has been happening I haven't had time to answer all the questions timly before a new one is posted.

Also havn't had time to update the large main file so instead been just putting the add on's out there for you guys with fix's and extra's.

Right now I am trying to put together a new Main Download for new people with all the stuff posted in it. But give me some time. Even super compressing the files and havning a high speed DSL it takes over an hour and a half to get it up if there are no problems where you have to reupload it again.

Because I did not do the HTML README I can not change it just don't know how to do that. So I will make a Normal readme file and I hope get it set up where there will be a minimal of problems.

In the mean time for the install questions I hope I can count on the comunity to help because I am getting over whelmed with all of this and burning out fast.

I need someone to send me in a PM a Picture of your JSGME set up that shows an order of install With T.M. 1.6 then NSM 3.3 then this mod that I can post on the main thread page please.

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Old 09-30-07, 06:55 PM   #527
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You know Leo,I'm as happy as a pig in .... with both your wonderful mods but,there is one thing that from time to time bothers me, and it was there before these mods were even introduced into the game.
To me, the stars at night often seem like they are placed in front of the clouds when I'm looking out at the night panorama.
Am I just seeing things,or have you or anyone else noticed that anomoly?
That is why you can see the sun's halo through the sub's hull and why when the sub's hull is placed in a camera view after and before a sun set you can see the sun's halo effect through the water.

Also why the lightning appears through the sub's hull. I have a feeling there is something in the Shader files that controls this but again with no program that works with them it is up the the Hex readers to find the problem in them and try to repair it.

This is also why the crew becomes transparent as the fog starts to build something to do with either the shaders or game rendering.
Yep that's been one of the things that always annoyed me, being able to see the lens flare from the sun right thru your conning tower! Also the "see-thru" watch crew. Haven't had chance yet to see lightning but that might bother me too if it is shining thru my hull

But hey, I'll take what I can get! I cut my teeth on sub sims nearly 20 years ago with MicroProse's Silent Service II on my Amiga 2000. Looked like total crap compared to unmodded SH4 but somehow it was more addictive than crack! Now thanks to ROW the SH4 graphics are mind-boggling. I'm just waiting on a mod that will bring back that "addictive" SS2 gameplay.

Won't hold my breath though, I'm thinking that addictive quality of SS2 was a combo of my youth at the time, plus the total novelty of actually having a kick-ass computer. No "modern" game has ever recaptured the "magic" of those early, graphics-poor games for me God I hate getting old...

BTW, I finally got to see some ROW sea foam briefly. Actually had 14 m/s winds for nearly an hour of gametime, where before it was at constant 0 m/s! Looked fantastic, but strange happenings. I'd be looking at this gorgeous foam from the conning deck, and it would suddenly, instantly disappear Then a little later come back, then instantly disappear again. Anyone else seen anything like that?

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Old 09-30-07, 07:01 PM   #528
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As I recall the halo, lighthouse, search lights can always be seen through the people, subs and other ships. Been there since SH3. Someone had a fix in SH3 for it. But there are bigger fish to fry at the moment.
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Old 09-30-07, 07:10 PM   #529
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In the mean time for the install questions I hope I can count on the comunity to help because I am getting over whelmed with all of this and burning out fast.

OK men, you heard it here. Give Leo a break so he can work this out. Leo is enhancing the game. Some things he can not fix.

For example, see through people on the deck and lights you can see through the sub/ships/people have always been there. As a developer posted the crew is not part of the sub scene while on deck and the see through problem happens. This can not be repaired.

Anyone one in the community that can help answer questions for Leo, please do.
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Old 09-30-07, 07:13 PM   #530
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Can someone send me in a PM or something a Picture of an order of install with JSGME that I can post on the main thread post?


That includes Triger Maru and Natural Sinking Mechanics and then the correct order of install for ROW that I can post for people to see.

I can not do this with mine because I have ton's of over writen files renamed to god knows what to make all this stuff and see all the new work and adjusting other files that people have asked for.

So I am asking the community can you please get me a picture of this to post and I hope it helps with these problems.
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Old 09-30-07, 07:19 PM   #531
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Hey leo,

Here's my JSGME install...it seems to work well.

REL_Trigger_Maru_GFX_PAK_2_1
REL_Trigger_Maru_1-6
TMARU-Patch_1.6.2
TM 1.6 Campaign Patch 1.2
Natural Sinking Mechanics 3.3 Classic
ROW textures
ROW scene install lightning smoke fire oil LBO
ROW highend_sub_reflections 0.1
ROW Highend ship reflections 0.1
ROW highend_misc_reflections 0.1
ROW Camera Mod vs 4 arcade
ROW Special Effects with NSM Classic Zones
Captain Midnights MORE CBS NEWS! MOD v1,2
SILENT SERVICE 1.2c GRAPHICS MOD
GATO HI-RES V2
FooBor's TAMBOR MINOR WTH HI-RES V1.0
FooBor's PORPOISE MINOR WTH HI-RES V1.0

This is with NSM classic....cos I like it real!

Oh and Kriller, we do appreciate what you do mate....honest....its just that we're not all modders. Hell I was asked this the other day "Is windows Xp installed on my PC?".....from a user who has been in the company for 3 years with the same PC. Fact is, people need their hands held when it comes to IT.....trust me.
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Old 09-30-07, 07:30 PM   #532
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Hey leo,

Here's my JSGME install...it seems to work well.

REL_Trigger_Maru_GFX_PAK_2_1
REL_Trigger_Maru_1-6
TMARU-Patch_1.6.2
TM 1.6 Campaign Patch 1.2
Natural Sinking Mechanics 3.3 Classic
ROW textures
ROW scene install lightning smoke fire oil LBO
ROW highend_sub_reflections 0.1
ROW Highend ship reflections 0.1
ROW highend_misc_reflections 0.1
ROW Camera Mod vs 4 arcade
ROW Special Effects with NSM Classic Zones
Captain Midnights MORE CBS NEWS! MOD v1,2
SILENT SERVICE 1.2c GRAPHICS MOD
GATO HI-RES V2
FooBor's TAMBOR MINOR WTH HI-RES V1.0
FooBor's PORPOISE MINOR WTH HI-RES V1.0

This is with NSM classic....cos I like it real!

Oh and Kriller, we do appreciate what you do mate....honest....its just that we're not all modders. Hell I was asked this the other day "Is windows Xp installed on my PC?".....from a user who has been in the company for 3 years with the same PC. Fact is, people need their hands held when it comes to IT.....trust me.
The ROW Scene install lightning smoke was replaced by ROW Special effect's with NSM Classic so you had to allow a lot of over writing to happen to do what you did.

I am looking for a cleaned up Picture of a JSGME install to post that will stand out and show up for people to notice rather than blowing it off as oh ya more to read.
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Old 09-30-07, 07:35 PM   #533
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OK men, you heard it here. Give Leo a break so he can work this out. Leo is enhancing the game. Some things he can not fix.
Ditto on this one


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Old 09-30-07, 08:15 PM   #534
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Not sure Leo if i still need that "Missing Wake torp file " buth i hope this is about correct and can help you .
Still from the first download with WinUHA .
Planned to do a clean install with the Beta when it 's released.

ROW is running fine for me ...for a Alfa MOD..great job done modders .
Keep up the good work guy's and take your time ....even for a break now and then
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Old 09-30-07, 08:17 PM   #535
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Everyone will have to wait for the downloads. One of the testers have a 9yo and we will make sure she can handle it so if that happens then no one can flood me with PM's and messages here saysing what do I do I have this and don't understand that.

Too many people are by passing the info others are posting for questions and answers. and just adding onto the confusion and problems.

I will start work on this TOMARROW for now I am going to go play my game and unwind! I will not answer more questions on ROW until I set it up for download again.

When I do post the downloads just toss out everything you have for the people that do not understand when to install what when.

The new downloads will replace everything you have. If you do not read and understand something ask before you install it.

Peace And Out lord knows I need some peace!
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Not sure Leo if i still need that "Missing Wake torp file " buth i hope this is about correct and can help you .
Still from the first download with WinUHA .
Planned to do a clean install with the release of the Beta when it 's released.

ROW is running fine for me ...for a Alfa MOD..great job done modders .
Keep up the good work guy's and take your time ....even for a break now and then
And yes the missing torpedo wake file was included with the new textures file but for the most part you are dead on in your set up thanks that is what I needed.
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Sorry guys until this is fixed so a 9yo can handle the installs
Everyone will have to wait for the downloads. One of the testers have a 9yo and we will make sure she can handle it so if that happens then no one can flood me with PM's and messages here saysing what do I do I have this and don't understand that.

Too many people are by passing the info others are posting for questions and answers. and just adding onto the confusion and problems.

I will start work on this TOMARROW for now I am going to go play my game and unwind! I will not answer more questions on ROW until I set it up for download again.

When I do post the downloads just toss out everything you have for the people that do not understand when to install what when.

The new downloads will replace everything you have. If you do not read and understand something ask before you install it.

Peace And Out lord knows I need some peace!
Leo with respect to the average 9 year-old I think you're targetting the wrong audience! I imagine the typical 9 year-old could could install any number of mods manually, without JSGME. It's us elderly people that might have problems :hmm:

Go play, Leo! You've earned it 1000 times over, ya know? Don't think I've ever seen anyone give as much as you have in so little time. If there's anyone that deserves a month or 2 of undisturbed gameplay, it's you

And don't let people push you for answers to this that or the other. Last thing you need is to bust another vessel answering some question for the umpteenth time.

Give Leo a break guys!

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Hey on a completely different note but important none the less:

Have you guys noticed that your batteries no longer fully recharge with ROW? Mine only get to 99% and stay there. Very bad for fuel economy.

Anyone know why?
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I haven't noticed. I'll have to check that out, although I *thought* it was charging all the way. I *do* know that if your sugar-boat's batteries get damaged, they no longer recharge all the way, but I think that's just the way it always was.

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Hey on a completely different note but important none the less:

Have you guys noticed that your batteries no longer fully recharge with ROW? Mine only get to 99% and stay there. Very bad for fuel economy.

Anyone know why?
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I haven't noticed. I'll have to check that out, although I *thought* it was charging all the way. I *do* know that if your sugar-boat's batteries get damaged, they no longer recharge all the way, but I think that's just the way it always was.

Bill

The issue I believe was out there before ROW hit the scene.
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