US Politics Thread 2016-2020

Originally Posted by Skybird

Can we, in Germany?

Easy answer, yes.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Easy answer, yes.

Because the dress proclaims the man?

Not for me. Merkel or Schultz, Steinmeier or Söder, to me they are all as criminal and unscrupulous and destructive, as Trump is. Just that they hide that behind better manners, and that is the only difference for me. Wolves in shee's clothes.

Trump and them - I would lock them all away in one and the same pit.

You asked if they are better than Trump - not if they suffice in general, there my answer sure is no as well.

But, are you seriously putting Merkel on the same level as Trump?

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I want back the cold war. It was better.

You are just old

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

You asked if they are better than Trump - not if they suffice in general, there my answer sure is no as well.

But, are you seriously putting Merkel on the same level as Trump?

Honestly. Yes. And most pro politicians as well. In her way she has been as destructive. Just better manners, and being clever enough to not let every piece of stinking cheese falling out of her mouth. Trump swings his fist and stomp his feet and yells when he meets resistence. Merkels does not stomp her feet and yells. She silently kills by infantilization and reeducation, compare her to the embrace by an anaconda. The results of her agenda to prevail power and to deconstruct Germany for the sake of her wanted EU, are as destructive as Trump's broken promises and failures will show to be once he is done. The bills will be paid by the ordinary man, eroding their fianncial future and security more and more. Trump causes this on behalf of the rivch elites, Mekrel on behalf of "rescuing the euro, the ECB, the EU and the net receivers. And deeper and deeper she leads the Germans into the swamps.

You can take me by my word there. I indeed make and see no constructive differences between the Merkels and the Trumps of this world. Only a difference in manners, style, and cleverness to hide their underhanded policies.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

You are just old

Or too rational.

There were accidents, and close misses, yes. But this new scrambling nuclear arms race in the ME adds religious hysteria and death cult, racism and generations-old revenges, centuries-old open bills and ethnic hate. All that are elements of irrationality and hot boiling emoptions, which makes it all an extrneely dangeorus mixture.

Such attributes I never felt were valid terms to describe the rivalry between NATRO and the USSR.

I want back the cold war from the past. The new one scares the hell out of me.

Rather reasonable, I agree mostly with your last two posts, but personally still make/see a difference between Trump and, pretty much the rest.
But you sure have a point, in the end the most are causing problems of similar severity. I am twisted in case of Merkel. While I too criticize her for quite a lot of things, mainly her being so damn passive about everything, never taking a risk and if - never admitting errors (or not 'really'). However, I cannot say I do not respect her as well and also support some of the things she did, stated or supported over the years.
It is out of question what over weighs, though.

Schulz for Kanzler!

 

(jk)

[em2nought]

You can't really judge Trump by what the USA mainstream media is putting out. Trump threatens the very way of life that all of the fat cat bureaucrats in this country have come to expect(they think he does anyway), and they are acting out against it like spoiled Kindergarteners feeding their more than willing and in some ways naive(due to blind rage) partners in the mainstream media every single little tidbit they can in order to obstruct Trump. The media is against him, Democrats are against him, Republicans are against him, lifetime government employees are against him. The only people for him are some 63 million average Joes and Janes with viewpoints that fall to the right of the middle dividing line, or right of Hillary Clinton at least.

The greatest fear of all those opposing Trump? A successful presidency with the USA feeling they are better off than they were during the last sixteen years of bureaucracy run rampant. IMO

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by em2nought

The greatest fear of all those opposing Trump? A successful presidency...

That is not the greatest fear I have of a Trump administration... not even close.

I am putting my faith that my country can survive Trump and that he can't do anything irreversible.

[August]

Originally Posted by em2nought

The greatest fear of all those opposing Trump?

Originally Posted by Platapus

That is not the greatest fear I have of a Trump administration... not even close.

Although I didn't vote for him, I don't oppose Trump. As long as he keeps pissing off all the right people and gets another pro-2A SC Judge seated before the establishment drives him from power i'll be satisfied. Well that and knowing that Hillary Clinton will never be President.

[Dowly]

BREAKING: Hundreds of leaked White House documents released:

http://www.theonion.com/trumpdocuments

[August]

Originally Posted by Dowly

BREAKING: Hundreds of leaked White House documents released:

http://www.theonion.com/trumpdocuments

Breaking what, the bounds of ridiculousness? I understand that the left doesn't really hold to accuracy in reporting the news but using a spoof website like the Onion is rather over the top.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by August

Breaking what, the bounds of ridiculousness? I understand that the left doesn't really hold to accuracy in reporting the news but using a spoof website like the Onion is rather over the top.

[August]

Originally Posted by Dowly

stolen tv show clip

Well it had to be spelled out given the outrageous stuff some people here seem to believe.