u-boot.realsimulation.com site defaced...

[U-Bones]

htt-----p://u-boot.realsimulation.com/ has been defaced.

I would discourage using any files you may get from that site for a while

[Pants]

I REALLY hate people like this...why dont they find something else to do...i know Go and play in on-coming traffic!!

[Sir Big Jugs]

[Ducimus]

If the hackers are really russian as the new index screen would seem to indicate, then id definatly avoid anything from that site, and most certainly NOT click on the link the hackers provided.

Russian spyware, viruses and the like are the bloody worst. Pick up one of those, and i garuntee you, if you have any valuable data that prohibits wiping the disk and reinstalling, you'll spend the next month trying to weed the bloody thing out of your system, IF you ever FULLY get it out.

[Drebbel]

Indeed, it now looks like this:



Click the picture to zoom in

[Sir Big Jugs]

I emailed them!

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Brewster Pilot

I emailed them!

Unless its an anonymous email account you used taht can't be traced back to you, that was incredibly stupid.

[Sir Big Jugs]

No viruses on their site as it seems.

[Ducimus]

you realize you leave a fringerprint where ever you go on the internet don't you?

[Sir Big Jugs]

It is an anonymous account.

[shegeek72]

I think it's important to distinguish between malicious, or black or gray hat, hackers (also known as crackers) and the good guys: white hat hackers. It's slugs like those who cracked the website that give legit hackers a bad name.
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[U-Bones]

Originally Posted by shegeek72

I think it's important to distinguish between malicious, or black or gray hat, hackers (also known as crackers) and the good guys: white hat hackers. It's slugs like those who cracked the website that give legit hackers a bad name.
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If you have the owners permission, you are not a hacker. If you don't have permission, you are no different than a thief. There is no such thing as a legit hacker, they exist only as a common oxymoron.

When I make sure my door is locked when I leave my house, I am securing my property, not using my leet white hat burglar skilz. When I test a weakness in a systems my company or employer owns, I am a security professional doing my job, not a hacker. Same with testing and reporting to the industry in general, with the goal of defending against these amd other attacks.

These jerks deserve no ambigious language to hide behind. They are destructive and subversive criminals. Trying to grey the lines between good and bad is the agenda of evil and deception. Truth is both binary and polarizing.

Not a personal attack - I am implying -only- that you are repeating a common mistake that removes clarity while claiming to clarify.

[Seminole]

Originally Posted by U-Bones

If you have the owners permission, you are not a hacker. If you don't have permission, you are no different than a thief. There is no such thing as a legit hacker, they exist only as a common oxymoron.

When I make sure my door is locked when I leave my house, I am securing my property, not using my leet white hat burglar skilz. When I test a weakness in a systems my company or employer owns, I am a security professional doing my job, not a hacker. Same with testing and reporting to the industry in general, with the goal of defending against these amd other attacks.

These jerks deserve no ambigious language to hide behind. They are destructive and subversive criminals. Trying to grey the lines between good and bad is the agenda of evil and deception. Truth is both binary and polarizing.

Not a personal attack - I am implying -only- that you are repeating a common mistake that removes clarity while claiming to clarify.

Hear! Hear!

[shegeek72]

I understand your logic. However, there are legit hackers. The work "hacker" is reported to have originated from MIT when they acquired the first PDP-1. Students and faculty worked on developing new software tools, and some of them were writing the first video game, Spacewar.

http://www.mos.org/exhibits/Computin...acking/3c.html

A white-hat hacker would never try to break into your home, unless you asked them to (btw, I like the show "It Takes a Thief" - an example of legit hacking). When you test security systems for flaws you are hacking, whether you define yourself as such or not.

If anyone has doubts about this, check out the google group alt.hacker. When I first started reading the newsgroup I expected to find a bunch of pimply, teenagers showing off their cracking skills. Instead I found a great bunch of people, many who are, or were, system administrators who work in improving security and preventing break-ins. I've learned more about computer security from that group than anything else.

It's the media, and folk likes those who take-down websites, spread viruses, etc. who've given hackers a bad image. As an aside, I hope everyone here has anti-virus software, a firewall and doesn't use Outlook/OL Express or Internet Explorer - these programs are security risks (due to Microsoft's lackadasical concern about security) and just invite someone compromising your computer. Use Firefox web browser or Opera, and Thunderbird email client or Eudora.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by U-Bones

htt-----p://u-boot.realsimulation.com/ has been defaced.

I would discourage using any files you may get from that site for a while

Thanks for the warning, this sort of thing really get's me angry these people are not clever they are scum.