SH3 Commander-The Complete Super Deluxe Thallium Commander's Special Ultimate Edition - Page 36

JScones · 12-30-10, 06:20 AM

Actually, it's not SH3Cmdr that is getting confused, it's simply the player.

Robin40, by returning to base you have effectively, as far as SH3 is concerned, ended your patrol, regardless of whether or not you penultimately saved it "in the water". As SH3Cmdr merely reads the SH3 game files, this is why it reports your career as "In home base before patrol X".

You need to "Save and Exit", as CherryHarbey recommended, to save mid patrol. Then SH3Cmdr will report your status as "At sea during patrol X" and crew transfers and Kaleun retirements will not occur.

Robin40 · 12-30-10, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CherryHarbey

why are you not able to use the "save and exit" option?

If you are saving, then returning to base, then re-loading, I am not surprised that Commander is getting confused.

well...I wish to save 2 files, because if one is corrupted the other maybe not and you don't lose the entire patrol

anyway...is there any contrary direction to load midpatrol by sh3 directly?

JScones · 12-30-10, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin40

well...I wish to save 2 files, because if one is corrupted the other maybe not and you don't lose the entire patrol

Well, then understand that you are not actually saving mid-patrol and that SH3, and SH3Cmdr, will correctly report you as "in base", because returning to base was your last action.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin40

anyway...is there any contrary direction to load midpatrol by sh3 directly?

See that "?" icon on the main SH3Cmdr screen? Click it and all will be revealed. Of course, it assumes that you save mid-patrols correctly. As you have chosen not to, preferring to return to base to exit your game, then you can either reload SH3 directly as you currently are, foregoing all the benefits of SH3Cmdr, or you can reload through SH3Cmdr, but manually disabling the crew transfers and realistic retirement options.

Robin40 · 12-30-10, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JScones

Well, then understand that you are not actually saving mid-patrol and that SH3, and SH3Cmdr, will correctly report you as "in base", because returning to base was your last action.

See that "?" icon on the main SH3Cmdr screen? Click it and all will be revealed. Of course, it assumes that you save mid-patrols correctly. As you have chosen not to, preferring to return to base to exit your game, then you can either reload SH3 directly as you currently are, foregoing all the benefits of SH3Cmdr, or you can reload through SH3Cmdr, but manually disabling the crew transfers and realistic retirement options.

well...I load midpatrol saves via sh3 directly, that is the last save before the base to start the new mission

when I return to base at the end of patrol I load end patrol via sh3cmdr

it looks like it works

frau kaleun · 12-30-10, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin40

well...I load midpatrol saves via sh3 directly, that is the last save before the base to start the new mission

when I return to base at the end of patrol I load end patrol via sh3cmdr

it looks like it works

Be aware, though, that if you have Commander set to Automatic Rollback, it undoes any functionality/options it added to the game for you when you exit the game. If you start SH3 again without going through Commander, you will not have those options during that gaming session as Commander was not allowed to do its stuff.

Also, if you want to make two saves to guard against the possibility of a corrupt file, you don't need to exit the game (or your patrol) in order to do that.

Just hit Esc and Save to create the first save file, then hit Continue or whatever to return to the game for a couple of seconds. Hit Esc again and then Save & Exit to make a second save before you exit the game. Just make sure you give the second save a different filename or you'll overwrite the first one you just made.

Robin40 · 12-30-10, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Also, if you want to make two saves to guard against the possibility of a corrupt file, you don't need to exit the game (or your patrol) in order to do that.

Just hit Esc and Save to create the first save file, then hit Continue or whatever to return to the game for a couple of seconds. Hit Esc again and then Save & Exit to make a second save before you exit the game. Just make sure you give the second save a different filename or you'll overwrite the first one you just made.

Many thx!

Yep...I did it already on my own this afternoon

Btw

This horrible sh3 save system doesn't allow to delete previous files

xct2010 · 12-30-10, 02:35 PM

Can anyone tell me where can I find this file?

frau kaleun · 12-30-10, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin40

This horrible sh3 save system doesn't allow to delete previous files

Correct, if you delete a save it automatically deletes every save made after the one you chose to delete.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xct2010

Can anyone tell me where can I find this file?

I'm assuming you want the program, not one specific file from an installation of it?

If so, the first post in this thread contains download links and instructions:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...18&postcount=1

Kemper Boyd · 01-01-11, 10:38 AM

I am too in the process of reinstalling SH3 and now noticed that the download links in the first post of this thread are dead. Could anyone put the SHCommander 3.2 file somewhere for downloading?

CherryHarbey · 01-01-11, 10:45 AM

posts 520 and 521 have new links

Paulski · 01-01-11, 02:33 PM

Everything works fine, but I have one question... I'm in my 2nd patrol right now, and just as my first one, I'm ordered to grid AN16. Now offcourserse this isn't a big deal to me, but will it be so for the rest of my career??

I remember when I created my new career in SH3 Commander, there was an option to select a grid, wich I left open. But my career info does say "Next Patrol Grid: AN16". So do I have to change it myself, or is there a way to let SH3 generate the patrol grids for me again?

Sailor Steve · 01-01-11, 11:14 PM

I'm not sure why, but Subsim Downloads had some files go missing some time ago, and apparently this was one of them. This was not JSCones's fault, and had nothing to do with him.

After a quick conversation he gave me permission to put up a new link here at Subsim, so it's available again.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=2923

JScones · 01-01-11, 11:45 PM

Thanks SS.

Plissken_04 · 01-02-11, 03:21 AM

The SH3 Cmdr can be also found at here

ftp://maikhaas.dyndns.org/Volume_1/S...AESEN%20JONES/

So Long

Maik

JScones · 01-02-11, 03:25 AM

Thanks Maik, I forgot you had a copy of it as well.

12-30-10, 02:35 PM	#532
xct2010 Bilge Rat Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	SH3Cmdr32 Can anyone tell me where can I find this file?

01-01-11, 11:14 PM	#537
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I'm not sure why, but Subsim Downloads had some files go missing some time ago, and apparently this was one of them. This was not JSCones's fault, and had nothing to do with him. After a quick conversation he gave me permission to put up a new link here at Subsim, so it's available again. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=2923 __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

01-02-11, 03:21 AM	#539
Plissken_04 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 670 Downloads: 548 Uploads: 0	The SH3 Cmdr can be also found at here ftp://maikhaas.dyndns.org/Volume_1/S...AESEN%20JONES/ So Long Maik __________________ SILENT HUNTER 3 MODS AND GAME PS2 EMULATOR FOR WINDOWS, MAC & LINUX

12-30-10, 06:20 AM	#526
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Actually, it's not SH3Cmdr that is getting confused, it's simply the player. Robin40, by returning to base you have effectively, as far as SH3 is concerned, ended your patrol, regardless of whether or not you penultimately saved it "in the water". As SH3Cmdr merely reads the SH3 game files, this is why it reports your career as "In home base before patrol X". You need to "Save and Exit", as CherryHarbey recommended, to save mid patrol. Then SH3Cmdr will report your status as "At sea during patrol X" and crew transfers and Kaleun retirements will not occur.

01-01-11, 10:38 AM	#534
Kemper Boyd Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 5 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I am too in the process of reinstalling SH3 and now noticed that the download links in the first post of this thread are dead. Could anyone put the SHCommander 3.2 file somewhere for downloading?

01-01-11, 10:45 AM	#535
CherryHarbey Engineer Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Derby, UK Posts: 200 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	posts 520 and 521 have new links

01-01-11, 02:33 PM	#536
Paulski A-ganger Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 74 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Everything works fine, but I have one question... I'm in my 2nd patrol right now, and just as my first one, I'm ordered to grid AN16. Now offcourserse this isn't a big deal to me, but will it be so for the rest of my career?? I remember when I created my new career in SH3 Commander, there was an option to select a grid, wich I left open. But my career info does say "Next Patrol Grid: AN16". So do I have to change it myself, or is there a way to let SH3 generate the patrol grids for me again?

01-01-11, 11:45 PM	#538
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Thanks SS.

01-02-11, 03:25 AM	#540
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Thanks Maik, I forgot you had a copy of it as well.