Is the SH3 radar unusable?

Gabucino · 01-27-10, 12:54 PM

I'm using FuMO-30 on VIIC (GWX). The only radar contact I get is at the home dock at game start, then never again (yes I turn it on). Couldn't get any results with focused target scanning either.

GREY WOLF 3 · 01-27-10, 01:30 PM

UBOAT 47 GET OFF MY BOAT

psykopatsak · 01-27-10, 02:52 PM

very occationally can you get a radar contact, shortly before your watch crew spots them...

01-27-10, 03:22 PM

The main reason I get radar is that I can remain on the surface and keep rolling in foggy weather, without worrying about getting run over. To this end, it's always worked satisfactorialy.

Gilbou · 01-27-10, 06:29 PM

I have never used it yet. I do let the crewman handle it on subs it is installed but when I move to the station, nothing seems to work :/

CptCrunch · 01-28-10, 10:17 AM

I was experimenting with the radar today in a 1944 generated mission- knew a big convoy was coming, how close, and where and still couldn't get any joy from the radar. The escort vessels of course picked me up no problem - I know German radar was relatively primitive compared to the allies but it really seems completely useless!

Gilbou · 01-28-10, 07:14 PM

That's because it's not installed that I am not getting the green lines in the radar like in the SH4 ?

timwatson · 01-31-10, 04:01 PM

I'm with you on this. I've lost two boats due to accidental collisions in low visiblity conditions.

Something worth mentioning about May 42 radar: In high seas it seems to automatically diengage whenever a wave contacts the anntenna array, which if you think about it, makes sense.

Kaleun Rolfe Hass in U129

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Originally Posted by Snestorm

The main reason I get radar is that I can remain on the surface and keep rolling in foggy weather, without worrying about getting run over. To this end, it's always worked satisfactorialy.

Jimbuna · 01-31-10, 04:25 PM

It works fine...simply leave it on automatic sweep but be sure to turn it off if it detects something or they will come racing down your bearing.

IanC · 01-31-10, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

It works fine...simply leave it on automatic sweep but be sure to turn it off if it detects something or they will come racing down your bearing.

Cooool!

timwatson · 02-01-10, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by psykopatsak

very occationally can you get a radar contact, shortly before your watch crew spots them...

Unfortunately the radar array is actually mounted on the con at lower than the watch crew eye level. One has to assume at best it is capable of detecting enemy upper mast arrays too small to be seen by eye on the far horizon.

I try to limit use of radar partly because the early FUMO array was designed to only scan a very limited arc of horizon centered beyond the bows of the boat. It's main benefit seems to be detection when navigating a straight course in very low visiblity conditions - thereby reducing the hazard of a career-ending accidental collision.

Rolfe Hass U129

maillemaker · 02-01-10, 08:35 PM

I find radar to be useless. It almost never detects anything. First of all, you want radar the most in low visibility, which usually means rough seas. But if you have your radar set to continuous sweep and a wave crests your tower, it turns off the radar. Which means at any kind of time compression the radar is turning itself off every 3 seconds. Waste. Of. Time.

Secondly, it broadcasts your position. People are able to detect radar signals well before the person using the radar can detect the people detecting them.

So Radar is a fantastic beacon for enemy aircraft and task forces to come find you.

Radar detectors, on the other hand, are priceless.

timwatson · 02-01-10, 10:48 PM

Because of the fixed and narrow beam spread, I have to agree with the hazards of using the FUMO at all.
One consideration: when operating in low visiblity (fog and rain) conditions no aircraft will be operating.

Good hunting.

U129

02-01-10, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by timwatson;1255386/

One consideration: when operating in low visiblity (fog and rain) conditions no aircraft will be operating.

In the real world yes, but they have attacked me in Heavy Fog, in SH3.

timwatson · 02-01-10, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm

In the real world yes, but they have attacked me in Heavy Fog, in SH3.

Kaleun,

Thanks for the heads up on this! You may have saved me from a nasty surprize! I'm using the GWX 3 mod.

Next time I leave Lorient, I hope to have Metrox to keep a better eye on things.

Meanwhile we're headed towards New York area on our crew's 11th mission. So far 3 sinkings under our belt totaling 20,000 tons more or less. One was a transport and one a T3.
At this rate maybe we'll be lucky enough to reach the majic 30k renoun at the end of this voyage.

Good Hunting!

U129

01-27-10, 12:54 PM	#1
Gabucino Gunner Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 99 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Is the SH3 radar unusable? I'm using FuMO-30 on VIIC (GWX). The only radar contact I get is at the home dock at game start, then never again (yes I turn it on). Couldn't get any results with focused target scanning either. __________________ -- U-47 Personnel file

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01-28-10, 10:17 AM	#6
CptCrunch Seaman Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wales Posts: 31 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Doesn't work I was experimenting with the radar today in a 1944 generated mission- knew a big convoy was coming, how close, and where and still couldn't get any joy from the radar. The escort vessels of course picked me up no problem - I know German radar was relatively primitive compared to the allies but it really seems completely useless!

01-31-10, 04:25 PM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	It works fine...simply leave it on automatic sweep but be sure to turn it off if it detects something or they will come racing down your bearing. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-01-10, 10:48 PM	#13
timwatson Seaman Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 38 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	radar is a beacon for the enemy! Because of the fixed and narrow beam spread, I have to agree with the hazards of using the FUMO at all. One consideration: when operating in low visiblity (fog and rain) conditions no aircraft will be operating. Good hunting. U129 __________________ Rolfe Hass

01-27-10, 02:52 PM	#3
psykopatsak Medic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Grid AO27 Posts: 161 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	very occationally can you get a radar contact, shortly before your watch crew spots them...

01-27-10, 03:22 PM	#4
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	The main reason I get radar is that I can remain on the surface and keep rolling in foggy weather, without worrying about getting run over. To this end, it's always worked satisfactorialy.

01-27-10, 06:29 PM	#5
Gilbou Chief Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: France Posts: 313 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	I have never used it yet. I do let the crewman handle it on subs it is installed but when I move to the station, nothing seems to work :/

01-28-10, 07:14 PM	#7
Gilbou Chief Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: France Posts: 313 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	That's because it's not installed that I am not getting the green lines in the radar like in the SH4 ?

02-01-10, 08:35 PM	#12
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	I find radar to be useless. It almost never detects anything. First of all, you want radar the most in low visibility, which usually means rough seas. But if you have your radar set to continuous sweep and a wave crests your tower, it turns off the radar. Which means at any kind of time compression the radar is turning itself off every 3 seconds. Waste. Of. Time. Secondly, it broadcasts your position. People are able to detect radar signals well before the person using the radar can detect the people detecting them. So Radar is a fantastic beacon for enemy aircraft and task forces to come find you. Radar detectors, on the other hand, are priceless.