India's turn (again)

[The Avon Lady]

Up to 100 feared dead in Bombay blasts.

At Least 8 Dead in Kashmir Grenade Attacks.

[Skybird]

Let's protect Pakistan from the Indian rethoric. Pakistan is a close and reliable ally in our war on terror.

[sergbuto]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Let's protect Pakistan from the Indian rethoric. Pakistan is a close and reliable ally in our war on terror.

Not to mention a very democratic Pakistanian government.

[STEED]

I would not be surprised if these bombings are stepped up in these country's, objective to turn these country's against the west. We must not let this happen, we must help these country's to fight back against these cowards.

[tycho102]

Originally Posted by sergbuto

Not to mention a very democratic Pakistanian government.

And, by the will of Allah, you can bet your shiny white noggin' that it's going to stay a very democratic Pakistanian government after Musharraf dies. Dude, that place will soar right into tribal warefare for a good decade before one ayatollah surfaces to rule them all. One ayatollah to find them, One ayatollah to bring them all, and in the darkness, bind them.

As for India, the bombing is terrible, of course. They've got something like a 30% moslem population with more flooding across their borders (I don't know exactly, but I'd bet they've got 16,000km of border). They're going to have to do something about their moslems, that much is certain to me.

The Spanish Inquisition, like Joseph Mccarthy, sought to root out infiltrators. It's probably about time for an Indian Inquisition. No one expects the Indian Inquisition!

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by sergbuto

Not to mention a very democratic Pakistanian government.

Should Pakistan's military rulership disappear, Pakistan will become Saudi Arabia No. 2, with all the implications bundled along with it.

Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.

[August]

I see the Religion of Peace strikes again!

[Vinay]

Originally Posted by tycho102

And, by the will of Allah, you can bet your shiny white noggin' that it's going to stay a very democratic Pakistanian government after Musharraf dies. Dude, that place will soar right into tribal warefare for a good decade before one ayatollah surfaces to rule them all. One ayatollah to find them, One ayatollah to bring them all, and in the darkness, bind them.

As for India, the bombing is terrible, of course. They've got something like a 30% moslem population with more flooding across their borders (I don't know exactly, but I'd bet they've got 16,000km of border). They're going to have to do something about their moslems, that much is certain to me.

The Spanish Inquisition, like Joseph Mccarthy, sought to root out infiltrators. It's probably about time for an Indian Inquisition. No one expects the Indian Inquisition!

Musharaff and his military=Ayatollah's in military uniform.

Pallone has asked Pak to dismantle the terror infrastructure and take action against terrorist organistaion operating from Pakistan.
http://www.financialexpress.com/late...tent_id=134535

[scandium]

Originally Posted by Vinay

Musharaff and his military=Ayatollah's in military uniform.

Pallone has asked Pak to dismantle the terror infrastructure and take action against terrorist organistaion operating from Pakistan.
http://www.financialexpress.com/late...tent_id=134535

Hey its not nice to speak of a close American strategic partner like this, especially at a time when the US is planning to sell them $5 billion worth of F-16s.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060703/...akistan_usa_dc

Don't you know the U.S. is trying to foster human rights and democracy in the ME and that this is all part of the plan? Get with the program man!

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2004/41743.htm

February 28, 2005

Pakistan is a federal republic. Chief of Army Staff Pervez Musharraf overthrew the elected civilian government in 1999. The Supreme Court later legitimized the overthrow, but ordered Musharraf to restore elected government within 3 years. Musharraf assumed the Presidency by decree in 2001. In 2002, a controversial national referendum affirmed Musharraf as President for 5 years. Elections for the National Assembly were held in 2002. Domestic and international observers termed the elections deeply flawed. Musharraf's Pakistan Muslim League (PML) won a plurality of seats and formed a governing coalition with several smaller parties. Indirect Senate elections in February 2003 gave the governing coalition 55 of 100 seats. In December 2003, the National and Provincial Assemblies passed the 17th Amendment to the Constitution. The Amendment transfers a number of powers from the Office of Prime Minister to the President, affirms Musharraf's presidency through 2007, sets the terms under which the President could dissolve the National Assembly, and exempts Musharraf from a prohibition on holding two offices of state until the end of the year, allowing him to remain as Chief of Army Staff. In October, over opposition protests, Parliament passed another bill that exploits a loophole in the Constitution to extend the exemption until 2007. The judiciary was nominally independent but remained subject to corruption and political pressure.

...

The Government's human rights record remained poor; although there were some improvements in several areas, serious problems remained. In 2002, citizens participated in national government elections, although many observers found serious flaws in their legal framework. Local police used excessive force and committed or failed to prevent extrajudicial killings. Sectarian killings continued to be a problem. Police abused and raped citizens. Prison conditions remained extremely poor, and police arbitrarily arrested and detained citizens. Some political leaders remained imprisoned or in exile abroad. Case backlogs led to long delays in trials, and lengthy pretrial detention was common. The judiciary was subject to executive and other outside influence. Corruption and inefficiency remained severe problems. The Government violated due process and infringed on citizens' privacy rights. The press was partly free and in some instances, the Government took retaliatory actions against media outlets and journalists; however, media criticism of security forces and the Government continued to increase during the year. The Government imposed some limits on freedom of association, religion, and movement. Governmental and societal discrimination against religious minorities remained a problem. Domestic violence against women, rape, and abuse of children remained serious problems. Honor killings continued; however, new legislation stiffens penalties for honor killings; and criminal procedures for the blasphemy laws and Hudood Ordinances were changed to prevent abuses. Discrimination against women was widespread, and traditional social and legal constraints generally kept women in a subordinate position in society. Trafficking in women and children for the purposes of forced prostitution and bonded labor, and the use of child labor remained widespread. Workers' rights were restricted, and debt slavery remained a problem.

"Some have tried to pose a choice between American ideals and American interests — between who we are and how we act. But the choice is false. America, by decision and destiny, promotes political freedom — and gains the most when democracy advances." G.W. Bush 11/19, 1999.

Yep. Freedom is on the March. In Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and Iraq. Repeat after me: Freedom is on the march. Got it? Good.

[Skybird]

Peace at all costs is not acceptable. It's not a goal one should head for, but a consequence that follows the defeating of intolerance, supremacy-thinking, aggression and hate. Against such a faction that does not stick to it's own affairs so that it can be ignored, fighting is the only option.Comparable thing could be said about freedom.

[tycho102]

Boy, I tell you. I'm about ready for a scorched earth campaign. General Sherman style. A cubic kilometer of napalm.

Scorched Earth.