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Old 10-03-06, 10:09 PM   #1
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Default Diets: All about FOOD and that's no Bush.it!

My wife is curious about the Atkins diet. I think this is a very BAD diet, so I am discouraging her from it. She wants a long term diet and I think Atkins should only be for a short term since it's all about eating meats pretty much or foods with low- to-no carbs in them.

Anyone got any diets that have worked for them or know how someone lost weight on a long term diet and which long term diet did they use?
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Old 10-03-06, 11:29 PM   #2
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Avoiding pork, shellfish, and fast-food is a good place to start.

A book I recommend is called "The Makers' Diet" by Jordan Rubin

The main focus is about keeping a diet which keeps us healthy. And the book does bring up alot of questions about the diet of people today in relation to lifespan.

For example, we read in the scriptures that G-d made the days of man 120 years, yet on average we in the human race don't even live to be 80! So what gives?

Some of the answer is that in todays' world we have more pollution that becomes absorbed by the plants (toxins) and is then absorbed by our bodies when we ingest those plants, effectively poisoning ourselves to death 3 times daily (or however many square meals a day you eat).

But anyway, I'll let the book speak for itself.

Website here:

http://www.makersdiet.com/publicsite...3-F5347DACA2AB
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Old 10-03-06, 11:58 PM   #3
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Yeah, skip the processed / refined foods , they'll kill ya(easier said than done).
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Old 10-04-06, 12:35 AM   #4
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Here the way one should determine what to eat:

1. Gather all the different kinds of food and drink that you like to eat.

2. Plot the nutritional values on a Microsoft Excel sheet for all the foods and drinks, and set up a calculation where you enter the weekly number of each food, and then the total calories and other nutritional data is displayed in a new column.

3. Plot a weekly diet to give you balanced nutrion. 2000 calories per day will maintain weight unless you get alot of exercise, in which case you will need more calories. To lose weight, make your weekly diet ahve foods totaling about 1500 calories per day. Based on a calculation I did, this shouls make you lose about a pound per week, more if you get alot of exercise.

4. Using excel, spread the foods out evenly on a weekly grid, so that each day has a reasonably balanced diet.

5. When purchasing food, if one item is unavalible, attempt to substitue a similar item with the same amount of calories.

6. Plot you weight everyday on another Excel sheet, taken at the same time every day.

7. Continue the diet, modifying it if you get sick of certain foods or they become unavalible. Once the desired weight is obtained, switch back to about 2000 calories per day for a couple weeks and check if this maintains weight. If it does, then keep that weekly number. If not then adjust as necessary to prevent additional weight gain or losss.

Using this method, you can be sure that you always get the right number of calories (which are the determinant of weight gain or loss). All other diet methods are crap, since they are unscientific. This method is also superior since you can plot as many different nutrients as you want, to insure a weight maintaining AND a healthy diet.
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Old 10-04-06, 01:29 AM   #5
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I think the Ornish diet is really good.

http://www.amazon.com/Ornishs-Progra...e=UTF8&s=books

That book covers not only diet but lifestyle changes.
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Old 10-04-06, 04:22 AM   #6
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I have heard that the Atkins diet makes you fart like there is no tomorrow.
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Old 10-04-06, 12:25 PM   #7
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My wife is curious about the Atkins diet. I think this is a very BAD diet, so I am discouraging her from it. She wants a long term diet and I think Atkins should only be for a short term since it's all about eating meats pretty much or foods with low- to-no carbs in them.

Anyone got any diets that have worked for them or know how someone lost weight on a long term diet and which long term diet did they use?
Yes, three times a day a good meal. Water in between.
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Old 10-05-06, 11:34 PM   #8
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And plenty of ........... erm, exercise
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Old 10-06-06, 07:59 AM   #9
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And plenty of ........... erm, exercise

HAH!!! Got that one covered!
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Old 10-10-06, 09:50 AM   #10
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Eat like a cave man...if you can hook it, stab it, or pick it off a tree, it's good for you! Of course, running down the street with a spear *may* get you a hard look from the local constabulary...and I'm sure the local fruit growers may have a thing or two to say about your liberating their product, but what the hey.

I would post a dandy link to the Mayo Clinics article on the Peleolithic diet, but I'm a victim of the infamous Firefox "no cut/paste" bug...but you can goole it.

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Old 10-10-06, 12:56 PM   #11
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My wife is curious about the Atkins diet. I think this is a very BAD diet, so I am discouraging her from it.
It's not a "bad" diet. If you are obese, and need open-heart surgery, there is a tremendous amount of benefit to the Atikins diet.

Instead of the diet, buy your wife an iPod and an elleptical machine. Call it an early Christmas present. Load up the iPod with music, and take 20 minute turns on the machine as often as you can. If you want to make things more interesting, *you* work out on the machine a couple times a day.....naked.
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Old 10-10-06, 03:00 PM   #12
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My wife is curious about the Atkins diet. I think this is a very BAD diet, so I am discouraging her from it.
It's not a "bad" diet. If you are obese, and need open-heart surgery, there is a tremendous amount of benefit to the Atikins diet.

Instead of the diet, buy your wife an iPod and an elleptical machine. Call it an early Christmas present. Load up the iPod with music, and take 20 minute turns on the machine as often as you can. If you want to make things more interesting, *you* work out on the machine a couple times a day.....naked.

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