Efficiency question

Harry Buttle · 09-11-05, 12:32 AM

When you transfer crew into a compartment, the green bar at the top moves to the right, indicating increasing efficiency.

Assuming that I have it half full of crew and the green bar is all the way over to the right, is their any benefit to putting more crew in that compartment or should I put those guys elsewhere?

Kpt. Lehmann · 09-11-05, 01:07 AM

The answer isn't simple. It depends on the situation. Also, it stands to reason that continuing to add fresh crew to a compartment with a full green bar will keep it full longer.

Situational Example: You have plotted a course to intercept a convoy hours distant. Variations in your speed equal variations in success of intercept. Inefficient engine compartments will translate into varying speed and increase your error factor.... so keep that bar full and the engines at flank!

Harry Buttle · 09-11-05, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

The answer isn't simple. It depends on the situation. Also, it stands to reason that continuing to add fresh crew to a compartment with a full green bar will keep it full longer.

Situational Example: You have plotted a course to intercept a convoy hours distant. Variations in your speed equal variations in success of intercept. Inefficient engine compartments will translate into varying speed and increase your error factor.... so keep that bar full and the engines at flank!

I think you misunderstand the question, I want to know if there is any advantage in adding more crew at the time.

ie if the green bar is full (call it at 100%), if I add more crew, can my efficiency go to 110% or will it just stay at 100%?

Gizzmoe · 09-11-05, 03:11 AM

It stays at 100%.

By the way, the maximum speed is always the same, no matter if the engine room bar is half-green or full-green.

Kpt. Lehmann · 09-11-05, 03:52 AM

That's odd... I have experienced fluctuations.

... Maybe it was weather/wave related.

Col7777 · 09-11-05, 03:56 AM

I've often thought of tweaking the crew, I wondered if I had a better watch crew on the bridge would they see the smoke on the horizon the same time as I do.

Gizzmoe · 09-11-05, 04:01 AM

That wonÂ´t help, Col. As sensors.cfg says: "Visual uses crew efficiency=false". Even the worst bridge crew spots ships at the same distance as a veteran crew.

rulle34 · 09-11-05, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

That wonÂ´t help, Col. As sensors.cfg says: "Visual uses crew efficiency=false". Even the worst bridge crew spots ships at the same distance as a veteran crew.

Gizzmoe!
Can you explain this for me? I tried both settings, tru/false on watch crew and couldn't notice any difference. Maybe I didn't tried it out long enough!

Gizzmoe · 09-11-05, 05:56 AM

I have never tried "true". Maybe itÂ´s a feature that "true" doesnÂ´t work for visual sensors, means that "false" is hardcoded.

U-104 · 09-11-05, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

It stays at 100%.

By the way, the maximum speed is always the same, no matter if the engine room bar is half-green or full-green.

no i Have experienced different speeds in good weather.

U-104 · 09-11-05, 07:58 PM

btw, Gizzmoe, did you get a new avatar?

Twelvefield · 09-11-05, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

That's odd... I have experienced fluctuations.

... Maybe it was weather/wave related.

If your getting lost of runny fluctuations, probably it's a good idea to check on the "Best Before" date when your are eating things right out of the fridge.

As far as your sub is concerned, it and all shipping are subject to the forces of wind and waves, at least to a certain extent.

Kpt. Lehmann · 09-11-05, 11:56 PM

Roger that Twelvfield. I will start checking the expiration dates personally... and ensuring all fungus is removed from rations prior to consuming them.

I will also have a chat with the third watchman... I seem to recall him mentioning mushrooms with unusual frequency.

I have also noted that in very heavy seas, the sub will periodically switch to electrics... which could account for variations. (happens when momentarily submerged in big waves.)

... Now why are the walls rippling?

Gizzmoe · 09-12-05, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by U-104

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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

By the way, the maximum speed is always the same, no matter if the engine room bar is half-green or full-green.

no i Have experienced different speeds in good weather.

Sure, but that wasnÂ´t because the engine room crew got fatigued. In the same exact weather condition the crew experience does not influence the speed of the boat.

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btw, Gizzmoe, did you get a new avatar?

Yeah, it switched with my 1700th post. I donÂ´t like it yet...

Shahed · 08-31-06, 12:34 AM

good thread. Now I have a similar question.

My engine room runs at maximum green bar with One officer machinist and one petty machinist. Both have Gold Cross. My questions are:

-If I add more crew to that compartment, for example, 7 more petty machinists, what effect does this have ?
-Again ... more than 100% efficiency ?
-Does it add more range ?
-Does it mean less fatigue for each individual member ?

Since I only need 2 people in the engine room, if the other 5 petty machinists have no effect I could convert them.

For the visual detection, I'd like to make my crew be able to see things like I can when I am on brideg. I looked at this thread:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ght=efficiency

Now I'd like to improve their spotting capability and the ability of my flak gunners to shoot quicker. Can anyone plase give me some insturctions on how to change this.

thanks for the help !

09-11-05, 12:32 AM	#1
Harry Buttle Soundman Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 144 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Efficiency question When you transfer crew into a compartment, the green bar at the top moves to the right, indicating increasing efficiency. Assuming that I have it half full of crew and the green bar is all the way over to the right, is their any benefit to putting more crew in that compartment or should I put those guys elsewhere?

09-11-05, 01:07 AM	#2
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,993 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	The answer isn't simple. It depends on the situation. Also, it stands to reason that continuing to add fresh crew to a compartment with a full green bar will keep it full longer. Situational Example: You have plotted a course to intercept a convoy hours distant. Variations in your speed equal variations in success of intercept. Inefficient engine compartments will translate into varying speed and increase your error factor.... so keep that bar full and the engines at flank! __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

09-11-05, 03:52 AM	#5
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,993 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	That's odd... I have experienced fluctuations. ... Maybe it was weather/wave related. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

09-11-05, 03:56 AM	#6
Col7777 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 944 Downloads: 260 Uploads: 0	I've often thought of tweaking the crew, I wondered if I had a better watch crew on the bridge would they see the smoke on the horizon the same time as I do. __________________ Silent and Violent

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U-104 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: United States Posts: 797 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 0	btw, Gizzmoe, did you get a new avatar? __________________ My heart is steadfast, O God. I will sing and make music with all my soul. Ps. 108:1 Survival of the fittest does not explain arrival of the fittest. we live in a single spoken sentence.. "God said, let there be"

09-11-05, 03:11 AM	#4
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	It stays at 100%. By the way, the maximum speed is always the same, no matter if the engine room bar is half-green or full-green.

09-11-05, 04:01 AM	#7
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	That wonÂ´t help, Col. As sensors.cfg says: "Visual uses crew efficiency=false". Even the worst bridge crew spots ships at the same distance as a veteran crew.

09-11-05, 05:56 AM	#9
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I have never tried "true". Maybe itÂ´s a feature that "true" doesnÂ´t work for visual sensors, means that "false" is hardcoded.

09-11-05, 11:56 PM	#13
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,993 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Roger that Twelvfield. I will start checking the expiration dates personally... and ensuring all fungus is removed from rations prior to consuming them. I will also have a chat with the third watchman... I seem to recall him mentioning mushrooms with unusual frequency. I have also noted that in very heavy seas, the sub will periodically switch to electrics... which could account for variations. (happens when momentarily submerged in big waves.) ... Now why are the walls rippling? __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

08-31-06, 12:34 AM	#15
Shahed Planesman Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 189 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	good thread. Now I have a similar question. My engine room runs at maximum green bar with One officer machinist and one petty machinist. Both have Gold Cross. My questions are: -If I add more crew to that compartment, for example, 7 more petty machinists, what effect does this have ? -Again ... more than 100% efficiency ? -Does it add more range ? -Does it mean less fatigue for each individual member ? Since I only need 2 people in the engine room, if the other 5 petty machinists have no effect I could convert them. For the visual detection, I'd like to make my crew be able to see things like I can when I am on brideg. I looked at this thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ght=efficiency Now I'd like to improve their spotting capability and the ability of my flak gunners to shoot quicker. Can anyone plase give me some insturctions on how to change this. thanks for the help !