3rd try for me: TFT

Skybird · 09-05-06, 04:02 PM

I see that a TFT is limited to a fixed screen resolution, for true 19" for example 1280x1024 pixels. does this mean that you also need a graphic card that is capable to run all your wanted software in 1280 res mode, too, or is there something like scaling process working in the background? does that eat ressources, or do frames with a given game do not change a bit if I leave all graphics and other options as they were, only connect to a new TFT?

Third time in 12 months now that I seriously come to think about a new monitor, my old CTR dies a slow death since that time. It has now reached a stage of producing suspicious crispy sounds and a slight lack of sharpness in display, while colours and brightness still do very fine. It's from 1997 or 98.

Recommended TFT's (4:3, visible 19") currently, for 300 euros? Have asked that before, but that was half a year (and a full year) ago. Intended use: I do racing extremely rarely these days, and flying also has come to a record low. action games: rarely, when I had a desperate day and need motivation

Chess, hexfield-strategy and of course Steel Beasts are left of what I play regularly. Beyond that, Word, and minor picture processing, stuff like that - not graphic demanding.

Skybird · 09-05-06, 04:46 PM

Good model?http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/tech...1128&s=gateway

Wim Libaers · 09-05-06, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

I see that a TFT is limited to a fixed screen resolution, for true 19" for example 1280x1024 pixels. does this mean that you also need a graphic card that is capable to run all your wanted software in 1280 res mode, too, or is there something like scaling process working in the background? does that eat ressources, or do frames with a given game do not change a bit if I leave all graphics and other options as they were, only connect to a new TFT?

No problem, the monitor can do the scaling. But it may look bad, depending on the monitor and which image you're viewing.

jumpy · 09-06-06, 07:14 PM

I have a similar dilema concerning a manufacturer 'swap out' warranty.
My 19" iiyama CRT went bang a while back, then the currier company delivering a replacement broke it in the back of one of their vans. About a week ago iiyama sent me a letter asking if I wanted to buy a 19" TFT from them instead, at half the shop retail price, due to availability of reconditioned CRT's I guess.
Because I do alot of CAD stuff at home on my pc I'd prefer to stick with the tried and tested CRT platform, as to my knowlege TFT's just don't have the same image quality of a good CRT monitor, not to mention the fixed native resolution the monitor is set to.
I guess I'm just going to have to wait some more...

DAB · 09-06-06, 07:41 PM

The conventional wisdom is that a good CRT monitor will always have a better image quality then a TFT

however...

I use a laptop with Sony's X-Black TFT technology - and that screen easily outperforms the Trinitron CRT I've used on my Desktop units. They are more expensive, but the latest generation TFT technologies are now beginning to (finally) match CRT

The Noob · 09-06-06, 10:16 PM

I'll Stick with TFT, seriously. I had Various "Normal" screens, and TFT is IMHO the More modern and better System. I can't Believe someone is Still using that Accient CRT ones...

I have a 19" i think, and always used 1024 x 768 Resolution and it always Worked Very Well at all.

Perilscope · 09-06-06, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Noob

I'll Stick with TFT, seriously. I had Various "Normal" screens, and TFT is IMHO the More modern and better System. I can't Believe someone is Still using that Accient CRT ones...

My thoughts too!

I previously had a top of the line CRT(P95f+), and it will never beat my LCD(VP920b), which is top rated too. The brightness/contrast and overall performance is unbeatable compared to before.

How many times in the passed, some of my customers called me and said that certain images I yielded wasn't good enough, I always wondered why, but then I started to notice that all the ones that complained had an LCD screen. I thought having one of the best CRT was good enough for my line of work, yet I was only dreaming. Ever since I got the LCD, no more complaints... now I can see every little detail and yield superior images.

Therefore, if you ask me, CRT is old tech... Oh, I almost forgot, my eyes doesn't fatigue anymore, I guess CRT radiates eh!

Winston · 09-07-06, 01:04 AM

First time I got my Viewsonic VP930 it amazed me with its picture quality. In its native resolution (1280 by 1024) each pixel is a tiny pinpoint square dot. The colours are rich and vibrant and I’ve never been disappointed with it playing games as the refresh rate is very quick. (Steel Beasts looks amazing with this monitor and x4 AA)

It will display in other resolutions however the picture quality is nowhere near is good.

My advice Skybird is to take your time and have a good look to see what is the best you can get with your cash. It might be worth investing a little more for something of better quality, but that’s your call. Check out sites like Toms hardware and others to see what the general buzz is about things. Good hunting.

Edit: Here is a link to my monitor I use, but keep an open mind and buy only when your certain of what your looking for.

http://www.amazon.de/Viewsonic-VP930...926609?ie=UTF8

Skybird · 09-07-06, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Winston

Steel Beasts looks amazing with this monitor and x4 AA)

That's certainly an argument worth to keep in mind

However, I also need to invest in a new graphic card (again), and since AGP is dying out, choice can only be to get a new nVidia 6800 (after getting burned with a Radeon two months ago). The need for this additional investement limits the price for the monitor for me. That'S why I asked about the Samsung 930 (260 Euros).

09-05-06, 04:02 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,615 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	3rd try for me: TFT I see that a TFT is limited to a fixed screen resolution, for true 19" for example 1280x1024 pixels. does this mean that you also need a graphic card that is capable to run all your wanted software in 1280 res mode, too, or is there something like scaling process working in the background? does that eat ressources, or do frames with a given game do not change a bit if I leave all graphics and other options as they were, only connect to a new TFT? Third time in 12 months now that I seriously come to think about a new monitor, my old CTR dies a slow death since that time. It has now reached a stage of producing suspicious crispy sounds and a slight lack of sharpness in display, while colours and brightness still do very fine. It's from 1997 or 98. Recommended TFT's (4:3, visible 19") currently, for 300 euros? Have asked that before, but that was half a year (and a full year) ago. Intended use: I do racing extremely rarely these days, and flying also has come to a record low. action games: rarely, when I had a desperate day and need motivation Chess, hexfield-strategy and of course Steel Beasts are left of what I play regularly. Beyond that, Word, and minor picture processing, stuff like that - not graphic demanding. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-05-06, 04:46 PM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,615 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Good model?http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/tech...1128&s=gateway __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-06-06, 07:14 PM	#4
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	I have a similar dilema concerning a manufacturer 'swap out' warranty. My 19" iiyama CRT went bang a while back, then the currier company delivering a replacement broke it in the back of one of their vans. About a week ago iiyama sent me a letter asking if I wanted to buy a 19" TFT from them instead, at half the shop retail price, due to availability of reconditioned CRT's I guess. Because I do alot of CAD stuff at home on my pc I'd prefer to stick with the tried and tested CRT platform, as to my knowlege TFT's just don't have the same image quality of a good CRT monitor, not to mention the fixed native resolution the monitor is set to. I guess I'm just going to have to wait some more... __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

09-06-06, 07:41 PM	#5
DAB Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 263 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	The conventional wisdom is that a good CRT monitor will always have a better image quality then a TFT however... I use a laptop with Sony's X-Black TFT technology - and that screen easily outperforms the Trinitron CRT I've used on my Desktop units. They are more expensive, but the latest generation TFT technologies are now beginning to (finally) match CRT __________________ ...snorting / snorkelling after several years of silent running.

09-07-06, 01:04 AM	#8
Winston Wild Night in Bangkok Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wales Posts: 179 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	First time I got my Viewsonic VP930 it amazed me with its picture quality. In its native resolution (1280 by 1024) each pixel is a tiny pinpoint square dot. The colours are rich and vibrant and I’ve never been disappointed with it playing games as the refresh rate is very quick. (Steel Beasts looks amazing with this monitor and x4 AA) It will display in other resolutions however the picture quality is nowhere near is good. My advice Skybird is to take your time and have a good look to see what is the best you can get with your cash. It might be worth investing a little more for something of better quality, but that’s your call. Check out sites like Toms hardware and others to see what the general buzz is about things. Good hunting. Edit: Here is a link to my monitor I use, but keep an open mind and buy only when your certain of what your looking for. http://www.amazon.de/Viewsonic-VP930...926609?ie=UTF8 __________________ "Don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash" Last edited by Winston; 09-07-06 at 01:12 AM.

09-06-06, 10:16 PM	#6
The Noob The Old Man Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: de_dust2 Posts: 1,417 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'll Stick with TFT, seriously. I had Various "Normal" screens, and TFT is IMHO the More modern and better System. I can't Believe someone is Still using that Accient CRT ones... I have a 19" i think, and always used 1024 x 768 Resolution and it always Worked Very Well at all.