[WIP] IRAI (Intelligent Random AI) - Page 116

Trevally. · 04-23-12, 05:01 PM

Can you tell me where you see this Sober

There are only 2 that I know about (Scapa) and they are ment to be like this.

Edit: your post has gone. This was about the DDs with no waypoints.

THE_MASK · 04-23-12, 05:03 PM

Maybe you need to start a new campaign to see these new values in game . Does the game pulls some numbers from the SH5 save game files instead of the main game folder ? Classic example is the ini file . It takes the info from the save game file after you start a career , never the main game folder .

THE_MASK · 04-23-12, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Can you tell me where you see this Sober

There are only 2 that I know about (Scapa) and they are ment to be like this.

Edit: your post has gone. This was about the DDs with no waypoints.

Sorry , i shouldnt post without checking . you are correct V1.8 only has a couple . again my bad sorry .

Swat · 04-23-12, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sober

Did you un enable water disturbances mod .

I did.

Now I ran another test from the same save game. Have new 0033, 0031 upgrade and Shoot at periscope IRAI and that was actually something. Searching was still rather sporadic, but Shoot at periscope IRAI made them bring hell upon me, it felt good actually. As soon as they saw the scope they opened fire. Well well...it's getting somewhere. Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I think I'm gonna start my new "test" campaign with 0033+0031+Shoot at periscope IRAI and I'll see.

TheDarkWraith · 04-23-12, 05:36 PM

I'll check to the values in the sim.cfg file for 33 vs 31 to see if I screwed up and replaced the file

what v34 is going to bring to the table:
- speed restrictions based on crew ability removed. Now just a calculated speed restriction based on damage to the ship is used (no more outrunning the escort - only if it's badly damaged will you be able to do this)
- optimizations done to reduce memory / cpu cycle requirements
- working on when a docked unit goes into alert taking it out of docked status and into some other status (cross fingers on this one!)
- working on revamping plane AI to be more stealthy when approaching a contact (if it works then spotting planes will be very hard for you and your crew - you won't be able to spot them till it's way too late)
- some roles and ops removed as not needed by the changes made in v33

Sartoris · 04-23-12, 05:58 PM

I'll try to make some time tomorrow or the day after that to test the new files.

I'm very glad to see you working on the AI some more!

TheDarkWraith · 04-23-12, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sartoris

I'll try to make some time tomorrow or the day after that to test the new files.

I'm very glad to see you working on the AI some more!

Well I was playing the game and the AI pissed me off because it was acting dumb and the AI subs were dying off to fast and not hitting their targets so I finally had enough and jumped back into modding IRAI again

TheDarkWraith · 04-23-12, 08:19 PM

Found many problems and have been corrected. For one the ramming routine was hosed up because of a change I made some versions ago...wondered why no one was ever trying to ram me!

And things just got very interesting: ships will now shoot at you if they have spotted you and you are within the depth range and you are within the specified distance range...and this is not using Rongel's method

This means being submerged isn't safe anymore when you are close to a warship

There are two ways ships can fire upon you when submerged:
- if they visually detect you or radar detects you and you are <= 8000m from them and <= 25m depth
- if they detect you on hydro or sonar and you are <= 2000m from them and <= 25m depth

Poor AI subs get slaughtered now

While testing a Battleship fired all guns at a submerged AI sub....there was no chance for survival

Man this is brutal...I think Scapa Flow will be much harder now...

Rongel · 04-24-12, 12:31 AM

That sound really good TDW!

Quote:

- speed restrictions based on crew ability removed. Now just a calculated speed restriction based on damage to the ship is used (no more outrunning the escort - only if it's badly damaged will you be able to do this)

I'm especially happy about this one

Also curious to see how are the DD's acting when firing underwater sub, how many minutes they shoot the area or do they stop when you are out of their trigger area.

TheDarkWraith · 04-24-12, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rongel

That sound really good TDW!

I'm especially happy about this one

Also curious to see how are the DD's acting when firing underwater sub, how many minutes they shoot the area or do they stop when you are out of their trigger area.

They will continually shoot as long as the contact is within the parameters specified

If the contact dives to > 25m depth then they will quit shooting

TheDarkWraith · 04-24-12, 01:15 AM

Also figured this out:

That's the ship AI shooting starshells on their own (and this is not the work of FX_Update!)

I understand now how it works but the current implementation is flawed. There will be limited starshell activity in upcoming version. Version after that I will make the implementation correct.

TheDarkWraith · 04-24-12, 01:43 AM

And for those who don't think the hedge hogs are working:

They are working

I think the main problem is the spread pattern is too big, the weapon's (launcher) range is too small, and they fall too fast

TheDarkWraith · 04-24-12, 02:39 AM

v0.0.34 released. See post #1

Welcome to the start of the new hell...

Kentrat · 04-24-12, 03:18 AM

Hi TDW,

Many thanks,

Looking forward to trying this out!

One thing, the link to 34.1 on page one points to the IRAI_upgrade_to_v_0_0_31.zip

Regards

Sartoris · 04-24-12, 03:46 AM

Just to confirm, it's okay to install the 31 update after the new 34 version? And should the new IRAI be installed after FX update and NewUI?

04-23-12, 05:01 PM	#1726
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	Can you tell me where you see this Sober There are only 2 that I know about (Scapa) and they are ment to be like this. Edit: your post has gone. This was about the DDs with no waypoints. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

04-23-12, 08:19 PM	#1733
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	Found many problems and have been corrected. For one the ramming routine was hosed up because of a change I made some versions ago...wondered why no one was ever trying to ram me! And things just got very interesting: ships will now shoot at you if they have spotted you and you are within the depth range and you are within the specified distance range...and this is not using Rongel's method This means being submerged isn't safe anymore when you are close to a warship There are two ways ships can fire upon you when submerged: - if they visually detect you or radar detects you and you are <= 8000m from them and <= 25m depth - if they detect you on hydro or sonar and you are <= 2000m from them and <= 25m depth Poor AI subs get slaughtered now While testing a Battleship fired all guns at a submerged AI sub....there was no chance for survival Man this is brutal...I think Scapa Flow will be much harder now... Last edited by TheDarkWraith; 04-23-12 at 08:36 PM.

04-24-12, 01:15 AM	#1736
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	Also figured this out: That's the ship AI shooting starshells on their own (and this is not the work of FX_Update!) I understand now how it works but the current implementation is flawed. There will be limited starshell activity in upcoming version. Version after that I will make the implementation correct. Last edited by TheDarkWraith; 04-24-12 at 01:44 AM.

04-24-12, 01:43 AM	#1737
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	And for those who don't think the hedge hogs are working: They are working I think the main problem is the spread pattern is too big, the weapon's (launcher) range is too small, and they fall too fast Last edited by TheDarkWraith; 04-24-12 at 02:45 AM.

04-24-12, 03:18 AM	#1739
Kentrat Torpedoman Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sitting on the Becks crate scraping the mould off the bread... Posts: 112 Downloads: 116 Uploads: 0	Hi TDW, Many thanks, Looking forward to trying this out! One thing, the link to 34.1 on page one points to the IRAI_upgrade_to_v_0_0_31.zip Regards __________________ Kentrat Kapitänleutnant, U-136, (typ. VIIb 16v GTi) If God didn't want us to eat animals, He would not have made them out of meat....

04-23-12, 05:03 PM	#1727
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Maybe you need to start a new campaign to see these new values in game . Does the game pulls some numbers from the SH5 save game files instead of the main game folder ? Classic example is the ini file . It takes the info from the save game file after you start a career , never the main game folder .

04-23-12, 05:36 PM	#1730
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	I'll check to the values in the sim.cfg file for 33 vs 31 to see if I screwed up and replaced the file what v34 is going to bring to the table: - speed restrictions based on crew ability removed. Now just a calculated speed restriction based on damage to the ship is used (no more outrunning the escort - only if it's badly damaged will you be able to do this) - optimizations done to reduce memory / cpu cycle requirements - working on when a docked unit goes into alert taking it out of docked status and into some other status (cross fingers on this one!) - working on revamping plane AI to be more stealthy when approaching a contact (if it works then spotting planes will be very hard for you and your crew - you won't be able to spot them till it's way too late) - some roles and ops removed as not needed by the changes made in v33

04-23-12, 05:58 PM	#1731
Sartoris Captain Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 489 Downloads: 106 Uploads: 0	I'll try to make some time tomorrow or the day after that to test the new files. I'm very glad to see you working on the AI some more!

04-24-12, 02:39 AM	#1738
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	v0.0.34 released. See post #1 Welcome to the start of the new hell...

04-24-12, 03:46 AM	#1740
Sartoris Captain Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 489 Downloads: 106 Uploads: 0	Just to confirm, it's okay to install the 31 update after the new 34 version? And should the new IRAI be installed after FX update and NewUI?