SH3Gen and Windows 7

rudewarrior · 11-01-09, 11:00 AM

Hi,

Is anyone out there running SH3Gen with Windows 7 successfully. I can't seem to make it run, and I can't figure out what the issue is. It opens, but after I pick the save game, the "generate" button remains greyed out, and I can't press it in order to run the program.

Any help?

Pisces · 11-01-09, 06:26 PM

I don't know if this is the cure but I suspect that Sh3Gen tries to make files and folders inside it's own folderstructure inside c:\Program Files\Sh3Gen. But Vista and Windows 7 doesn't like it if programs do that.

Try to install it somewhere else and see if it works then.

rudewarrior · 11-01-09, 06:59 PM

Thanx for the idea, but that is not it. I have it installed under my personal folder. I also tried running it as an administrator b/c of that whole altering files issue, but that doesn't work either.

Thanx for the try, tho.

bsalyers · 11-12-09, 12:16 PM

I am running Windows 7 and have exactly the same issue. I tried the same things, running as administrator, compatibility-mode; no love. Has anyone else had any luck?

irish1958 · 11-12-09, 01:24 PM

I can't either. I PM the author without response re windows7.

FIREWALL · 11-12-09, 01:48 PM

With Win7 as with Vista you can partition on the fly and reinstall XP.

Sadly everything works on XP when it comes to SH-3 and Mods/Addons.

rudewarrior · 11-12-09, 02:43 PM

Unless the author responds, I don't think there is much merit to using the mod at this point. I like it, but I'm guessing it hasn't been maintained in a while. It was definitely a cool add-on, but I could do without the Icebergs that get plotted in the English Channel. Oh well, eventually all mods die...

Pisces · 11-12-09, 08:01 PM

Well, with Windows 7 you can use Virtual XP mode to run applications (through a virtual environment) that do not work in plain W7. I haven't seriously tried it yet so I can't help further. And it depends on your CPU (does it support virtualization technology), and edition of 7 if you can actually run it. But this link should point in the right direction:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir.../download.aspx

Talyllyn · 11-13-09, 08:15 PM

The virtual XP patch only works for the versions above the Home Premium unfortunately.

Pisces · 11-15-09, 07:29 PM

Yeah, that's what I meant with "edition of 7". But according to this wiki page ("I" note under the compatibility table) you can sort of bypass this limitation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows..._PC#endnote_I3

Though I do not understand how they manage to get it to install XP Sp3 as a virtual machine in Virtual PC with one of the lesser versions of 7. Maybe you could stubbornly try to download the files for the Professional version and install it anyway. Virtual PC 2007 wasn't supposed to work on my Vista Home Premium either, but it did. It just gave a meaningless 'thou shall not install' warning message when I installed it. The virtual machines didn't care it was a lesser edition of Vista.

irish1958 · 11-18-09, 08:15 AM

I checked my install of windows7 and found that I had Net Framework 3.5.1 (sp1) on my computer and I did not have NF 1 and 2. The specs for SH3Gen require NF 2.
When I checked at the Microsoft web site, there was a thread that stated that NF 2 needed to be uninstalled before installing NF 3.5
Is this the reason that SH3Gen won't work on windows7?
If so, does anyone know if it is safe to install NF 2 on windows7?
Has anybody been able to run sh3Gen on windows7?
If one installs virtual PC as Pisces suggests, is it safe to also install net framework 2 as it is not included with the virtualPC install?

11-01-09, 11:00 AM	#1
rudewarrior Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Middlebury, VT, USA Posts: 378 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 2	SH3Gen and Windows 7 Hi, Is anyone out there running SH3Gen with Windows 7 successfully. I can't seem to make it run, and I can't figure out what the issue is. It opens, but after I pick the save game, the "generate" button remains greyed out, and I can't press it in order to run the program. Any help?

11-01-09, 06:26 PM	#2
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	I don't know if this is the cure but I suspect that Sh3Gen tries to make files and folders inside it's own folderstructure inside c:\Program Files\Sh3Gen. But Vista and Windows 7 doesn't like it if programs do that. Try to install it somewhere else and see if it works then. __________________ My site downloads: https://ricojansen.nl/downloads

11-12-09, 12:16 PM	#4
bsalyers Sparky Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 152 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Same Issue I am running Windows 7 and have exactly the same issue. I tried the same things, running as administrator, compatibility-mode; no love. Has anyone else had any luck? __________________ I had a life back in the Real World... before I discovered SubSims.

11-12-09, 01:24 PM	#5
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	I can't either. I PM the author without response re windows7. __________________ Irish1958

11-12-09, 01:48 PM	#6
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	With Win7 as with Vista you can partition on the fly and reinstall XP. Sadly everything works on XP when it comes to SH-3 and Mods/Addons. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

11-01-09, 06:59 PM	#3
rudewarrior Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Middlebury, VT, USA Posts: 378 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 2	Thanx for the idea, but that is not it. I have it installed under my personal folder. I also tried running it as an administrator b/c of that whole altering files issue, but that doesn't work either. Thanx for the try, tho.

11-12-09, 02:43 PM	#7
rudewarrior Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Middlebury, VT, USA Posts: 378 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 2	Unless the author responds, I don't think there is much merit to using the mod at this point. I like it, but I'm guessing it hasn't been maintained in a while. It was definitely a cool add-on, but I could do without the Icebergs that get plotted in the English Channel. Oh well, eventually all mods die...

11-12-09, 08:01 PM	#8
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Well, with Windows 7 you can use Virtual XP mode to run applications (through a virtual environment) that do not work in plain W7. I haven't seriously tried it yet so I can't help further. And it depends on your CPU (does it support virtualization technology), and edition of 7 if you can actually run it. But this link should point in the right direction: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir.../download.aspx __________________ My site downloads: https://ricojansen.nl/downloads

11-13-09, 08:15 PM	#9
Talyllyn Watch Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wirral, UK Posts: 19 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	Virtual XP The virtual XP patch only works for the versions above the Home Premium unfortunately.

11-15-09, 07:29 PM	#10
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Yeah, that's what I meant with "edition of 7". But according to this wiki page ("I" note under the compatibility table) you can sort of bypass this limitation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows..._PC#endnote_I3 Though I do not understand how they manage to get it to install XP Sp3 as a virtual machine in Virtual PC with one of the lesser versions of 7. Maybe you could stubbornly try to download the files for the Professional version and install it anyway. Virtual PC 2007 wasn't supposed to work on my Vista Home Premium either, but it did. It just gave a meaningless 'thou shall not install' warning message when I installed it. The virtual machines didn't care it was a lesser edition of Vista. __________________ My site downloads: https://ricojansen.nl/downloads

11-18-09, 08:15 AM	#11
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	I checked my install of windows7 and found that I had Net Framework 3.5.1 (sp1) on my computer and I did not have NF 1 and 2. The specs for SH3Gen require NF 2. When I checked at the Microsoft web site, there was a thread that stated that NF 2 needed to be uninstalled before installing NF 3.5 Is this the reason that SH3Gen won't work on windows7? If so, does anyone know if it is safe to install NF 2 on windows7? Has anybody been able to run sh3Gen on windows7? If one installs virtual PC as Pisces suggests, is it safe to also install net framework 2 as it is not included with the virtualPC install? __________________ Irish1958 Last edited by irish1958; 11-18-09 at 08:16 AM. Reason: spelling correction