french and terroism

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Let's skip the usual line by line and fastforward to the meet:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

On the contrary. It's the hypocritical world, that gives the terrorists their ongoing support, money and motivation that keeps them going.

Had the world stood shoulder to shoulder decades ago and said we don't recognize the idea of a state run by people who blow up airplanes, buses, schools, houses and restaurants full of people, who slaughter unarmed Olympic participants, who blow up embassies, who continue to proclaim to this very day in all of their national charters that Israel must be destroyed - well, sir, you see, its thugs like you that support the beasts who are the most to blame. Shame on the likes of you.

Shame on the likes of me eh? Those two paragraphs go to the heart of yours, Sybirds, and other's historical relativism where you can pick and choose the "good parts" while ignoring the parts not so kind to you and yours; let us not forget that the world didn't begin when the state of Israel was proclaimed, nor can you beat the drums so righteously about the enemies methods when your own history includes the very same tactics going back long before the creation of the Israeli state. In fact while Canadians and the rest of the world were fighting Nazi Germany your "democratic" predecessors were routinely carrying out terrorist attacks against the British while they were fighting the Nazis (one such faction even going so far as to pledge alegience to Hitler as "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"). Then there is the fact that a wanted terrorist by the British went on to become your first PM. Nice history, and you have the gall to compare your Nazi like tactics against the Palestians as part of some global mythical struggle against "Islamofacism".

And while you were destroying Lebanon piece by piece and seeking UN support you still took time out to celebrate the anniversary of the bombing of the King David Hotel and comemorate it, and the hundreds of British nationals killed in it by Jewish radicals disguised as Muslims, with a nice little plague - how very civilized and noble of you.

And as to the Palestinian Parliment, would that be the one that your IDF routinely kidnaps and holds its representatives indefinitely in detention of? Yeah some parliment, some freedom you grant the Palestinians from under your boot.

You are really not so different from your enemy; you claim a right to a piece of land as sacred based purely upon religious doctrine, and which you have no other ties to yet will cling to it by any means available, no matter how brutal. If you go back a few decades before 1949 your numbers there were tiny, the sins your people having had suffered being caused by Europeans, not Muslims, and Israel was to be a refuge from the tyranny that Europeans, not Muslims, had for centuries exacted upon you. It wasn't until the locals realized that you'd come not to simply live among them, but to take the land from them, that the **** hit the fan.

Now Skybird and his ilk see Muslims emigrating to Europe, and Germany specifically, and his fears seem to amount to exactly that which your people had done in what was then Palestine... funny how this sort of projection works, and it would be funnier still if they in fact did have such designs and were ever successful, since then things would truly have gone full circle (seeing how the state of Israel was granted largely based upon Western guilt for the crimes we'd allowed Nazi Germany to inflict upon European Jews).

To me Israel is no victim, instead you are part of the root cause of the problem. Though as I said before, if you were ever to lose the annual welfare cheque you receive from the US and blanket UN veto then you might, just might, be forced to change your ways enough to get along with your neighbours - I know they're not the best bunch one could hope for, but you did pick them; and most sane people, upon moving to a bad neighbourhood, would either work to clean it up and make it better or simply pack up and move. Your country, however, is not sane, being founded and based solely upon irrational religious dogma, and chooses instead to build fences, blow things up, play the victim, and blame the rest of the world for either opposing you or appeasing the enemies that you yourself have made.