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Old 12-17-07, 03:06 PM   #1
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Crash to Desktop

Kaluens,

This is an old issue. BUT I cant find any posts using the search engine in regards to this. So...

Whats up with the crash to desktop while in mid combat with a convoy?

I can reload the game fine but it gets to a certain stroke of the clock and CRASH!!

No matter what I try, where I run to hide in my boat, the inevitable crash still comes.

And yes it seems to happen when submerged.

Im am running GWX 2, SH3 with just Torp dmg mod and a uboat skin mod and thats it. I believe I have had this issue occurr when I didnt use any mods.

Luckily I save alot and only have to go back maybe 1 save to get my game back but still... would be nice to avert this nonsense.
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Old 12-17-07, 04:04 PM   #2
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When you get CTD'd a pop up box will appear saying SilentHunter had to close

There is a " click here " line below
Click that and will give you the error

Simdata
Sim.act
Kernel.dll

Etc

That will help narrow it down
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Old 12-17-07, 07:42 PM   #3
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Kaluen BBWooly,

There is no way on gods green earth that I can possibly write all that crap down!

Hundreds of lines of gobbledeegook in a teeny tiny window with no way to cut and paste all of it. Heres what I could get from my event error log dunno if it helps at all.

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Hang
Event Category: (101)
Event ID: 1002
Date: 12/17/2007
Time: 7:24:36 PM
User: N/A
Computer:
Description:
Hanging application sh3.exe, version 1.4.0.1, hang module hungapp, version 0.0.0.0, hang address 0x00000000.
For
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 48 61 6e 67 ion Hang
0010: 20 20 73 68 33 2e 65 78 sh3.ex
0018: 65 20 31 2e 34 2e 30 2e e 1.4.0.
0020: 31 20 69 6e 20 68 75 6e 1 in hun
0028: 67 61 70 70 20 30 2e 30 gapp 0.0
0030: 2e 30 2e 30 20 61 74 20 .0.0 at
0038: 6f 66 66 73 65 74 20 30 offset 0
0040: 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 0000000

Ill be glad to send the other thing if u can tell me how to copy and paste allllll that stuff.
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Old 12-18-07, 12:13 PM   #4
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Ok I have been watching carfeully and it seesm to be an attacking issue. For example In mid convoy, I am lining up a shot on a Empire type freighter and a Dido class. I shoot the empire, he sinks, one eel. Im lining up the Dido class and thats when I CTD with the above error. So what I did was, I didnt shoot the empire and just sank the Dido class and NO CTD. So go figure. At that point I guessed the convoy was bugged maybe or that ship...so I sailed away leaving a completely unescorted convoy ripe with juicy targets to steam away.

I proceeded with my mission with no further incident till meeting up with the next convoy. After sinking an escort and chasing after another wammo CTD. So I reloaded a save from 15 mins earlier and that CTD. So I realoaded one from 20 mins b4 that and it also crashed. How is this thing following me back through time and F'ing up my earlier saves. WTF!!
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Old 01-03-08, 06:26 PM   #5
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I've had the same problem. Almost to a "T".

The game has crashed four times on four consecutive nights. I have yet to complete my first patrol! Very frustrating as I've been a couple of hours into the patrol & looking forward to some serious convoy action.

Each time the game has crashed I've been submerged. Each has occured during a convoy attack. I read up on this last night, prior to the last crash. Someone mentioned a stock SH3 bug that CTD's while doing crew management when submerged. I believe the second to last crash occured when I did a "submerged cruise" command. Last night it crashed when I was manually managing the crew. I've forgotten the circumstances of the first couple of crashes, other than that I was involved with a convoy attack. Last night I meant to save the error details but I can't find out where the log is stored. (Anyone who knows, tell me how to find them and I'll post the pertinent details.)

I'm also running GWX 2 and the only other mods I have are a couple of sub skins.

I'm sailing in a TypeVIIB.

I don't recall this many CTD's with any other mod enabled or with the stock game.

I certainly hope that help is on the way as I spent a LOT of time getting GWX set up. It appears to be a fantastic mod and I'd hate to have to remove it.

(Update: I finally finished my first patrol. I made sure to rollback SH3 Commander, then I uninstalled/installed a few GWX mods as well as the Torpedo Damage Final. No troubles, but I saved often, always while on the surface.)

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Old 01-04-08, 11:44 AM   #6
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I dont know if this will help... you might already have done these things.

Shut down explorer and antivirus. Defrag computer. I usually defrag before every game. Add memory to computer if you havent already. Get a 512mb video card.
I hope some of this helps. I used to have the same problems until I switched my video card. Also get rid of unnecessary programs that take up your computers memory.
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Old 01-20-08, 02:05 PM   #7
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For what it's worth, I am getting the same corrupt save file crash as others have stated above. Perhaps one out of ten times I can load a saved file. Also, I've never been able to task switch out of Silent Hunter III without a crash for the life of my playing the game and my system is well above the required specs.

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Old 01-20-08, 04:08 PM   #8
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Old 01-20-08, 05:07 PM   #9
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Old 01-27-08, 11:47 AM   #10
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This has gotten much worse. I was on a rather successful patrol and did several (read: five) saves along the way while transiting to my patrol zone. I exited the game and when I tried to load my saves, I was greeted with a crash just as the "not so long ago" screen came up. I tried approximately 6-8 times per save, working my way back after giving up on each level until the only save I was able to recover was the "in port before patrol" one. It's frustrating enough to make me want to roll back to an earlier GWX just so I can play a game and have confidence in re-loading it later. For what it's worth, this was strictly with SH3 1.4b with GWX 2 overtop and no other mods. I've since applied other mods like OLC GUI and they have seemingly no effect on how a save game is loaded. Help!
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Old 01-27-08, 01:34 PM   #11
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Kaluen Dreamer,

Dont ya just luv the way the CTD follows you back in time! Infecting previous saves. Seems incredible really.

I never found out what caused the CTD's but they have since stopped for me. I did have to reload all the way back to port as you did but when I redid my patrol I was able to complete it.

I took no corrective action. Basically I ignored it and hoped it would go away. I am currently in 1943 of the same career and have not had a CTD for many patrols now. Go figure...

All I can say is hang in there eventually one of the L33t folks here will figure it out.
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Old 01-27-08, 08:17 PM   #12
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I was having many of the same CTD's and mentioned them on another thread (under "Howlin'"). From the little response, I figured it was either just me or an old, resolved issue. The Brotherhood of Crashers in this thread gives me a warm feeling of being in this together and a willingness to keep hanging in there.

I'm now running End-it-all to reduce running apps, then going to task manager (Cont-Alt-Del) and cutting a few more processes (like i-tunes, apple mobile, i-pod, network things, Skype, scheduled tasks etc - all easily identifyable apps. There are others that I could kill, but I don't recognise them by file name, so I leave them.)
I then go to connections and disable internet. Obviously if I ever get good enough to contemplate multiplayer, I won't do that.

All this is over the top of a cleaned & defragged Hard drive (just using System Tools in Accessories - nothing fancy there).

My frequency of crashes does seem to have diminished quite a bit, so for what its worth, this may help someone.

My thinking was that an internet download from some app updater may be kicking the sytem to CTD. I have no proof of this, but it couldn't hurt, right? Anyway, its become part of my routine and gives me the pleasant illusion that I am in control.
Good luck to all the frustrated ones going through the uninstall/reinstall routine (I only did that 4 times, so I empathise).

Thankfully, I've never had an armed trawler crash, but crashing when closing in on the Hood (in 1939 on my first patrol!) and never being able to find the taskforce again remains one of my greatest frustrations!
Good hunting all
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PS. Do any of you know why fully trained Watch Officers are never able to see smoke on the horizon - only ships when they come within visual range? (Please point me to the right thread for this sort of question & I won't annoy by taking this one off-subject. Thanks.):hmm:
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As for the smoke on the horizon.
Seems, the AI units spot it.
At lest in what I'm testing now.
But Sub crew does not.

I use a test "What if" for this.

There does seem to be a save game, save career issue.
I have not seen it myself.
And I save under the worst conditions on purpose.

I save while being DCed, right under convoys,
you name all the places not to save?

I do it.

Each system seems to react differently.
And I'm a firm believer in DISCONNECT from the Internet 1st!!!
If you have wireless?
Shut down your wireless card!
Reduce as many running numbnnuts apps as possible.
Go 2 gigs of ram.
Get several patrols in a new career BEFORE adding mods.
Even the GWX mods.

Watch time compression.
I don't understand why but...
I'm pretty damned sure somethings are getting screwed up by it.

Oh, and a new Armed Trawler Fix is being tested.
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I used to have many CTD's as well and I seemed to have fixed it doing this:

"Started browsing CTD threads again and someone suggested changing settings in the audio console, I changed the digital output from 48Hz to 96Hz. (Audigy 2 Platinum)I guess it's possible I once changed those audio settings which were than returned to default when I did a clean OS install."

For me the above fix solved my CTD problem.

This is from another forum, if you would like to read the entire thread:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...565#5601098565

I am having problems again today but this has something to do with overclocking I think, should have never started to do that. Even though I clocked everything back to factory settings I now have frequent game crashes, not only GXW 2 but also other games. I hope I didn't fry anything.
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Old 01-28-08, 09:51 AM   #15
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I've done another complete wipe and re-install and this seems to have solved my problems. I've loaded three different save games now three times each and haven't had a single crash. Wooo!
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