US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Catfish

^ Nah come on, it may be a shame, but T. is not the man or villain enough to bedevil him that way, not worth the effort.

He is intelligent or besser "gerissen" or "bauernschlau" enough to still have 50 percent of americans as supporters. It was hard enough to learn two strange languages, i cannot understand what happens and why. I gave up after Trump and brexit. Let it go, you won't change it, you will only amass hate if you try to understand it, relax. Humans are idiots, look at China, look at North Korea, at Russia, live with the facts, relax.

I do not imply that he knows what he is doing, I did not mean an intenmtion to push the US inbto that fascist reigme direction. But I have ofteh said by now I see him not as the cause but as the symptom of things. And in this bigger view his appearance and the fact that so many forgive him his unacceptable failings and brutal behaviour and nevertheless even support and defend him when he denies realty and calls it a lie while it bveing rubbe din his face, show that this shift towards the brutlaization of potlics is beign accepted. I do not grant him the brains and wittiness to know this or that by plan - man, he needs a crib sheet to memorize even profane outbursts like the one I showedon that picture (he later told it into the camera word by word), that is not a sign of sovereignty or a bright mind or capable memory. Simple truth is: he is a mental and intellectual dud. And a psychiatrically noticable personality with striking deficits and problems.



Its just for reasons of probability that a blind hen picking the ground all day long, occasionally hits a corn too. By accident.



That 50% of Ameifans support btw most likely is a myth. Not even every fifrth citizen elgibale to votel cared tio give him his vote last time. Most seem to not care, or have turned away in resignation. Thats how it seems to me. Likely that the past three years however have activated the polticla will again. And this may be where the impeahcment, even when fialign, will mount a threat on Trump: it may tip the baölance in faovur iof Demcoreats regarding the many protest and undecided and alway-scangign voters who feel no party loyalty at all. If so I epxect such an effect being against little Cesar, not in his favour. And this could become a problem at the next elections. Two defeats serving as warning shots he already has received recently.

[mapuc]

I may have misunderstood it.

A few days ago I saw 10-15 sec. of Sondland's testify in this public hearing

Where he used the word impression and some names.

Later I heard The President having this press meeting
(link in my former post)
For me it doesn't sum up.

Is there something I have misunderstood ?

Markus

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Skybird

The Russians could not have caused greater destruction by launching a nuclear strike. Getting their useful idiot into the WH was the greatest victory of theirs ever. A triumph.

And there you are wrong Skybird. The Russian victory was getting Americans and the MSM to believe that they, the Russians could actually effect the outcome of an American election. That they could put a man of their choice in the White House. After that anything is possible.

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Trump & August 2020 !



Because they speak the same language and do the same tricks. Vote two buddies for a grrreater (tm) future!

First thing I would do as Trumps VP is tell Germany that they don't get their aid unless they force you do something productive.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by em2nought

I'm pretty sure a strong case can be made for Trump having absolutely no fear of being beaten in an election by creepy Joe Biden. LOL As a Republican who has appeared in porn, I think I could take Biden in an election.

I agree, I never saw Biden as a big election threat. But it does seem to be the presumption of the whistleblowers and those of the Schiff Show. That Trump made the call to gather dirt instead of a genuine investigation into, nepotisim, conflict of interest, and why the Bidens were associating with the well known corrupt Ukrainian company Burisma. That to me is in the publics interests.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by August

First thing I would do as Trumps VP is tell Germany that they don't get their aid unless they force you do something productive.

And I hope you would get the appropriate reply. German business in the uS creates and maintains almost 700 thousand jobs (4th rank amongst foreign investors in the US). 40% of these are in industrial priorucftion, givj g Germany 2nd rank in thsi category. Financial investments in the US economy is beyond 400 billion (4th rank). 5300 companies in the US would not survive without german investors (again 4th rank). Germany is 6th largest export target for the US.



Tax wins for the US state due to German investments is accordingly.



I agree on the military and defence budget problem, Germany's policy here is undefendable and lousy. But the ties between nations go beyond just the military dimension. BTW, it was the target of US polic after WWII to turn the germnan into the militarily impotent dwarfes that they now are. As the saying oes: NATO was founded to keep the Sovjets out, the US in, and the Germans down.



Its not that simplistic and one-sided and easy as the lil' boy always paints it so that his small mind can handle the bits and bytes of the situation. His remarks on how baldy the German eocnomy abuses the US, are running jokes over here. Some commentor wanted to hang them up on display in a museum for surrealistic art.

[August]

Well I don't recall him saying much about Germany at all but i'm sure in his mind you are pretty small potatoes.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Catfish

^ Nah come on, it may be a shame, but T. is not the man or villain enough to bedevil him that way, not worth the effort.

He is intelligent or besser "gerissen" or "bauernschlau" enough to still have 50 percent of americans as supporters.

Please be kind and remember who the alternative was, Grandma Nixon.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by August

Well I don't recall him saying much about Germany at all but i'm sure in his mind you are pretty small potatoes.

That isstrange because in Europe we recall him having attacked unfair German economy strength and unfair car exports a lot. Point is if he strikes Germany like he wanted to bluff China, the reaction will not just come from Germany, but the whole EU economy space. And that you will feel. The China adventure does not go well, and the sam attempt with EU will not go as well, too. 27% of the global economic output is a force that even the US cannot afford to take easy. And many US voters of Lil boy already now feel the sting from the Chinese retaliation. The claimed economic groeth in the US is not convincing, but looks to me as standing on feet of clay.Short time jobs soaring are not socially selfmaintaining but a mortgage on the future. Deficit soaring. Debts exploding. China outmanouvering the US in lil boys trade war.


The problem is that these things will not get solved by your mighty military. And economically you are only one amongst three or four.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Skybird

. The claimed economic groeth in the US is not convincing, but looks to me as standing on feet of clay.

you might have a point there.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
The Federal Reserve should get our interest rates down to ZERO, or less, and we should then start to refinance our debt. INTEREST COST COULD BE BROUGHT WAY DOWN, while at the same time substantially lengthening the term. We have the great currency, power, and balance sheet.....
6:42 AM · Sep 11, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

Like I said before zero or negative interest rates are a last ditch effort to stimulate economic growth. Batten down the hatches.

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

That isstrange because in Europe we recall him having attacked unfair German economy strength and unfair car exports a lot. Point is if he strikes Germany like he wanted to bluff China, the reaction will not just come from Germany, but the whole EU economy space. And that you will feel. The China adventure does not go well, and the sam attempt with EU will not go as well, too. 27% of the global economic output is a force that even the US cannot afford to take easy. And many US voters of Lil boy already now feel the sting from the Chinese retaliation. The claimed economic groeth in the US is not convincing, but looks to me as standing on feet of clay.Short time jobs soaring are not socially selfmaintaining but a mortgage on the future. Deficit soaring. Debts exploding. China outmanouvering the US in lil boys trade war.


The problem is that these things will not get solved by your mighty military. And economically you are only one amongst three or four.

Yeah I also seem to recall that you once gleefully claimed that we would be buried by Germany and the mighty European Union by now. but well over a decade later and not only ain't it happened yet but the British are rightly bailing on the whole clown car. I laugh at arrogant European know-it-alls who have been prognosticating our imminent doom for going on three centuries and they ain't been right yet, nor will they ever be.

[Skybird]

I am exclusively relating to Lil' Boy's threats at the German economy and the European economy in the past two, three years, the trade war with China that strangely goes so very differently than he expected, and the US economic numbers of the same time. You may want to see a neurologist and have your memory checked, maybe it is some early degenerative brain process going on.

You give a lot of quotes by me, on past economy discussions now or some post above on what I said about crooks at the helm of rogue states who start wars only because their families are save from retaliation and the blood toll is always paid by the others only, and for some strange reason you forget to quote them in the context they once were given in , and you do so since as long as I know you, to give them the twist you desire. Making noise, "anpöbeln", and not caring for the truth of claims and quotes and remarks - its clear to see why little Cesar can count on guys like you, since you have so much in common. The only question is whom learned from whom.

As Gary Cooper once put it in a movie: "When I was not higher than my hound's tail, I had a little tin soldier, about [a finger's length] high. And one day I lost it, and I cried. My mother said: stop boy, one day that soldier is bound to show up. And she was right. You're back."

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by August

I laugh at arrogant European know-it-alls who have been prognosticating our imminent doom for going on three centuries and they ain't been right yet, nor will they ever be.

I'm sure if it ever were to occur those Europeans would come gleefully to our aid with their own reverse version of the Marshall Plan.

[Catfish]

^ oh yes i try to imagine ww2 or the immediate time after with Trump as US president

[Tchocky]

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