[REL] Squid launcher - Page 5

gap · 03-17-16, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

That's exactly what I mean.

Right now I am too busy to test anything, but I believe LGN1 is reading our notes. I know he is busy with real life too, but I hope he will carry on some new experiments when he gets time

LGN1 · 03-20-16, 01:58 PM

Hi guys,

sorry for the long delay in answering. As gap has pointed out I currently have a lot to do in RL.

To avoid any great expectations: I have not been able to get a working squid launcher based on the K-gun and I have also not been able to reduce the number of hedgehog projectiles

There are also no projectiles in the air and no loading animations

However, gap's thrower looks great (and scary

) in-game and I could create the famous triangle pattern.

I have done several tests to check what triggers the DCs. I think it's just the position of the ship (and the speed of the u-boat). The position of the throwers with respect to the ship seems not to be taken into account. I have observed the same for the hedgehog. My testings also showed that the sinking speed of the DCs and the firing range of the hedgehog are not properly taken into account (this might be a problem for mods which significantly change the sinking speed of the DCs).

To summarize, the mod is currently still far from perfect, however, from a game-play perspective it does its job. gap's thrower looks great, but the particle effects could be improved (I'm not good at doing these effects). Maybe some other modders will join and improve the mod in the future...

Regards, LGN1

mikey117us · 03-21-16, 12:22 PM

Has anyone tested the squid launcher as a fixed multi barrel artillery piece? With 3 low velocity indirect fire projectiles? The Virtual Torpedo From Fido mod, and AI Subs are set up this way.

Fahnenbohn · 03-21-16, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey117us

Has anyone tested the squid launcher as a fixed multi barrel artillery piece? With 3 low velocity indirect fire projectiles? The Virtual Torpedo From Fido mod, and AI Subs are set up this way.

Yeah, why not !

But you have to add 3 different guns, with 3 different ranges, so the squid will fire 3 times, and all projectiles are going to hit the submarine... And how to simulate the DC falling underwater ?

gap · 03-29-16, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey117us

Has anyone tested the squid launcher as a fixed multi barrel artillery piece? With 3 low velocity indirect fire projectiles? The Virtual Torpedo From Fido mod, and AI Subs are set up this way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

Yeah, why not !

But you have to add 3 different guns, with 3 different ranges, so the squid will fire 3 times, and all projectiles are going to hit the submarine... And how to simulate the DC falling underwater ?

Yep, I was thinking pretty much the same but to the best of my knowledge, AI unitd would only fire their squid-guns against surfaced targets or, at most, agaist submarines which are at periscope depth. Such a tactic fits the purposes of virtual torpedoes, but not the ones of a depth charge.

Fahnenbohn · 03-29-16, 04:52 PM

So, there are no solutions ... ?

gap · 03-31-16, 10:55 AM

Let's wait for LGN1: he might come with a better idea...

LGN1 · 04-03-16, 02:15 PM

Hi,

I don't know how a gun should help. As gap has pointed out it would not fire on a submerged u-boat.

I think from a game-play point-of-view the hedgehog solution works fine. So for people playing without external view the current solution is ok.

IMHO, a 'real' squid would require editing the .exe because one would also have to code the historical 'squid attack' procedure which was quite different from DC attacks.

Regards, LGN1

mikey117us · 04-03-16, 06:33 PM

Quick video demonstration of a Squid attack. Although 14 years later, Triple the size, and more space Allocated for tubes, the method and technology for an indirect fire attack on a submerged target were the same. Notice the Echoplot Printer giving the aspect range and course and when the Squid Batteries in this case fire, they "Walk In" a salvo. I would guess From Least to Greatest Distance Traveled, and Port or Starboard Turn. If Hedghog node works then Great! Coding AI units to deploy this Attack would be deadly!

Fahnenbohn · 04-19-16, 10:19 AM

Any news here ?

gap · 04-23-16, 04:08 AM

Hi Fahnenbohn.

Sorry for my long silence but I, like LGN1, have been pretty busy with real life during the last weeks, and to make things worse, the web connection in the country where I am currently living is a real PITA.

Anyway, today I have sent a PM to LGN1, and if everything goes well, there might be some fresh news relative to our project during the next weeks. I am sorry to be so vague, but I cant tell you more at this time.

Fahnenbohn · 04-23-16, 05:18 AM

LGN1 · 04-23-16, 02:48 PM

Hi guys,

sorry for the late reply. I have finished the readme and hope to release a version for testing soon.

Best, LGN1

@gap: I have not received any pm

gap · 04-24-16, 01:53 PM

@LGM1

Sorry mate. I wrote the PM from my smartphone, and I probably pushed the wrong button

I sent you another PM. I hope you received it this time

Aktungbby · 04-24-16, 02:57 PM

Yours must b the only smart phone in 'Grate' Zimbabwe!

03-31-16, 10:55 AM	#67
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	Let's wait for LGN1: he might come with a better idea... __________________ _____________________ \|May the Force be with you!\| ...\/

04-23-16, 04:08 AM	#71
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	Hi Fahnenbohn. Sorry for my long silence but I, like LGN1, have been pretty busy with real life during the last weeks, and to make things worse, the web connection in the country where I am currently living is a real PITA. Anyway, today I have sent a PM to LGN1, and if everything goes well, there might be some fresh news relative to our project during the next weeks. I am sorry to be so vague, but I cant tell you more at this time. __________________ _____________________ \|May the Force be with you!\| ...\/

04-24-16, 01:53 PM	#74
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	@LGM1 Sorry mate. I wrote the PM from my smartphone, and I probably pushed the wrong button I sent you another PM. I hope you received it this time __________________ _____________________ \|May the Force be with you!\| ...\/

04-24-16, 02:57 PM	#75
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,036 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Yours must b the only smart phone in 'Grate' Zimbabwe! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

03-20-16, 01:58 PM	#62
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Hi guys, sorry for the long delay in answering. As gap has pointed out I currently have a lot to do in RL. To avoid any great expectations: I have not been able to get a working squid launcher based on the K-gun and I have also not been able to reduce the number of hedgehog projectiles There are also no projectiles in the air and no loading animations However, gap's thrower looks great (and scary ) in-game and I could create the famous triangle pattern. I have done several tests to check what triggers the DCs. I think it's just the position of the ship (and the speed of the u-boat). The position of the throwers with respect to the ship seems not to be taken into account. I have observed the same for the hedgehog. My testings also showed that the sinking speed of the DCs and the firing range of the hedgehog are not properly taken into account (this might be a problem for mods which significantly change the sinking speed of the DCs). To summarize, the mod is currently still far from perfect, however, from a game-play perspective it does its job. gap's thrower looks great, but the particle effects could be improved (I'm not good at doing these effects). Maybe some other modders will join and improve the mod in the future... Regards, LGN1

03-21-16, 12:22 PM	#63
mikey117us Engineer Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Kalifornia Posts: 211 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Has anyone tested the squid launcher as a fixed multi barrel artillery piece? With 3 low velocity indirect fire projectiles? The Virtual Torpedo From Fido mod, and AI Subs are set up this way.

03-29-16, 04:52 PM	#66
Fahnenbohn Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: France Posts: 1,072 Downloads: 155 Uploads: 0	So, there are no solutions ... ?

04-03-16, 02:15 PM	#68
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Hi, I don't know how a gun should help. As gap has pointed out it would not fire on a submerged u-boat. I think from a game-play point-of-view the hedgehog solution works fine. So for people playing without external view the current solution is ok. IMHO, a 'real' squid would require editing the .exe because one would also have to code the historical 'squid attack' procedure which was quite different from DC attacks. Regards, LGN1

04-03-16, 06:33 PM	#69
mikey117us Engineer Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Kalifornia Posts: 211 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Quick video demonstration of a Squid attack. Although 14 years later, Triple the size, and more space Allocated for tubes, the method and technology for an indirect fire attack on a submerged target were the same. Notice the Echoplot Printer giving the aspect range and course and when the Squid Batteries in this case fire, they "Walk In" a salvo. I would guess From Least to Greatest Distance Traveled, and Port or Starboard Turn. If Hedghog node works then Great! Coding AI units to deploy this Attack would be deadly!

04-19-16, 10:19 AM	#70
Fahnenbohn Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: France Posts: 1,072 Downloads: 155 Uploads: 0	Any news here ?

04-23-16, 05:18 AM	#72
Fahnenbohn Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: France Posts: 1,072 Downloads: 155 Uploads: 0

04-23-16, 02:48 PM	#73
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Hi guys, sorry for the late reply. I have finished the readme and hope to release a version for testing soon. Best, LGN1 @gap: I have not received any pm