US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[Dowly]

Yeah, no that's not what the video shows. The guy wearing the Arizona shirt goes after the guy with the megaphone and grabs it from him, and it is at this point the guy who gets knocked out comes in and starts repeatedly shoving the megaphone guy.


It really isn't up for interpretation.

[Skybird]

Farewell present to Trump from Asia:

15 countries sign treaty on world's biggest free trade zone, covering one third of the globe's total economic power. Also, it extends China's influence in the region.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54949260

[August]

Originally Posted by Dowly

It really isn't up for interpretation.

That's not your decision to make. Besides even if your take was accurate stomping on an unconscious persons head is a crime.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by August

That's not your decision to make.

Everyone with an IQ over average room temperature can make that decision.

Besides even if your take was accurate stomping on an unconscious persons head is a crime.

Sure, I'm not a fan of beating someone who's down. The problem I have with the article is that it makes it seem like the guy was assaulted without provocation which is BS.

[August]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Everyone with an IQ over average room temperature can make that decision.

Don't confuse decisions with opinion. Everyone has the latter but you have absolutely no right to decide how anyone else can interpret what they see.

Sure, I'm not a fan of beating someone who's down. The problem I have with the article is that it makes it seem like the guy was assaulted without provocation which is BS.

Yeah I doubt your sincerity. You continue to ignore the simple fact that BLM and Antifa were only there for provocation. They came down to the Trump rally to commit violence. Trump supporters weren't there for that reason and those that did get involved in it were pushed into it by the animals you like to defend.

Now maybe if I were to stick a bullhorn into your ear and start screaming taunts and insults at you then you might just give me a little push back too. Wouldn't it be just the height of irony if some European busybody were to claim you were the aggressor because you did.

[u crank]

Come on guys. What does people fighting in the street have to do with political discussion?

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by August

Now maybe if I were to stick a bullhorn into your ear and start screaming taunts and insults at you then you might just give me a little push back too.

Which is not what happened according to the video. Stop making things up, August.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by u crank

Come on guys. What does people fighting in the street have to do with political discussion?

Unfortunately this will become the norm if and when Trump wins

[August]

Originally Posted by u crank

Come on guys. What does people fighting in the street have to do with political discussion?

How does it not? Violence is the main tool of political oppression. That's what the left is trying to do here. Groups like BLM and Antifa are just their storm troopers.

[skidman]

"He won..." It seems that even the ignorant in the WH has to start accepting reality. And the same slowly but steadily appears to apply to some fellows here on Subsim.

Looking at that MAGA rally of 10.000 Proud Boys and other nutheads in DC yesterday (1 Mio participants? Teach McEnany how to count!), and the speeches delivered there by freaks like M. Taylor Greene and Alex Jones, I'd say to see the light of truth the Trumpists still have the Himalayas to climb.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by August

How does it not? Violence is the main tool of political oppression. That's what the left is trying to do here. Groups like BLM and Antifa are just their storm troopers.

Possibly so but arguing over who started a fight in the street is not political discussion. Nobody wins or is enlightened in the least.

With all that is going on post election there has to be better things to talk about.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by skidman

"He won..." It seems that even the ignorant in the WH has to start accepting reality.

[Borat]...NOT!!![/Borat]

[August]

Originally Posted by u crank

Possibly so but arguing over who started a fight in the street is not political discussion. Nobody wins or is enlightened in the least.

Fair point but it is an increasing part of the lefts tactics to blame the victim. That should not be ignored in the interest of maintaining forum civility especially with someone who just wants to stir up trouble.

With all that is going on post election there has to be better things to talk about.

Yes there are other things to talk about ucrank but I disagree that any of them are better or more important than this topic. The attacks on trump supporters are pure political oppression that is being condoned and often promoted by the same people who may be running our government soon not to mention certain people here on this forum.

I'm not waiting until the bricks start coming through my windows before I speak up against it. I don't want anyone to be surprised when my side eventually pushes back against it either.

[mapuc]

A comment on this pro-Trump demonstration and the fight between BLM supporters and Trump supporters.

In the Danish news I could read the reason should be BLM and the radical left wings had attacked people in this Pro-Trump demonstration. This according to Trump who was quoted by Danish Press.

An hour later I could read the opposite in the Swedish news. Here it was Trump supporters who had start the fight by attacking BLM supporters.

What's correct here. Unable to watch video(computer off)

Markus

[u crank]

Originally Posted by skidman

"He won..." It seems that even the ignorant in the WH has to start accepting reality. And the same slowly but steadily appears to apply to some fellows here on Subsim.

Ok if that's what you think then maybe it is time for you to move on and instead talk about the new guy. Any thoughts?

This is interesting.

This year’s presidential election showed that slightly more than half of America no longer wants a president who speaks to them openly and often. They don’t want a chief executive who tweets, regularly takes contentious interviews, routinely answers questions from hostile reporters, and does freestyle stand-up at his boisterous rallies.

Instead, they want a fragile, cosseted figurehead — a museum piece — who gives few speeches (all shopworn and canned), avoids tough questions from the press, and utters nothing without a teleprompter. They want T. S. Eliot’s hollow man, a headpiece filled with straw. They want a basement candidate who will be a bunker president. They want Joe Biden.

https://spectator.org/joe-biden-base...er-presidency/

One would think that Joe Biden would be beaming with pride at winning and would want to openly discuss that and other important subjects. One would think that he would relish having a good back and forth with reporters both hostile and friendly. The question is why not?

Biden’s first appearance on November 9 — just after the news media had anointed him as president — gives us an idea of how he will handle the press going forward. He spoke for 10 minutes from a teleprompter, answered a few softball questions from pre-screened reporters about Trump’s refusal to concede, and then shuffled off the stage.

Will this kind of thing persist throught Biden's administration?

What we have of course is a complete 180 degree turn by Trump's detractors in the MSM who now are shamelessly willing to protect the President of their choice from any and all harmful reporting.