US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Almost every fact check of what the Donald has said is false. If Trump is so dedicated to help his "friends" with oil, why does he sell the lease to China.
He just wants to destroy all that others built up before, scorched earth policy on his way out.

He's CRAZY, man ! He's crazeeey!

[Catfish]

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@Rockstar no angels anywhere i know, but Trump just implementing what others decided before? ... no, he wants to p.. off everyone who is not one of his yes-men, this is a personal thing for him.

[mapuc]

Are you like me ?

Where you are divided into two parts

The first one is saying to you, what evil thing Trump may come up with, while the other side say...cool down..yes Trump may yell on his way out of the White house, but that's all.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

He may be on the way out but he'll never concede and will continue to attack for years to come.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

He may be on the way out but he'll never concede and will continue to attack for years to come.

Al Gore didnt concede until the day before the electors met when it became obvious to Al they didnt give a rats patoot about the hanging chad.



As for this election. The voter fraud conspiracy will be just as useful to Republicans as the collusion conspiracy was to the Democrats in terms of swaying voter opinion. You say for years to come, I'll give it until November 8th 2022. Since this election was fairly close I dont think there will be any 'mandates' proclaimed and pushed through by Democrats this time around. In fact I'd wager Schumer, Polosi, Schiff and whats her face will probably be laying pretty low trying to stay out of sight out of mind for the next two years.

[Buddahaid]

True for the GOP but Trump will not fade away and bleat about the massive voter fraud forever.

[Catfish]

Not if there's forensic evidence.

[Buddahaid]

He doesn't need evidence. He has his belief he was cheated which is all he needs.

[Catfish]

What i meant is that forensic evidence may also put him into jail, and either make him shut up, or a martyr.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Catfish

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@Rockstar no angels anywhere i know, but Trump just implementing what others decided before? ... no, he wants to p.. off everyone who is not one of his yes-men, this is a personal thing for him.

Congress is the one who lifted the oil export ban. Congress is the one that approved the opening of ANWR area 1002. The executive branch authorizes the department responsible for enforcement to make what the representatives of 'we the people' want to happen. And I do use that term 'we the people' loosely. As this thread exposes most dont have a clue what their representatives are doing nor do they seem to care. Conspiracies theories and regurgitating the latest gossip of he said she said or hair comb over's are apparently much more important.

[Rockstar]

Stop the presses! I forgot, I think Gore actually conceded the election soon after the initial results. But later changed his mind, lawyer-ed up and kept filing protests until the Supreme court told him to pack sand. It wasn't until the 13th of December that he conceded for a second time for the same election.


Another kewl story. President Andrew Jackson shot a man in the head and killed him after the man had published slanderous remarks about Jackson's wife. Ahh the good ol'days. lol

[August]

No such thing as voter fraud, nope.

Two Los Angeles men have been charged with voter fraud after attempting to submit 8,000 ballot applications for nonexistent or deceased voters.Hawthorne, California, mayoral candidate Carlos Antonio De Bourbon Montenegro, 53, and Marcos Raul Arevalo, 34, planned the effort in an attempt to help Montenegro win his bid for mayor, Los Angeles District attorney announced Tuesday.
The county is accusing Montenegro of submitting more than 8,000 fraudulent ballot applications on behalf of "fictitious, nonexistent or deceased" voters between July 1 and Oct. 15 of this year, according to a felony complaint.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cal...t-applications

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

[...]
Another kewl story. President Andrew Jackson shot a man in the head and killed him after the man had published slanderous remarks about Jackson's wife. Ahh the good ol'days. lol

Today the president plays golf four times a week and actively hinders to implement measures with now 1869 deaths per day. That's progress

Good that the states gave up on Trump's advice and do something themselves.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Congress is the one who lifted the oil export ban. Congress is the one that approved the opening of ANWR area 1002. The executive branch authorizes the department responsible for enforcement to make what the representatives of 'we the people' want to happen. And I do use that term 'we the people' loosely. As this thread exposes most dont have a clue what their representatives are doing nor do they seem to care. Conspiracies theories and regurgitating the latest gossip of he said she said or hair comb over's are apparently much more important.

Seems to be right, though i would deny the US congress expertise on that matter. There is no doubt why this was being announced and done right now by Trump. Hoping to get Alaskan voters for him while promising economical boost, but did not help much it seems.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...rilling-397006

It is about spreading chaos, desinformation

"President Donald Trump is trying to turn America’s free and fair election into a muddled mess of misinformation, specious legal claims and baseless attacks on the underpinnings of the nation’s democracy. The resulting chaos and confusion that has created isn’t the byproduct of Trump’s strategy following his defeat to Democrat Joe Biden. The chaos and confusion is the strategy.
Trump’s blizzard of attacks on the election are allowing him to sow discontent and doubt among his most loyal supporters, leaving many with the false impression that he is the victim of fraudulent voting." It is all about his ego.
https://apnews.com/article/election-...b077d25f63d2f9

Regarding Alaska, the whole region is a mere no-man's-land when it comes to seismic exploration and to come to grips where the oil is, if there is some at all. Besides there is not exactly a shortage of oil to expect in the next decades, at the moment all sit on their oil and cannot sell it, it is not just because of Corona but because of a general excess capacity. Russia's economy is amost crumbling because of low oil prices, as are other oil-exporting nations.

My personal gripe is making the rest of natural refuges available for industrial exploitation, thus destroying it to make money. Not only in Alaska of course.

[eddie]

I told you it would be fun to watch Giuliani in action,lol




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