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[Fifi]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

You forgot me! Will my help was just a little bit.

Pardon me my friend of course yes, you very kindly helped too!

Originally Posted by Strothy

I have a question or rather something that seems fishy...

Sometimes it happens that I need like 30-40+ rounds of HE or AP from the deck gun to sink a single previously torpedoed merchant, which in the case of AP should result in a Swiss cheese-like merchant. Now today I met a rather resilient merchant who refused to sink no matter what.

The question now is am I ****ing up? Or is this a bug of some kind?
I'm almost always trying to aim for the waterline with AP and then HE to get the BBQ going. Ship in Question was... ehh nah IT IS a KS-M-KS-M-F-M-KS-M Merchant.

The Merchant took a single G7a (G39a) almost perfect to the midship, followed by ~ 60 HE and ~ 30 AP rounds, still afloat...
Those guys must have the best damage control on the Planet, I mean the guys on the USS Franklin (CV-13) were good, but they ain't got **** on this ship's crew.

(I'll try ramming maybe a Type VIIB to the broadside make a big enough hole to sink it )

Ah...you probably found the last remaining Uber ship with crazy hit points...from memory some OM ships had more than 4000 hit points!...while average ships hit points should be around 600. Had to lower all those ships hit points, but obviously i missed one...

Easy fix would be to find this ship in sea folder, open his .zon file and lower the 4000 hit points to a reasonable value as 600

[succerpunch]

I think I found another bug, it is September 1941 and I have not been given any turm upgrades or sub upgrades since the start of the war. Still stuck in a VIIB?

[Fifi]

Well that is SH4 bug coupled with OM mod.
The VIIB turm 2 should be available beginning 42.
If not, I’m afraid you have to start new career with desired boat, and same actual date, and manually get back your renown...

[Strothy]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Pardon me my friend of course yes, you very kindly helped too!



Ah...you probably found the last remaining Uber ship with crazy hit points...from memory some OM ships had more than 4000 hit points!...while average ships hit points should be around 600. Had to lower all those ships hit points, but obviously i missed one...

Easy fix would be to find this ship in sea folder, open his .zon file and lower the 4000 hit points to a reasonable value as 600

Well that does not seem to be one of the harder fixes, gonna do that thanks for the input!

[succerpunch]

It is march 1943 and I have been given no upgrades either if it is by the turm upgrade or boat upgrade or in the equipment menu. still the same stuff since 1939. Is there a way I could fix this without starting a new carrier?


EDIT:



I just got the turm upgrade but it removed alot of my crew, I dont have a radio room compartment anymore and in the upgrade menu I cant change the deck gun or anything but the aa guns and emblem.

[succerpunch]

It was the turm ungrade issue, the tutorial on how to fix it must be rewritten, It is so confussing to read and do. If anyone wants to do it and do it with pictures of even video form that will help alot.


I have done it but I didnt do it properly, in the equipment upgrade menu in port it doesnt show up (the second flak gun) but i can asign crew to it and I cant see it in external cam and on the damage screen it is there but I cannot change it .

[succerpunch]

Originally Posted by succerpunch

It was the turm ungrade issue, the tutorial on how to fix it must be rewritten, It is so confussing to read and do. If anyone wants to do it and do it with pictures of even video form that will help alot.


I have done it but I didnt do it properly, in the equipment upgrade menu in port it doesnt show up (the second flak gun) but i can asign crew to it and I cant see it in external cam and on the damage screen it is there but I cannot change it .

Third update, so i got it working from just messing about, Step 7 doesnt make sense because I do not have a UPCInitial folder, when I loaded my save, my hydrophone was upgraded to the crystal one and I had been given BOLD 1 even though I did not have it before.

[Fifi]

Glad you solved it
I knew you could do it
That’s the only big downside point of this whole OM mod unfortunately

[succerpunch]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Glad you solved it
I knew you could do it
That’s the only big downside point of this whole OM mod unfortunately

You sound like my dad "I knew you could do it"


I just wish there was a program that could automate it, like you create the save and the dummy file and you just tell the program where each AUPU is and it does the file editing for you.

[Jeff-Groves]

There's not a whole lot of people doing programming for the SH Games now days.
Could it be done? Yep.
Will it be done? Probably not.

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

There's not a whole lot of people doing programming for the SH Games now days.
Could it be done? Yep.
Will it be done? Probably not.

In all cases, certainly not by me!
Know nothing about programming

[Jeff-Groves]

Give me the details and I may be able to do something.
Got lots of time during this lock down period.

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Give me the details and I may be able to do something.
Got lots of time during this lock down period.

That’s again very kind of you proposing your help
My english is not that good enough to explain the details of those upgrade fails in OM, but I’m quite certain our friend Propbeanie would tell you successfully

[propbeanie]

If I remember correctly (now, seriously, how often has ~that~ happened lately... ) - but from memory (and correct me if I'm wrong please), there are equipment mis-matches between the turms and attached equipment (aka: "appurtenances"), such as radar masts and the like. The Pacific side had the same issue, but with OM, it is a herculean task to match everything. There are a LOT of turms and a LOT of appurtenances... Wintergardens do not help, I'm sure... Don't forget that most of the subs in OM are all set to the same "UpgradeClass" setting in their upcge files, so you generally do not get submarine upgrades.

[succerpunch]

A program that just does the file editing for you because that is the most difficult part for me. Also how come I cannot get equipment upgrades. When I fixed my turm upgrade issue, I had BOLD 1 and a upgraded Hydrophone that I did not have access to before. How does one unlock equipment upgrades and how does one get a new sub, I have been getting medals for every patrol but the game wont give me a new sub yet. It is the middle of 1942 btw.