[REL] Real Fleet Boat - Page 85

Paul Roberts · 07-28-07, 05:50 PM

I love RFB 1.31 except for two things:

1) I really like the way TMaru remapped the hotkeys to be more in line with SH3's layout. This was a real help for those of us who play both sims. Is there a way for me to do this myself?

2) I prefer to have sonar contact lines drawn clearly on the NavMap, and even to have warship contacts done in a different color. I think this better reflects what a tracking team would be doing with contacts. Is there a way to get this style of sonar contact lines in RFB?

Thanks!

perisher · 07-28-07, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

That display tactic is a crime. And I blame the museum more than the USA or USN.

I agree entirely.

Beery · 07-28-07, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Roberts

I love RFB 1.31 except for two things:

1) I really like the way TMaru remapped the hotkeys to be more in line with SH3's layout. This was a real help for those of us who play both sims. Is there a way for me to do this myself?

Remapping the keys for SH3 players is good for SH3 players but I feared it would be confusing for everyone else. There is a way to do it, but it means learning about the commands.cfg file. It's not too hard, but it's not all that easy to explain either. I'm sure someone here can point you to a thread that discusses it..

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2) I prefer to have sonar contact lines drawn clearly on the NavMap, and even to have warship contacts done in a different color. I think this better reflects what a tracking team would be doing with contacts. Is there a way to get this style of sonar contact lines in RFB?

Yes. You'd have to disable the NoMapIFF mod - the part of RFB that controls the map contact displays. I'm sure others have details of how to do this as quite a few people like to see more info.

nimitstexan · 07-29-07, 12:41 AM

Yeah, I took out the NoIFF mod. Just look at the files mentioned in the readme for that mod, and do not install them . . .

Slainte Maith · 07-29-07, 06:24 AM

Is this for 1.3 now? The first posting says:

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This mod is to be used with Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific version 1.2. It may not work properly if you don't have the correct game version installed.

But it looks like it's been updated. But maybe it hasn't.

Paul Roberts · 07-29-07, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nimitstexan

Yeah, I took out the NoIFF mod. Just look at the files mentioned in the readme for that mod, and do not install them . . .

Thanks! And just removing these files from the Mod before installation won't conflict with anything else in it?

PeriscopeDepth · 07-29-07, 11:25 AM

Thanks beery, I hope you do come back to SH4 at some point.

PD

Beery · 07-29-07, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Slainte Maith

Is this for 1.3 now? The first posting says:

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This mod is to be used with Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific version 1.2. It may not work properly if you don't have the correct game version installed.

But it looks like it's been updated. But maybe it hasn't.

I didn't update all the post, but the mod is up to date.

nimitstexan · 07-30-07, 04:39 AM

One thing I noticed with the 3.1 (after having played the stock for a while), IJN ships were pretty much spotting the periscope, it seems, every time I stick it above water. For example, in the Palawan Passage single mission, after successfully sneaking into the middle of the formation unnoticed, the moment I stuck the scope up, every secondary battery with in range opened up.

Similarly, in my new career, I had small freighter spot my scope 2000 yds away while I was at 3-4 knots in a hazy overcast.

flymar · 07-30-07, 10:33 AM

Yes, they are shooting at me when they see periscope

and that's cool. No more sneaking scope up in the ports

This, the radar graphic refinement and slow to 4x when in ports are the major updates in 1.3:| Still invisible crew, still bathtub effect, still radar on when it's off... arrgh.
Hey Beery, do you play LOTRO? Can you reffer me at ther website? It's the only way to get trial serial No.:|

BTW: Topic name still says ...1.28

nimitstexan · 07-31-07, 01:21 AM

Well, i'd argue that a single cargo ship should have very little chance of spotitng a scope in rough seas and fog, especially when I looking through the scope can barely see them.

flymar · 07-31-07, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by nimitstexan

Well, i'd argue that a single cargo ship should have very little chance of spotitng a scope in rough seas and fog, especially when I looking through the scope can barely see them.

Just did one patrol with 1.31 and was spotted in port waters - sub barely under water and in that case I think it's 'real' that they were shooting at me.

Beery · 07-31-07, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by nimitstexan

Well, i'd argue that a single cargo ship should have very little chance of spotitng a scope in rough seas and fog, especially when I looking through the scope can barely see them.

I agree. In fact I'd go further. Contrary to many people's complaints that the 1.2 visual detection was set too low I'd say it was about spot-on. SH4 version 1.3 has catered to popular demand while making the game less realistic and less playable. The whole point of a periscope is that you should be able to pop it up within 1000 yards and most often it WON'T be seen. Lookouts are scanning the horizon and 360 degrees around the ship and all the way from the horizon to the ship. If the sub is stationary the chances of seeing a periscope are poor even at 20 yards in broad daylight in optimal conditions!

It should not be easy for a ship's crew to spot a periscope.

I don't even know how to mod this. I kept the AI visual abilities the same from 1.28 to 1.31 so that's not where the devs made this change.

This sort of stuff really pisses me off. I mean in my view this was something that didn't need fixing.

Beery · 07-31-07, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by flymar

Hey Beery, do you play LOTRO? Can you reffer me at ther website? It's the only way to get trial serial No.:|

If the email in your bio is still correct I've signed you up.

flymar · 07-31-07, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Beery

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Originally Posted by flymar

Hey Beery, do you play LOTRO? Can you reffer me at ther website? It's the only way to get trial serial No.:|

If the email in your bio is still correct I've signed you up.

I got it. Thank you. Now I have to wait till 1700

Darn job.

07-30-07, 10:33 AM	#1270
flymar Loader Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 86 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	Yes, they are shooting at me when they see periscope and that's cool. No more sneaking scope up in the ports This, the radar graphic refinement and slow to 4x when in ports are the major updates in 1.3:\| Still invisible crew, still bathtub effect, still radar on when it's off... arrgh. Hey Beery, do you play LOTRO? Can you reffer me at ther website? It's the only way to get trial serial No.:\| BTW: Topic name still says ...1.28 Last edited by flymar; 07-30-07 at 11:10 AM.

07-28-07, 05:50 PM	#1261
Paul Roberts Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 106 Downloads: 83 Uploads: 0	I love RFB 1.31 except for two things: 1) I really like the way TMaru remapped the hotkeys to be more in line with SH3's layout. This was a real help for those of us who play both sims. Is there a way for me to do this myself? 2) I prefer to have sonar contact lines drawn clearly on the NavMap, and even to have warship contacts done in a different color. I think this better reflects what a tracking team would be doing with contacts. Is there a way to get this style of sonar contact lines in RFB? Thanks!

07-29-07, 12:41 AM	#1264
nimitstexan Loader Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 87 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I took out the NoIFF mod. Just look at the files mentioned in the readme for that mod, and do not install them . . .

07-29-07, 11:25 AM	#1267
PeriscopeDepth Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,894 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Thanks beery, I hope you do come back to SH4 at some point. PD

07-30-07, 04:39 AM	#1269
nimitstexan Loader Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 87 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	One thing I noticed with the 3.1 (after having played the stock for a while), IJN ships were pretty much spotting the periscope, it seems, every time I stick it above water. For example, in the Palawan Passage single mission, after successfully sneaking into the middle of the formation unnoticed, the moment I stuck the scope up, every secondary battery with in range opened up. Similarly, in my new career, I had small freighter spot my scope 2000 yds away while I was at 3-4 knots in a hazy overcast.

07-31-07, 01:21 AM	#1271
nimitstexan Loader Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 87 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Well, i'd argue that a single cargo ship should have very little chance of spotitng a scope in rough seas and fog, especially when I looking through the scope can barely see them.