Neutral, my $#%!

Jacques Uzi · 10-12-06, 06:16 AM

It was a dark and stormy night in 1940. Well, actually it wasn't stormy, there was no wind. But it was very dark. Anyway, I was attacking a convoy headed for the Irish sea and fired a salvo at a c3. All three torpedoes hit, and it turned out that i had destroyed a "neutral unit". What is that supposed to mean? I assume it must have been an american ship, but so what? It was a part of a convoy belonging to Die verdammte Engländer

Kiwi Zero Six · 10-12-06, 06:27 AM

Convoys don't belong to countries, ships do.

stabiz · 10-12-06, 06:52 AM

Potato-peeling for you!

Redwine · 10-12-06, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by stabiz

Potato-peeling for you!

Same quantity of potatoes tons as the neutral ship :rotfl:

Dont worry ! some time i sink the Hospiatl Ship....

ECV56_PolTen · 10-12-06, 07:23 AM

Been there, done that. My best patrol until now was ruined for sinking a "neutral", I had to "resign" my command of the U-46, a beatiful VIIB

Sh*t happens

fredbass · 10-12-06, 07:26 AM

You can sink anything you want if you don't mind losing renown.

If you blow up a hospital ship, it's like negative 10,000 or something like that and Hitler personally gets to pull your pants down on that one.

Jacques Uzi · 10-12-06, 07:41 AM

What's the point of a naval blocade if it can be broken by using ships flying the flags of "neutral" countries? Flags that in any case can't be seen at night... That was certainly not the german policy in WW2 (or in WW1 when the "neutral" Norwegian merchant fleet was decimated)

AVGWarhawk · 10-12-06, 08:07 AM

One has to understand that Hiltler directed certain things as to not bring in other countries into the war. Hilter named the time and the place to start a war with countries other than Poland, Britian, France. Neutrals being sunk was frowned on in Berlin so I guess the game gives you negative renown. Neutrals went in the convoys also, the Americans would patrol/escort to a certain latitude off the coast of the US eventhough we were not in the war yet. Putting in neutrals and getting bad press(less renown) is a great idea that was put into the game. GW took it further and now you get message with who you can sink and what date. Also, they have a book of flags in the UZO/periscope view with dates the neutrals became fair game.

LZ_Baker · 10-12-06, 08:26 AM

I sink them if they are in an enemy port. They sailed into the combat zone and docked...

mookiemookie · 10-12-06, 08:29 AM

[quote=Redwine]

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Originally Posted by stabiz

Dont worry ! some time i sink the Hospiatl Ship....

Hee hee....war criminal. Look up the Australian hospital ship Centaur sometime

Biggles · 10-12-06, 09:25 AM

Is renown taken away when you sink hospital ships in the mods?

Redwine · 10-12-06, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ECV56_PolTen

Been there, done that. My best patrol until now was ruined for sinking a "neutral", I had to "resign" my command of the U-46, a beatiful VIIB

Sh*t happens

Quien sos PolTen ?

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

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Originally Posted by Redwine

Dont worry ! some time i sink the Hospiatl Ship....

Hee hee....war criminal. Look up the Australian hospital ship Centaur sometime

That time i was executed.... when attempt to run the next mission..... a "dead" sentence apperas, may be for the masive loss of renown !!

Respenus · 10-12-06, 09:46 AM

Bad luck some would say. But forget the renown. If the loss is too big, then reload. If not, you'll have extra tonnage added!

The Munster · 10-12-06, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

One has to understand that Hiltler directed certain things as to not bring in other countries into the war. Hilter named the time and the place to start a war with countries other than Poland, Britian, France. Neutrals being sunk was frowned on in Berlin so I guess the game gives you negative renown. Neutrals went in the convoys also, the Americans would patrol/escort to a certain latitude off the coast of the US eventhough we were not in the war yet. Putting in neutrals and getting bad press(less renown) is a great idea that was put into the game. GW took it further and now you get message with who you can sink and what date. Also, they have a book of flags in the UZO/periscope view with dates the neutrals became fair game.

On the subject of flags, does anyone know what this is.. 3 horizontal bands of equal size, Top = light blue Middle = white Bottom = light blue

It was not in the UZO Flag section and I was in two minds whether to sink it or not ?!

kylania · 10-12-06, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Munson

On the subject of flags, does anyone know what this is.. 3 horizontal bands of equal size, Top = light blue Middle = white Bottom = light blue

It was not in the UZO Flag section and I was in two minds whether to sink it or not ?!

Either the Kriegsmarine signal flag for Ludwig used on the Bismarck (unlikely!) or the Nicaragua, El Salvador or Honduras flags perhaps? They were similar to that, blue/white/blue but each had a symbol in the middle.

Nicaragua WWII flag:

El Salvador WWII flag:

Honduras WWII Flag:

10-12-06, 06:16 AM	#1
Jacques Uzi Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Neutral, my $#%! It was a dark and stormy night in 1940. Well, actually it wasn't stormy, there was no wind. But it was very dark. Anyway, I was attacking a convoy headed for the Irish sea and fired a salvo at a c3. All three torpedoes hit, and it turned out that i had destroyed a "neutral unit". What is that supposed to mean? I assume it must have been an american ship, but so what? It was a part of a convoy belonging to Die verdammte Engländer

10-12-06, 06:52 AM	#3
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Potato-peeling for you! __________________

10-12-06, 07:23 AM	#5
ECV56_PolTen Sailor man Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ciudad Autónoma de Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 47 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Been there, done that. My best patrol until now was ruined for sinking a "neutral", I had to "resign" my command of the U-46, a beatiful VIIB Sht happens __________________ "Let us be proud of being Argentine... proud, even though they teach us to be ashamed" Com. (R) Pablo M. R. Carballo. "We are not here to see if we can; we can, that's why we are here" Grupo Técnico I "Comrades: confidence in victory, discipline, and three hails to the motherland!...Open fire, the people are watching us!*" Admiral Guillermo Brown

10-12-06, 08:07 AM	#8
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	One has to understand that Hiltler directed certain things as to not bring in other countries into the war. Hilter named the time and the place to start a war with countries other than Poland, Britian, France. Neutrals being sunk was frowned on in Berlin so I guess the game gives you negative renown. Neutrals went in the convoys also, the Americans would patrol/escort to a certain latitude off the coast of the US eventhough we were not in the war yet. Putting in neutrals and getting bad press(less renown) is a great idea that was put into the game. GW took it further and now you get message with who you can sink and what date. Also, they have a book of flags in the UZO/periscope view with dates the neutrals became fair game. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

10-12-06, 08:26 AM	#9
LZ_Baker Engineer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 213 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	I sink them if they are in an enemy port. They sailed into the combat zone and docked... __________________

10-12-06, 06:27 AM	#2
Kiwi Zero Six Bosun Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 61 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Convoys don't belong to countries, ships do.

10-12-06, 07:26 AM	#6
fredbass Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Port Richey, Fl, USA Posts: 1,066 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You can sink anything you want if you don't mind losing renown. If you blow up a hospital ship, it's like negative 10,000 or something like that and Hitler personally gets to pull your pants down on that one.

10-12-06, 07:41 AM	#7
Jacques Uzi Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What's the point of a naval blocade if it can be broken by using ships flying the flags of "neutral" countries? Flags that in any case can't be seen at night... That was certainly not the german policy in WW2 (or in WW1 when the "neutral" Norwegian merchant fleet was decimated)

10-12-06, 09:25 AM	#11
Biggles Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sweden (I'm not a Viking...) Posts: 3,529 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Is renown taken away when you sink hospital ships in the mods? __________________

10-12-06, 09:46 AM	#13
Respenus Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,169 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Bad luck some would say. But forget the renown. If the loss is too big, then reload. If not, you'll have extra tonnage added! __________________