[REL] RFB/Real Fleet Boat for 1.5 - Page 183

vanjast · 02-23-09, 03:59 PM

WOW!! what a great pic

- Straight onto my desktop...

Fer32 · 02-23-09, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

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Originally Posted by Fer32

I just installed RFB and RSRDC and I really like this combo but I have some questions, I used TMO before and if I use a high time compression my saves always become corrupted, can I use high time compression now? (over 7000).
Am I doing something wrog or my crew cant managed the deck gun and flak. Is this realistic? I dont think that I, as a commander has to do it.

I use high TC and have not experienced corrupted game saves. As far as I know, if there is no men in the slots for the cannon, you need to put them there to have them work the gun. I leave it open because there are two gunners in the forward torp room. I move these to gunners there and grab some guys from my damage control team. They make up a pretty good team on the cannon. Remember, you got sailors that are new and do not know how to use these yet efficiently. As you patrol more they get better and you will not have to do it yourself. About your third patrol it gets much better with your cannon crew. It is all about crew development! Also, sea state affects how accurate they are.

Thank you sir, exactly what I needed to know

Soundman · 02-23-09, 05:49 PM

The 152 patch link appears to be broken. It is taking me to the Filefront home page.

LukeFF · 02-23-09, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish40

Luke you're a first class Ballbreaker! I love it:rotfl: Seriously though, the new environment work looks stunning! Is this available now, or still in testing? Also, how much of a framerate hit if any, compared to RFB with just EE?

What can I say? I aim to please.

We just barely started testing Real Environment a couple of days ago. It will take some work and adjustment to the sensors to make the mod fully function how it's supposed to. Frame rate hit so far seems to be negligible, at least for myself (running an ATI 4870, 4 GB RAM, Core I7 940).

Oh yeah, and to answer my trivia question above: yes, we hacked off the jackstaff and the cable that was running to it. You'll see some similar modifications to the Salmon, Sargo, and S Class boats as well.

LukeFF · 02-23-09, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Soundman

The 152 patch link appears to be broken. It is taking me to the Filefront home page.

We're still working on it.

Stealhead · 02-23-09, 10:18 PM

LukeFF I love your RFB man nice job and it looks really great with W_Clears enviromental mod gald to see that you are considering adding it next time around. I really love the ship damage system to me that makes your supermod stand out and shine. I noticed that there is an ice cream machine it the damage control list does it effect morale if it gets destroyed?

Awsome work.
P.S. mot sure why some say that RFB is a hit on frame rate not an issue for and I dont have a top of the line machine.(though I do have a quad core cpu)

Soundman · 02-23-09, 10:29 PM

WOW!... I was just reading a few threads back on this debate between RR and Oleg, sometimes AVG.. You know, everyone makes good points IMO. Of course we must respect all of our beloved modders time and effort, but in a perfect world I can see where Oleg is coming from. From the perspective that gameplay and eyecandy are two different animals, why not offer a "gameplay only" RFB (or TMO) and another version with both gameplay and the visual mods included. The problem seems to lie in the time and effort a modder has available and avoiding the confusion we all have, figuring out what mod is compatible with one another.

However... I can see an even more perfect world...and the person who could pull this off would be a (pardon my expression) a "Mod God" so to speak, in this community.

Let me expound... I'm sure many of us "Sim Fanatics" here have also dabbled a bit with flightsims and played Falcon 4.0, a true, great simulation. Well, how many can remember when "Superpack 3" came about and then we had the "BMS F4 Configuration Editor". This was a fantastic addition allowing the flexibility to open this utility up and there you could see all of the different mods available. All you needed to do was put a check mark next to the modification of your choice and start the game and BAM ... you played it the way you wanted.

Now I realize this is not Falcon 4.0 and things may be a bit more complicated with this simulation, but with the talent I have witnessed inside this forum, I find it hard to believe something along these lines can't be accomplished and think this could be the answer to all our SH4 prayers. Yes, it would be a major undertaking, but if this could be done it would allieviate the problems of what mod works with what mod, how much eye candy do you want, and in general, how do YOU wish to play the game AND allow you to do it. Yes, maybe I'm dreaming, but it's a nice one !

I honestly believe something along these lines desperately needs to happen. We have some really great mods out there and even the best of them get critisism for some small detail. It would seem obvious that what the subsim community really desires, is the flexibility to mold the game into each individuals own vision of reality, not neccessarily what the modders may invision in their world.

tater · 02-24-09, 12:02 AM

Soundman, the problem is that this stuff all interacts. The environment mods change the way the sensors work. That changes, well, everything. Given that the AI changes based on AI skill level are hard-coded, such a change could possibly (not likely, but just for the sake of argument) require all the skill levels in the campaign to be tweaked.

The ONLY way to test this... is playing it.

Every single enviro patch... fubars everything else.

The only way for the enviro-guys to be compatible is to make their mod strictly RFB compatible... it's a can of worms, sadly.

I'm goin' down · 02-24-09, 02:56 AM

I have the current RFB mod and patch and the current, correct RSRDC mod and patch. I now have DECK guns...finally. I have a Digital_Trucker custom boat -- a Gar. At sea the boat's emblem, boat's number and kills are pasted on the boat. However, in port at the beginning of a mission my boat's (USS GAR) name and number is not recognized, nor is my handle. What is up with this? Can it be an RFB mod problem?

I have wasted several days figuring out I had no deck guns because the links in RFB to RSRDC were to out of date RSRDC files. Apparently, RFB has eliminated those links. In any event, I would like to know if there is any way to fix the problems I am experiencing in port at commencement of a mission?

I'm goin' down · 02-24-09, 03:15 AM

I have a deck gun and an anti aircraft gun. The anti aircraft gun is manned by a couple of men. However, the slots for the men to fill are behind the ship's dials. It is hard/impossible to fill the slots and I have one gunner who I can extract to his original positon inside the boat. What is the story/remedy? My screen, which is 14 - 15 inches is set to 1280 x 920 resolution?

pythos · 02-24-09, 03:22 AM

I have decided to leave TMO and try RFB+RSDC, but this plan was stopped by the inability to acquire the patch. Filefront just directs me to their main page.

Thought you should know.

Fincuan · 02-24-09, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by I'm goin' down

I have wasted several days figuring out I had no deck guns because the links in RFB to RSRDC were to out of date RSRDC files. Apparently, RFB has eliminated those links.

There hasn't been such links. Look at the "last edited" date of the first post:

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Originally Posted by First post in this thread

Last edited by RFB Team : 01-29-2009 at 04:19 AM. Reason: New file uploaded

I'm goin' down · 02-24-09, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fincuan

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Originally Posted by I'm goin' down

I have wasted several days figuring out I had no deck guns because the links in RFB to RSRDC were to out of date RSRDC files. Apparently, RFB has eliminated those links.

There hasn't been such links. Look at the "last edited" date of the first post:

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Originally Posted by First post in this thread

Last edited by RFB Team : 01-29-2009 at 04:19 AM. Reason: New file uploaded

Well, I got the downloads from a link at RSRDC or RFB. Your post merely indicates that they have not edited the first post since the end of Janaury. It does not address what links were contained therein prior to the date of its last edit. I never downloaded from RSRDC until Sunday. It is not really important though. The point is that one of these main threads was providing obsolete information re RSRDC and it caused me to lose my deck guns. Now, I have them, but my boat dials block the anti-aircraft gun personnel slots, and I cannot garb the one sailor I somehow managed to squeeze into the gun slot and drag him back to his crewman slot. I have been unable to drag another crewman to the second slot on the anti-aircraft gun. Every time I try, I end up triggering the back 1/3 speed dial arrow.

I'm goin' down · 02-24-09, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fincuan

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Originally Posted by I'm goin' down

I have wasted several days figuring out I had no deck guns because the links in RFB to RSRDC were to out of date RSRDC files. Apparently, RFB has eliminated those links.

There hasn't been such links. Look at the "last edited" date of the first post:

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Originally Posted by First post in this thread

Last edited by RFB Team : 01-29-2009 at 04:19 AM. Reason: New file uploaded

Well, I got the downloads from a link at RSRDC or RFB. Your post merely indicates that they have not edited the first post since the end of Janaury. It does not address what links were contained therein prior to the date of its last edit. I never downloaded from RSRDC until Sunday. It is not really important though. The point is that one of these main threads was providing obsolete information re RSRDC and it caused me to lose my deck guns. Now, I have them, but my boat dials block the anti-aircraft gun personnel slots, and I cannot garb the one sailor I somehow managed to squeeze into the gun slot and drag him back to his crewman slot. I have been unable to drag another crewman to the second slot on the anti-aircraft gun. Every time I try, I end up triggering the back 1/3 speed dial arrow.

Fincuan · 02-24-09, 07:23 AM

It's kind of impossible that someone removed the links a few days ago if the post has been edited in January, that's what I was trying to say.

02-23-09, 05:49 PM	#2733
Soundman Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 617 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	The 152 patch link appears to be broken. It is taking me to the Filefront home page. __________________ RVAH-9 RA-5C Vigilante at NAS Sanford, Fl 1966 The coolest plane few have heard of!

02-23-09, 10:29 PM	#2737
Soundman Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 617 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	WOW!... I was just reading a few threads back on this debate between RR and Oleg, sometimes AVG.. You know, everyone makes good points IMO. Of course we must respect all of our beloved modders time and effort, but in a perfect world I can see where Oleg is coming from. From the perspective that gameplay and eyecandy are two different animals, why not offer a "gameplay only" RFB (or TMO) and another version with both gameplay and the visual mods included. The problem seems to lie in the time and effort a modder has available and avoiding the confusion we all have, figuring out what mod is compatible with one another. However... I can see an even more perfect world...and the person who could pull this off would be a (pardon my expression) a "Mod God" so to speak, in this community. Let me expound... I'm sure many of us "Sim Fanatics" here have also dabbled a bit with flightsims and played Falcon 4.0, a true, great simulation. Well, how many can remember when "Superpack 3" came about and then we had the "BMS F4 Configuration Editor". This was a fantastic addition allowing the flexibility to open this utility up and there you could see all of the different mods available. All you needed to do was put a check mark next to the modification of your choice and start the game and BAM ... you played it the way you wanted. Now I realize this is not Falcon 4.0 and things may be a bit more complicated with this simulation, but with the talent I have witnessed inside this forum, I find it hard to believe something along these lines can't be accomplished and think this could be the answer to all our SH4 prayers. Yes, it would be a major undertaking, but if this could be done it would allieviate the problems of what mod works with what mod, how much eye candy do you want, and in general, how do YOU wish to play the game AND allow you to do it. Yes, maybe I'm dreaming, but it's a nice one ! I honestly believe something along these lines desperately needs to happen. We have some really great mods out there and even the best of them get critisism for some small detail. It would seem obvious that what the subsim community really desires, is the flexibility to mold the game into each individuals own vision of reality, not neccessarily what the modders may invision in their world. __________________ RVAH-9 RA-5C Vigilante at NAS Sanford, Fl 1966 The coolest plane few have heard of! Last edited by Soundman; 02-23-09 at 10:53 PM.

02-24-09, 02:56 AM	#2739
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	One final problem I have the current RFB mod and patch and the current, correct RSRDC mod and patch. I now have DECK guns...finally. I have a Digital_Trucker custom boat -- a Gar. At sea the boat's emblem, boat's number and kills are pasted on the boat. However, in port at the beginning of a mission my boat's (USS GAR) name and number is not recognized, nor is my handle. What is up with this? Can it be an RFB mod problem? I have wasted several days figuring out I had no deck guns because the links in RFB to RSRDC were to out of date RSRDC files. Apparently, RFB has eliminated those links. In any event, I would like to know if there is any way to fix the problems I am experiencing in port at commencement of a mission?

02-24-09, 03:15 AM	#2740
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	follow up question I have a deck gun and an anti aircraft gun. The anti aircraft gun is manned by a couple of men. However, the slots for the men to fill are behind the ship's dials. It is hard/impossible to fill the slots and I have one gunner who I can extract to his original positon inside the boat. What is the story/remedy? My screen, which is 14 - 15 inches is set to 1280 x 920 resolution?

02-24-09, 03:22 AM	#2741
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Where is the patch? I have decided to leave TMO and try RFB+RSDC, but this plan was stopped by the inability to acquire the patch. Filefront just directs me to their main page. Thought you should know.

02-23-09, 03:59 PM	#2731
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	WOW!! what a great pic - Straight onto my desktop...

02-23-09, 10:18 PM	#2736
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	LukeFF I love your RFB man nice job and it looks really great with W_Clears enviromental mod gald to see that you are considering adding it next time around. I really love the ship damage system to me that makes your supermod stand out and shine. I noticed that there is an ice cream machine it the damage control list does it effect morale if it gets destroyed? Awsome work. P.S. mot sure why some say that RFB is a hit on frame rate not an issue for and I dont have a top of the line machine.(though I do have a quad core cpu)

02-24-09, 12:02 AM	#2738
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Soundman, the problem is that this stuff all interacts. The environment mods change the way the sensors work. That changes, well, everything. Given that the AI changes based on AI skill level are hard-coded, such a change could possibly (not likely, but just for the sake of argument) require all the skill levels in the campaign to be tweaked. The ONLY way to test this... is playing it. Every single enviro patch... fubars everything else. The only way for the enviro-guys to be compatible is to make their mod strictly RFB compatible... it's a can of worms, sadly.

02-24-09, 07:23 AM	#2745
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	It's kind of impossible that someone removed the links a few days ago if the post has been edited in January, that's what I was trying to say.