u-boot.realsimulation.com site defaced... - Page 2

Rosencrantz · 07-10-06, 04:24 PM

Whatta...

Those guyes... I'm sure they don't have enough guts even to go for a drink in the bar. Just sitting on the screen... Jeez. I doubt if they have ever got la*d, BTW...

:rotfl:

-RC-

Subnuts · 07-10-06, 04:46 PM

No wonder the communists were so unpopular - HaXorED!!!

VonHelsching · 07-10-06, 04:54 PM

I cannot understand why on earth *anyone* wants to hack a site that hosts mods for a game. It's beyond my grasp.

Cowards.

Sulikate · 07-10-06, 05:03 PM

That's sad. I hope there is a way to get the site back.

JSalinger · 07-10-06, 05:16 PM

They're not scum. They're Marxist Socialist bastards!

Let me at 'em! By the time I'm through with them, they'll be doing this:

Jager · 07-11-06, 11:00 PM

Damn it, can't these people find something else to amuse them ? I'm curious, how does someone actually "Hack" a site ?

JohnnyBlaze · 07-11-06, 11:07 PM

I was wondering.. is it save to use the u-boot.realsimulation.com site? Or is it still under control of those bloody hackers? I'm asking this because the site now looks normal to me.

P_Funk · 07-11-06, 11:11 PM

You guys are wondering why they targeted that particular site. To me an obvious explanation is the fact that they tout themselves as Socialists and put up a big Soviet Hammer and Sickle. Well last time I checked Communism (the Soviet brand) was polar opposite Fascism (ie. Hitler, the Third Reich, and of course its military assets like it's u-boats). These little pissants probably think they're taking a shot at some Fascist lovers who relive the time of Hitler through their sub-sims :rotfl:. I'm sure they aren't very sophisticated thinkers when it comes to ideology. And if they're targeting a free mod web site for a game that was also itself under the radar then I wonder how good they really could be. I mean shouldn't they instead be attacking the KKK forums or something? I mean if they are so ideologically driven as their banner would suggest.

All I know is that they give Socialism a bad name (as if Stalin hasn't already done enough).

shegeek72 · 07-12-06, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jager

Damn it, can't these people find something else to amuse them ? I'm curious, how does someone actually "Hack" a site ?

By getting the password to the ftp files, or finding a back door: http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/...html/aid/11815

hardcampa · 07-12-06, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by shegeek72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jager

Damn it, can't these people find something else to amuse them ? I'm curious, how does someone actually "Hack" a site ?

By getting the password to the ftp files, or finding a back door: http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/...html/aid/11815

Lol that link was funny and completely pointless.
When someone hacks a computer in 99.999% of the cases they simply look for exploits, bad ASP or PHP code running on the web server for example, most often I would say the reason to why they succeeded is that the admin missed/didn't bother with a new patch for whatever is running on the server.
Any program that is running on a server must be kept track of and updated when there's an update.

99.9% of all web defaces etc are made by script kiddies. These guys don't know how to code or anything, they simply run bots and programs (that other have done) on computers that already been owned by some other script etc, the scripts then look for vulnerabilities at whatever sites they stumble upon. Once found they can install and deface a webpage with whatever info they want.

Admins really should follow lists like bugtraq etc to learn about new exploits, this is just common sense if you're a security aware admin.

A final note, these guys seldom, "target" a specific site. Their bot searching for vulnerabilities just happened to stumble upon a site that had a vulnerability.

U-Bones · 07-12-06, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by hardcampa

Quote:

Originally Posted by shegeek72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jager

Damn it, can't these people find something else to amuse them ? I'm curious, how does someone actually "Hack" a site ?

By getting the password to the ftp files, or finding a back door: http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/...html/aid/11815

Lol that link was funny and completely pointless.
When someone hacks a computer in 99.999% of the cases they simply look for exploits, bad ASP or PHP code running on the web server for example, most often I would say the reason to why they succeeded is that the admin missed/didn't bother with a new patch for whatever is running on the server.
Any program that is running on a server must be kept track of and updated when there's an update.

99.9% of all web defaces etc are made by script kiddies. These guys don't know how to code or anything, they simply run bots and programs (that other have done) on computers that already been owned by some other script etc, the scripts then look for vulnerabilities at whatever sites they stumble upon. Once found they can install and deface a webpage with whatever info they want.

Admins really should follow lists like bugtraq etc to learn about new exploits, this is just common sense if you're a security aware admin.

A final note, these guys seldom, "target" a specific site. Their bot searching for vulnerabilities just happened to stumble upon a site that had a vulnerability.

Exactly.

One additional point. "...just happened to stumble upon a site" is perhaps downsizing what goes on. The bots actually harvest a large list of hosts with vunerabilities, which the kiddies can pick and choose from. Many (if not most) machines are insufficiently patched.

NeonSamurai · 07-12-06, 09:05 AM

That job looked to me like the typical wanabe hacker kiddy exploit hack. The only reason why the site was targeted was simply because they found it had the exploit they were working with.

Usualy all the political crap is just a smoke screen, they usualy do it in a lame attempt to throw off the scent.

Typicaly these wanabes dont find their own exploits, they just use published ones they find on the net. Total amatures. Sending viruses back on an email just proves that.

hardcampa · 07-13-06, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by U-Bones

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Originally Posted by hardcampa

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Originally Posted by shegeek72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jager

Damn it, can't these people find something else to amuse them ? I'm curious, how does someone actually "Hack" a site ?

By getting the password to the ftp files, or finding a back door: http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/...html/aid/11815

Lol that link was funny and completely pointless.
When someone hacks a computer in 99.999% of the cases they simply look for exploits, bad ASP or PHP code running on the web server for example, most often I would say the reason to why they succeeded is that the admin missed/didn't bother with a new patch for whatever is running on the server.
Any program that is running on a server must be kept track of and updated when there's an update.

99.9% of all web defaces etc are made by script kiddies. These guys don't know how to code or anything, they simply run bots and programs (that other have done) on computers that already been owned by some other script etc, the scripts then look for vulnerabilities at whatever sites they stumble upon. Once found they can install and deface a webpage with whatever info they want.

Admins really should follow lists like bugtraq etc to learn about new exploits, this is just common sense if you're a security aware admin.

A final note, these guys seldom, "target" a specific site. Their bot searching for vulnerabilities just happened to stumble upon a site that had a vulnerability.

Exactly.

One additional point. "...just happened to stumble upon a site" is perhaps downsizing what goes on. The bots actually harvest a large list of hosts with vunerabilities, which the kiddies can pick and choose from. Many (if not most) machines are insufficiently patched.

Yeah, I didn't want to get too technical. They scan a range of IP's to keep it short. =>

These guys should not be mistaken for coders like the cracker groups have (Reloaded, Deviance and such), those guys are real good coders. The web defacing mess, well those are just nobodys.

shegeek72 · 07-13-06, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hardcampa

Lol that link was funny and completely pointless.

I know. Was waiting for someone to 'get it.'

The efforts to "cover your tracks" could have been done better. Its abit
transparent about deleting windows.
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Shadow9216 · 07-13-06, 03:31 PM

And then of course there's the good old "DOS" attacks...internet extortion- pay us a sum or we shut down your site. Many of those punks have a "corporate" logo to represent their little band of thieves. Good news is that they have to leave a trace in order to get paid- bad news is they usually exist outside of US jurisdiction. Still, international law enforcement cooperates fairly well these days in such cases.

07-10-06, 04:46 PM	#2
Subnuts The Old Man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,658 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	No wonder the communists were so unpopular - HaXorED!!! __________________ My Amazon.com reviews

07-10-06, 04:54 PM	#3
VonHelsching Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 1,025 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I cannot understand why on earth anyone wants to hack a site that hosts mods for a game. It's beyond my grasp. Cowards. __________________

07-10-06, 05:03 PM	#4
Sulikate Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Korea Posts: 834 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	That's sad. I hope there is a way to get the site back. __________________ Se flutua e não fala quack, afunde-o!

07-10-06, 05:16 PM	#5
JSalinger Sparky Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Spokane, WA, USA Posts: 156 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	They're not scum. They're Marxist Socialist bastards! Let me at 'em! By the time I'm through with them, they'll be doing this: __________________ J. Salinger King of the House

07-11-06, 11:00 PM	#6
Jager Loader Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land of "Freezing my rear off" Posts: 89 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Damn it, can't these people find something else to amuse them ? I'm curious, how does someone actually "Hack" a site ? __________________

07-10-06, 04:24 PM	#1
Rosencrantz Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 758 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Whatta... Those guyes... I'm sure they don't have enough guts even to go for a drink in the bar. Just sitting on the screen... Jeez. I doubt if they have ever got la*d, BTW... :rotfl: -RC-

07-11-06, 11:07 PM	#7
JohnnyBlaze Officer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 247 Downloads: 205 Uploads: 0	I was wondering.. is it save to use the u-boot.realsimulation.com site? Or is it still under control of those bloody hackers? I'm asking this because the site now looks normal to me.

07-11-06, 11:11 PM	#8
P_Funk Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 2,537 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	You guys are wondering why they targeted that particular site. To me an obvious explanation is the fact that they tout themselves as Socialists and put up a big Soviet Hammer and Sickle. Well last time I checked Communism (the Soviet brand) was polar opposite Fascism (ie. Hitler, the Third Reich, and of course its military assets like it's u-boats). These little pissants probably think they're taking a shot at some Fascist lovers who relive the time of Hitler through their sub-sims :rotfl:. I'm sure they aren't very sophisticated thinkers when it comes to ideology. And if they're targeting a free mod web site for a game that was also itself under the radar then I wonder how good they really could be. I mean shouldn't they instead be attacking the KKK forums or something? I mean if they are so ideologically driven as their banner would suggest. All I know is that they give Socialism a bad name (as if Stalin hasn't already done enough). __________________

07-12-06, 09:05 AM	#12
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	That job looked to me like the typical wanabe hacker kiddy exploit hack. The only reason why the site was targeted was simply because they found it had the exploit they were working with. Usualy all the political crap is just a smoke screen, they usualy do it in a lame attempt to throw off the scent. Typicaly these wanabes dont find their own exploits, they just use published ones they find on the net. Total amatures. Sending viruses back on an email just proves that. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

07-13-06, 03:31 PM	#15
Shadow9216 Frogman Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 296 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	And then of course there's the good old "DOS" attacks...internet extortion- pay us a sum or we shut down your site. Many of those punks have a "corporate" logo to represent their little band of thieves. Good news is that they have to leave a trace in order to get paid- bad news is they usually exist outside of US jurisdiction. Still, international law enforcement cooperates fairly well these days in such cases.