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Old 01-25-17, 09:33 AM   #631
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Trump wants to investigate the voter fraud he can't shut up about.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...27824903090176
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...28768227217408

Interesting to see, if he is able to accept the result in the event it doesn't show fraud.
True or false, it will finally put that idea to rest. If there is widespread fraud then we have 4 years to sort it out. I believe voting should be done with ID only IMO.
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And that's why Obama sucked. Trying to get the wrong things done.
Concur 100%.
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I believe voting should be done with ID only IMO.
Yep, I agree.
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Old 01-25-17, 09:45 AM   #634
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Which were?
I guess building a wall is the most reasonable thing and right thing to do?
Trump wants to distinguish himself by any means as a doer, and puts up quite a show. Maybe, just maybe it really works out
Obama really did much of nothing. Affordable Healthcare Act. That is about it. I can not think of any earth shattering legislation during his term. I could be wrong but I do not remember any of importance. The remaining time was spent under the radar apologizing.
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Old 01-25-17, 09:50 AM   #635
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Yep, I agree.
My BIL was not able to vote once. He arrived to vote and was told he already voted. He asked if they a ID was checked. Nope. He could not vote. If anything, perhaps this investigation will produce a standard for every state concerning rules/regulations/types of machines for voting. The vote to allow voting(Dems) with out ID was obviously stacking the deck in their favor for this campaign of 45th POTUS.
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Trump wants to investigate the voter fraud he can't shut up about.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...27824903090176
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...28768227217408

Interesting to see, if he is able to accept the result in the event it doesn't show fraud.
Yeah, if he's certain there were millions of fraudulent votes, he should insist on an independent investigation. I doubt there will be any significant fraud, but who knows.
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Which were?
I guess building a wall is the most reasonable thing and right thing to do?
Trump wants to distinguish himself by any means as a doer, and puts up quite a show. Maybe, just maybe it really works out
Yes, stopping illegal immigration is a must and if it takes a wall and jailing a few dozen city mayors to achieve it, that's fine.
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Yes, stopping illegal immigration is a must and if it takes a wall and jailing a few dozen city mayors to achieve it, that's fine.
See with him, he is from Germany. Here in Germany we are basing on the assumption that state sovereignty over territory and borders, and our constitution's demand to protect these, are a crime. Thats why our government's ongoing violation of the constituion is considered to be legal, even an imperative. Of course, moral perfectionists that we are, we demand you Americans to make the same mistakes like we do. We show you the way!

For the consequences, people demanding the dismantling of these legal rules in Germany, usually do not feel responsible for. Paying is expected to be taken care of by others. Even more - we are demanded to like it.

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See with him, he is from Germany. Here in Germany we are basing on the assumption that state sovereignty over territory and borders, and our constitution's demand to protect these, are a crime. Thats why our government's ongoing violation of the constituion is considered to be legal, even an imperative. Of course, moral perfectionists that we are, we demand you Americans to make the same mistakes like we do. We show you the way!

For the consequences, people demanding the dismantling of these legal rules in Germany, usually do not feel responsible for. Paying is expected to be taken care of by others. Even more - we are demanded to like it.

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It is no different here in the US.
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Obama really did much of nothing. Affordable Healthcare Act. That is about it. I can not think of any earth shattering legislation during his term. I could be wrong but I do not remember any of importance. The remaining time was spent under the radar apologizing.
In Obama's defence he did manage to reduce the number of his fellow brothers in faith from that dreadful Naval base in Cuba

Did you notice this little item on Obama's bucket list:http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...911836,00.html

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as for Trump's call for voter fraud ... some people are reading this as a way to close the sanctuary cities.

He's a mover and a shaker that's for sure.

How are ya'll doing at work with the Trump name ... so far I at least have the boss on my side,
but I don't know how much longer I can hold out being pro-Trump.
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Purge the voter rolls, 3 million false voters, obey infowars!

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In Obama's defence he did manage to reduce the number of his fellow brothers in faith from that dreadful Naval base in Cuba

Did you notice this little item on Obama's bucket list:http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...911836,00.html



as for Trump's call for voter fraud ... some people are reading this as a way to close the sanctuary cities.

He's a mover and a shaker that's for sure.

How are ya'll doing at work with the Trump name ... so far I at least have the boss on my side,
but I don't know how much longer I can hold out being pro-Trump.
Obama campaigned on closing Gitmo right up to the time he was finally nominated and provided the REAL briefing on Gitmo as well as Iraq. Obama changed his demeanor on both.

If I'm not mistake the 221 million was already approved by Congress. Not sure why it appears to be a last shot across the bow. It does not appear to be as such. I have not really looking into the $221. Real question is why? It is handing over of cash like this that Trump is looking to stop.

Correct, sanctuary cites were specifically targeted for allowing a vote without ID. Very blatant. This tactic only embolden the base that supported Trump. In short, really forced their hand to stop being the silent majority and go vote.

I'm not a 100% Trump supporter. Although Trump is our President and I will support as best I can. I was never a Hillary supporter. I do not say much to many concerning Trump and what has happened as well as what lies ahead. I only look to correct the record for those that post fake news and incorrect facts. I have had to unfollow a few FB friends as the lunacy is getting out of hand. I really do not recall seeing so much crack-headed news and articles issued that only look to create issues, divide and uncertainty.
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Purge the voter rolls, 3 million false voters, obey infowars!
There are quite a few site that one should simply not visit. Infowars is on the top of the list.

As someone has stated, if the Dem where gun-ho on investigating Russia and the election then investigating possible voter fraud is not off the table for Trump.

Personally, I hope gobs of frigging cash are not spent on it!!!!! I do not think the fraud was widespread. Is there fraud? Certainly. Three million? I'm inclined not to think so.
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it is much more likely that there was massive voter fraud than that Trump is a Russian spy.

Yet the same people who laugh off the claims of any voter fraud are just as likely to believe that Trump is a Russian spy despite a total lack of evidence.
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I believe voting should be done with ID only IMO.
That is the way it works in every other civilized country, even ultra liberal Canada. It is only a political issue in the USA.
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