[REL] My tutorial for 100% realism manual targeting

Hitman · 04-15-07, 03:58 PM

OK here is a quick tutorial I have setup with my procedures for manual targeting while playing at 100% realism. Using it I have been having much success in my current career, so I hope it can be of some help to those who want to do it the hard way. Get it here:

UPDATE: New version 2.0 available NOW IN PDF (Only 1MB!!):

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1647

Have fun

Camaero · 04-15-07, 04:15 PM

Thanks bud! Can't wait to dive into this a little later.

Edit: I forgot to say that is extremely nice when someone makes something like this just to help others learn. Thanks again!

CaptainCox · 04-15-07, 04:17 PM

Great work man...but will have to try it out in the morn as its bed time here in Deutschland. Again thanks!

Gigalocus · 04-15-07, 04:20 PM

great, i've been having troubles with this, thanks a bunch!

now, off to sink the yamato, but 12% realisticer!

BlackSpot · 04-15-07, 06:32 PM

Nice tutorial. I thought I'd have bash at this on the sub torp school.
I pull up the recognition manual to get the length of the ship. No length printed, but a scale bar. However, look at this, the scale bar is off the page!! A new bug? (screen res 1600x1200)
BTW How DO you find the length? What is the scale bar length?
Cheers.

JSF · 04-15-07, 08:10 PM

i guess you have to join Rapidshare to get the file.................

captainFlunky · 05-04-07, 01:53 AM

Very Nice!

Thank You!

Bilge_Rat · 05-05-07, 07:52 AM

After diligent practice, carefully following the tips in Hitman's guide, as well as using the 3 minute rule to determine speed and adding additional tools such as Captain Cox/13th41's 360 bearing tool and Krupp's recognition manual (yes, I broke down), my manual targeting has improved 200%.

thanks everyone who are making it easier for us manual TDC type to line the seabeds with japanese steel.

Hitman · 05-05-07, 12:50 PM

New version (2.0) of the tutorial available in the first post.
UPDATES:

- New speed method, much easier and well explained.
- New screenshots. Created a mission specifically for that, and screens are much better now.
- Revised text to make things even clearer and easier

If someone can convert it to PDF and reduce size I would be most grateful

Forensicman101 · 11-10-12, 02:36 PM

The links to this tutorial appear to be dead.

cdrsubron7 · 11-10-12, 06:46 PM

I'd like to give this a try also. Has anyone got the file to upload it to Subsim?

WernerSobe · 07-24-07, 08:29 PM

good work.

just few things.

1. Its not required to put the ship on the horizon line when taking the range with stadimeter. Thats how it worked in sh3. In SH4 all you have to do is match the waterline with the masts. There is no connection with horizon line. Makes taking range a lot easier in rough seas.

2. Aspect Ratio is one method to get the AoB. However historicaly rarely used due to many reasons. At first you must know the aspect ratio, that was not always the case. Then it was less acurate then it appears in sh4 because it was very hard to hold the scope on one place with a boat being shaked around in rough sea. And after all it requires to have the periscope raised for to long time.

Altirnatively you can take two position marks and make a plot. That will not only provide the course (which can be converted into AoB easily) but the speed also.

Basicly youre doing it anyway. When you get speed you also have course information. Just tune in the course in TDC compas and you have your AoB. No calculations needed.

ReallyDedPoet · 11-07-07, 08:16 AM

Great work on this Hitman

, others as well, just started down the path of manual targetting, it totally changes the experience

RDP

BellJack95 · 02-11-08, 04:18 PM

Hitman - thank you for creating and posting this manual targeting tutorial. I have been leary of manual targeting because of the difficulty in using the manual method and I also enjoyed putting those weapons officers and crew to good use (translation I was lazy)! This manual helped greatly in understanding how to use manual targeting and was easy to understand. Now I am ready to give it a try as I am starting a new career in SH4. Cheers!

thegroo · 02-11-08, 09:15 PM

Great tutorial

Thank you very much

Regards
Dieter

04-15-07, 03:58 PM	#1
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	[REL] My tutorial for 100% realism manual targeting OK here is a quick tutorial I have setup with my procedures for manual targeting while playing at 100% realism. Using it I have been having much success in my current career, so I hope it can be of some help to those who want to do it the hard way. Get it here: UPDATE: New version 2.0 available NOW IN PDF (Only 1MB!!): http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1647 Have fun __________________ One day I will return to sea ... Last edited by Hitman; 02-04-14 at 10:28 AM.

04-15-07, 04:15 PM	#2
Camaero The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA, Massachusetts Posts: 1,477 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Thanks bud! Can't wait to dive into this a little later. Edit: I forgot to say that is extremely nice when someone makes something like this just to help others learn. Thanks again! __________________

04-15-07, 04:17 PM	#3
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Great work man...but will have to try it out in the morn as its bed time here in Deutschland. Again thanks! __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

04-15-07, 06:32 PM	#5
BlackSpot Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Shropshire UK Posts: 266 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Nice tutorial. I thought I'd have bash at this on the sub torp school. I pull up the recognition manual to get the length of the ship. No length printed, but a scale bar. However, look at this, the scale bar is off the page!! A new bug? (screen res 1600x1200) BTW How DO you find the length? What is the scale bar length? Cheers. __________________ Do nothing which is of no use.

05-05-07, 12:50 PM	#9
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	New version (2.0) of the tutorial available in the first post. UPDATES: - New speed method, much easier and well explained. - New screenshots. Created a mission specifically for that, and screens are much better now. - Revised text to make things even clearer and easier If someone can convert it to PDF and reduce size I would be most grateful __________________ One day I will return to sea ... Last edited by Hitman; 05-06-07 at 09:22 AM.

04-15-07, 04:20 PM	#4
Gigalocus Seaman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Plymouth Posts: 40 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	great, i've been having troubles with this, thanks a bunch! now, off to sink the yamato, but 12% realisticer!

04-15-07, 08:10 PM	#6
JSF Engineer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 208 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	i guess you have to join Rapidshare to get the file.................

05-04-07, 01:53 AM	#7
captainFlunky Watch Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 0	Very Nice! Thank You!

05-05-07, 07:52 AM	#8
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,856 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	After diligent practice, carefully following the tips in Hitman's guide, as well as using the 3 minute rule to determine speed and adding additional tools such as Captain Cox/13th41's 360 bearing tool and Krupp's recognition manual (yes, I broke down), my manual targeting has improved 200%. thanks everyone who are making it easier for us manual TDC type to line the seabeds with japanese steel.

11-10-12, 02:36 PM	#10
Forensicman101 Gunner Join Date: May 2010 Location: Abercarn, South Wales, UK Posts: 91 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	Dead Links? The links to this tutorial appear to be dead.

11-10-12, 06:46 PM	#11
cdrsubron7 Sink'em All Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 2,150 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 1	I'd like to give this a try also. Has anyone got the file to upload it to Subsim? __________________ Head Deep and Keep'em Astern" - LtCDR Samuel D Dealy SHIV Guide \| Imperial Japanese Navy \| US Submarines

07-24-07, 08:29 PM	#12
WernerSobe Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 625 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	good work. just few things. 1. Its not required to put the ship on the horizon line when taking the range with stadimeter. Thats how it worked in sh3. In SH4 all you have to do is match the waterline with the masts. There is no connection with horizon line. Makes taking range a lot easier in rough seas. 2. Aspect Ratio is one method to get the AoB. However historicaly rarely used due to many reasons. At first you must know the aspect ratio, that was not always the case. Then it was less acurate then it appears in sh4 because it was very hard to hold the scope on one place with a boat being shaked around in rough sea. And after all it requires to have the periscope raised for to long time. Altirnatively you can take two position marks and make a plot. That will not only provide the course (which can be converted into AoB easily) but the speed also. Basicly youre doing it anyway. When you get speed you also have course information. Just tune in the course in TDC compas and you have your AoB. No calculations needed.

11-07-07, 08:16 AM	#13
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,890 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Great work on this Hitman , others as well, just started down the path of manual targetting, it totally changes the experience RDP __________________ Back in the Day

02-11-08, 04:18 PM	#14
BellJack95 Bosun Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 67 Downloads: 149 Uploads: 0	Hitman - thank you for creating and posting this manual targeting tutorial. I have been leary of manual targeting because of the difficulty in using the manual method and I also enjoyed putting those weapons officers and crew to good use (translation I was lazy)! This manual helped greatly in understanding how to use manual targeting and was easy to understand. Now I am ready to give it a try as I am starting a new career in SH4. Cheers!

02-11-08, 09:15 PM	#15
thegroo Bosun Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Switzerland Posts: 67 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Great tutorial Thank you very much Regards Dieter __________________