What happened to the elberich and tarmatte?

Werewolf · 09-01-06, 12:10 PM

Could someone tell me where this feature is controlled? I mean, what file decides when alberich is availeble?

I have NYGM installed and it seems as if this feature has been removed with it. Not because I want to complain about the mod, I only want Alberich and Tarmatte available since this technology actually existed back then.

Shahed · 09-01-06, 03:19 PM

They are there. I have the anti sonar in late 42.

Werewolf · 09-01-06, 05:41 PM

:hmm:

@Shahed

Then I don't understand anything, ever since I installed NYGM all of the features in the Special equipment menu are gone

Shahed · 09-01-06, 06:15 PM

@ Werewolf

Oops sorry. Just reread your post. Thought you were talking about GW.
I've never played NYGM so I can't help you.

Werewolf · 09-01-06, 06:56 PM

@Shahed:

That's okay

thanks for trying anyway

Shahed · 09-02-06, 12:25 AM

Pleasure.

Someone else will be ale to help you.

Anachronous · 09-02-06, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Werewolf

Could someone tell me where this feature is controlled? I mean, what file decides when alberich is availeble?

I have NYGM installed and it seems as if this feature has been removed with it. Not because I want to complain about the mod, I only want Alberich and Tarmatte available since this technology actually existed back then.

I couldnt see the alberich at all. I had it before NYGM, but no longer had it after I installed NYGM. The Tarmatte showed up later in the war (1944 i noticed it), after i managed to skip 2 years by changing subs.

bigboywooly · 09-02-06, 12:35 AM

Alberich appears in the basic.cfg in cfg

[SPECIAL0]; anti sonar coatings
DaysSpent=1
Nb=2
NameIdx0=1303
Year0=1941
Month0=8
NbSub0=4
Sub00=0
Sub01=1
Sub02=2
Sub03=3
Renown0=1000
Name0=Alberich

NameIdx1=1304
Year1=1944
Month1=2
NbSub1=4
Sub10=0
Sub11=1
Sub12=2
Sub12=3
Renown1=2000
Name1=AlberichImproved

rowi58 · 09-02-06, 12:39 AM

@Werewolf,

all you need is the Basic.cfg. It is all inside this configuration file. Open the Basic.cfg and go to the bottom of the file. There (should) be the following entries:

-------
[SPECIAL0]; anti sonar coatings
DaysSpent=1
Nb=2
NameIdx0=1303
Year0=1941
Month0=8
NbSub0=4; number of sub-types, which can use this feature
Sub00=0; all type II subs
Sub01=1; all type VII subs
Sub02=2; all type IX subs
Sub03=3; all type XXI subs
Renown0=1000; "price" of this feature
Name0=Alberich

NameIdx1=1304
Year1=1944
Month1=2
NbSub1=4
Sub10=0
Sub11=1
Sub12=2
Sub12=3
Renown1=2000
Name1=AlberichImproved

[SPECIAL1]; anti radar coatings
DaysSpent=1
Nb=1
NameIdx0=1305
Year0=1944
Month0=1
NbSub0=4
Sub00=0
Sub01=1
Sub02=2
Sub03=3
Renown0=1500
Name0=Tarnmatte
------------------

See my comments in the SPECIAL0. If they are not there (or anywhere in the Basic.cfg), just add the entries above. Then go to every sub-type in the Basic.cfg. The folllowing exaple ist for the type II A:

go to: SUBMARINE_AMMO0
go to: YEAR0
at the end of this block (before the line RENOWN0=0), there must be the following two lines:
SonarCoatings_00=-1
RadarCoatings_00=-1

If not. add the two lines above. Repeat this for the following years (example: for year1 add:
SonarCoatings_10=-1
RadarCoatings_10=-1). And then, repeat this for all sub-types (you want to use with Tarnmatte and Alberich).

Note: the "-1" means you have to pay for this equipment. If you use the NameIdx instead of the "-1", this equipment will be standard.

Hope it helps.
rowi58

HW3 · 09-02-06, 01:36 AM

This is why it doesn't show up. Note the dates.

[SPECIAL0]; anti sonar coatings
DaysSpent=5
Nb=2
NameIdx0=1303
Year0=1945 ;1941
Month0=8
NbSub0=4
Sub00=0
Sub01=1
Sub02=2
Sub03=3
Renown0=1000
Name0=Alberich

NameIdx1=1304
Year1=1945 ;1944
Month1=8 ;2
NbSub1=4
Sub10=0
Sub11=1
Sub12=2
Sub12=3
Renown1=2000
Name1=AlberichImproved

[SPECIAL1]; anti radar coatings
DaysSpent=9 ;3
Nb=1
NameIdx0=1305
Year0=1944
Month0=1
NbSub0=4
Sub00=0
Sub01=1
Sub02=2
Sub03=3
Renown0=0 ;1500
Name0=Tarnmatte

The Alberich is not scheduled to show up till August of 1945.:hmm:

bigboywooly · 09-02-06, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HW3

This is why it doesn't show up. Note the dates.

[SPECIAL0]; anti sonar coatings
DaysSpent=5
Nb=2
NameIdx0=1303
Year0=1945 ;1941
Month0=8
NbSub0=4
Sub00=0
Sub01=1
Sub02=2
Sub03=3
Renown0=1000
Name0=Alberich

NameIdx1=1304
Year1=1945 ;1944
Month1=8 ;2
NbSub1=4
Sub10=0
Sub11=1
Sub12=2
Sub12=3
Renown1=2000
Name1=AlberichImproved

[SPECIAL1]; anti radar coatings
DaysSpent=9 ;3
Nb=1
NameIdx0=1305
Year0=1944
Month0=1
NbSub0=4
Sub00=0
Sub01=1
Sub02=2
Sub03=3
Renown0=0 ;1500
Name0=Tarnmatte

The Alberich is not scheduled to show up till August of 1945.:hmm:

Lmao you will be at home with your feet up then :rotfl:
Maybe its for the Russians benefit afterwards

Stiebler · 09-02-06, 06:34 AM

Alberich was an anti-asdic coating introduced late in the war, suffered from technical problems (like flaking off), and only two U-boats ever actually took it into a war patrol (so far as I can recall).

In the basic SH3 game, Alberich is offered far too early, and was never more than an experiment anyway.

So NYGM disabled it by the simplest means - dating it to after the end of the war.

Stiebler.

Anachronous · 09-02-06, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiebler

Alberich was an anti-asdic coating introduced late in the war, suffered from technical problems (like flaking off), and only two U-boats ever actually took it into a war patrol (so far as I can recall).

In the basic SH3 game, Alberich is offered far too early, and was never more than an experiment anyway.

So NYGM disabled it by the simplest means - dating it to after the end of the war.

Stiebler.

One point of view would be..

Seeing the game is all about the player, sometimes its nice to alter history slightly, as simply by playing it, that is what you are doing.

The player's boat being 1 of those 2 boats to use alberich, as its assumed the player is the best uboat captain in the war and is awarded these privileges, due to being best to test them successfully.

In my opinion it should be there, but possibly not at such an early date.

Werewolf · 09-02-06, 02:59 PM

Holy sh... so many replies and again I was not noticed by my e-mail.

Thank you very much all of you!!

I had imagined that the date was altered, I just did not know what file it was in, excellent

Werewolf · 09-02-06, 03:07 PM

@Stiebler:

No, actually it was invented and on trials already in april 1940, according to this link anyway: http://www.uboataces.com/sonar-coating.shtml , I remember having read, I think it was at uboat net, not sure, that is was available already in the early 40's. It was then forgotten about for some years due to bad adhesive capabilities, but then improved and came back again late 44/early 45, so I just thought that if it was available already in 1940-42 why the hell not on my boat then

09-01-06, 12:10 PM	#1
Werewolf Sonar Guy Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 394 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	What happened to the elberich and tarmatte? Could someone tell me where this feature is controlled? I mean, what file decides when alberich is availeble? I have NYGM installed and it seems as if this feature has been removed with it. Not because I want to complain about the mod, I only want Alberich and Tarmatte available since this technology actually existed back then.

09-02-06, 12:35 AM	#8
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Alberich appears in the basic.cfg in cfg [SPECIAL0]; anti sonar coatings DaysSpent=1 Nb=2 NameIdx0=1303 Year0=1941 Month0=8 NbSub0=4 Sub00=0 Sub01=1 Sub02=2 Sub03=3 Renown0=1000 Name0=Alberich NameIdx1=1304 Year1=1944 Month1=2 NbSub1=4 Sub10=0 Sub11=1 Sub12=2 Sub12=3 Renown1=2000 Name1=AlberichImproved __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

09-02-06, 01:36 AM	#10
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	This is why it doesn't show up. Note the dates. [SPECIAL0]; anti sonar coatings DaysSpent=5 Nb=2 NameIdx0=1303 Year0=1945 ;1941 Month0=8 NbSub0=4 Sub00=0 Sub01=1 Sub02=2 Sub03=3 Renown0=1000 Name0=Alberich NameIdx1=1304 Year1=1945 ;1944 Month1=8 ;2 NbSub1=4 Sub10=0 Sub11=1 Sub12=2 Sub12=3 Renown1=2000 Name1=AlberichImproved [SPECIAL1]; anti radar coatings DaysSpent=9 ;3 Nb=1 NameIdx0=1305 Year0=1944 Month0=1 NbSub0=4 Sub00=0 Sub01=1 Sub02=2 Sub03=3 Renown0=0 ;1500 Name0=Tarnmatte The Alberich is not scheduled to show up till August of 1945.:hmm: __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

09-01-06, 03:19 PM	#2
Shahed Planesman Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 189 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	They are there. I have the anti sonar in late 42.

09-01-06, 05:41 PM	#3
Werewolf Sonar Guy Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 394 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	:hmm: @Shahed Then I don't understand anything, ever since I installed NYGM all of the features in the Special equipment menu are gone

09-01-06, 06:15 PM	#4
Shahed Planesman Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 189 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	@ Werewolf Oops sorry. Just reread your post. Thought you were talking about GW. I've never played NYGM so I can't help you.

09-01-06, 06:56 PM	#5
Werewolf Sonar Guy Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 394 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	@Shahed: That's okay thanks for trying anyway

09-02-06, 12:25 AM	#6
Shahed Planesman Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 189 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Pleasure. Someone else will be ale to help you.

09-02-06, 12:39 AM	#9
rowi58 Eternal Patrol Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Karlsruhe Posts: 679 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	@Werewolf, all you need is the Basic.cfg. It is all inside this configuration file. Open the Basic.cfg and go to the bottom of the file. There (should) be the following entries: ------- [SPECIAL0]; anti sonar coatings DaysSpent=1 Nb=2 NameIdx0=1303 Year0=1941 Month0=8 NbSub0=4; number of sub-types, which can use this feature Sub00=0; all type II subs Sub01=1; all type VII subs Sub02=2; all type IX subs Sub03=3; all type XXI subs Renown0=1000; "price" of this feature Name0=Alberich NameIdx1=1304 Year1=1944 Month1=2 NbSub1=4 Sub10=0 Sub11=1 Sub12=2 Sub12=3 Renown1=2000 Name1=AlberichImproved [SPECIAL1]; anti radar coatings DaysSpent=1 Nb=1 NameIdx0=1305 Year0=1944 Month0=1 NbSub0=4 Sub00=0 Sub01=1 Sub02=2 Sub03=3 Renown0=1500 Name0=Tarnmatte ------------------ See my comments in the SPECIAL0. If they are not there (or anywhere in the Basic.cfg), just add the entries above. Then go to every sub-type in the Basic.cfg. The folllowing exaple ist for the type II A: go to: SUBMARINE_AMMO0 go to: YEAR0 at the end of this block (before the line RENOWN0=0), there must be the following two lines: SonarCoatings_00=-1 RadarCoatings_00=-1 If not. add the two lines above. Repeat this for the following years (example: for year1 add: SonarCoatings_10=-1 RadarCoatings_10=-1). And then, repeat this for all sub-types (you want to use with Tarnmatte and Alberich). Note: the "-1" means you have to pay for this equipment. If you use the NameIdx instead of the "-1", this equipment will be standard. Hope it helps. rowi58

09-02-06, 06:34 AM	#12
Stiebler Fuel Supplier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,237 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 4	Alberich was an anti-asdic coating introduced late in the war, suffered from technical problems (like flaking off), and only two U-boats ever actually took it into a war patrol (so far as I can recall). In the basic SH3 game, Alberich is offered far too early, and was never more than an experiment anyway. So NYGM disabled it by the simplest means - dating it to after the end of the war. Stiebler.

09-02-06, 02:59 PM	#14
Werewolf Sonar Guy Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 394 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	Holy sh... so many replies and again I was not noticed by my e-mail. Thank you very much all of you!! I had imagined that the date was altered, I just did not know what file it was in, excellent

09-02-06, 03:07 PM	#15
Werewolf Sonar Guy Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 394 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	@Stiebler: No, actually it was invented and on trials already in april 1940, according to this link anyway: http://www.uboataces.com/sonar-coating.shtml , I remember having read, I think it was at uboat net, not sure, that is was available already in the early 40's. It was then forgotten about for some years due to bad adhesive capabilities, but then improved and came back again late 44/early 45, so I just thought that if it was available already in 1940-42 why the hell not on my boat then