"Wild Boar Barbecue for Mr. & Mrs. Bush"

Dan D · 07-12-06, 10:43 AM

Alaaarm, Bush, President of "Amur-cah" is coming for a visit to Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania.
Georgie is visiting Angie.
Here is a fine article from DW-World.de Deutsche Welle:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,...081444,00.html

STEED · 07-12-06, 01:23 PM

I hear there's a rumour knocking about that George has fallen off the waggon back on the alcohol. Is this true? :hmm:

August · 07-12-06, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

I hear there's a rumour knocking about that George has fallen off the waggon back on the alcohol. Is this true? :hmm:

His political opposition has insinuated that since his first election. Believe me, if there were any truth to it it'd be much more than a mere rumor.

SUBMAN1 · 07-12-06, 02:47 PM

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I hear there's a rumour knocking about that George has fallen off the waggon back on the alcohol. Is this true? :hmm:

His political opposition has insinuated that since his first election. Believe me, if there were any truth to it it'd be much more than a mere rumor.

I'd bet the press would have a field day with that one!

Man, I do not envy Bush. You can see he has aged over the years with all the agonizing decisions he has to make and all the negativity that somes with the damned if you do damned if you don't white house territory. THose press guys lately don't care what decision he makes - for the good or the bad - they always look for the negative side to things to sensationlize a story in the name of profit. Seems our American system is working well out here it would seem - profit is now the only motivator regardless the story and ethics have been tossed out the window.

As a result of all this, I have become a NPR avid listener since I want stright news, not over hyped over sensationlized crap. At least with NPR, you get to make your own decisions about things most of the time, because they bring both sides of the story, and they are non-profit.

-S

Skybird · 07-12-06, 03:20 PM

He is definitely not welcomed by the clear majority of Germans. He better gets over with whatever kind of business he and Angiebabe think he has to do, and then leave us quickly again, the sooner the better (maybe take Angiebabe with him, that would be a fair compensation...). The ruling governmental parties (!) of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern are boycotting him, btw. Note that it is the man being the target of the antipathy in Germany, not the country and the people of the US.

SUBMAN1 · 07-12-06, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

He is definitely not welcomed by the clear majority of Germans. He better gets over with whatever kind of business he and Angiebabe think he has to do, and then leave us quickly again, the sooner the better (maybe take Angiebabe with him, that would be a fair compensation...). The ruling governmental parties (!) of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern are boycotting him, btw. Note that it is the man being the target of the antipathy in Germany, not the country and the people of the US.

Incorrect - He represents the US of A, and if you hate him, you hate us. Period.

-S

STEED · 07-12-06, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

He is definitely not welcomed by the clear majority of Germans. He better gets over with whatever kind of business he and Angiebabe think he has to do, and then leave us quickly again, the sooner the better (maybe take Angiebabe with him, that would be a fair compensation...). The ruling governmental parties (!) of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern are boycotting him, btw. Note that it is the man being the target of the antipathy in Germany, not the country and the people of the US.

Incorrect - He represents the US of A, and if you hate him, you hate us. Period.

-S

Careful Skybird, I think you just got a friendly warning.

August · 07-12-06, 04:49 PM

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He better gets over with whatever kind of business he and Angiebabe think he has to do, and then leave us quickly again,

Or what? You guys gonna invade Poland again? Submans right. Whatever his faults he represents us and therefore anything you do to him you do to us.

Skybird · 07-12-06, 04:51 PM

Quatsch. Don't try to be absurd, both of you. Heads don't pass through walls.

You guys did not like Schroeder. No German I knew concluded by that that you or the ordinary american man "hate" us Germans - although officially Schroeder represented Germany.

SUBMAN1 · 07-12-06, 05:31 PM

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Quatsch. Don't try to be absurd, both of you. Heads don't pass through walls.

You guys did not like Schroeder. No German I knew concluded by that that you or the ordinary american man "hate" us Germans - although officially Schroeder represented Germany.

I didn't hate Schroeder. I thought he was an OK leader. Bush - same. We elected him twice (not once) because he is who we wanted. So to hate him is to hate us that elected him. He is our voice and he is whom we wanted to be leader and I think he has a very tough job, and from what I can see, does a damn good job of it too from what he has to work with.

My only issue with Bush - he is not as heavy handed in dealing with terrorists and rogue states like leaders in the past have been. If we had an Eisenhower, we would be involved in many more battles right now for the good of the world. Crap - he would have already bombed Iran and NK.

-S

Ducimus · 07-12-06, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

He is definitely not welcomed by the clear majority of Germans.

Incorrect - He represents the US of A, and if you hate him, you hate us. Period.

-S

Uh, no. Not everyone in the country voted for his happy ass. Granted the selection sucked, but still. You can hate bush and still like or love the US if you want to.

SUBMAN1 · 07-12-06, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

He is definitely not welcomed by the clear majority of Germans.

Incorrect - He represents the US of A, and if you hate him, you hate us. Period.

-S

Uh, no. Not everyone in the country voted for his happy ass. Granted the selection sucked, but still. You can hate bush and still like or love the US if you want to.

Doesn't work like that - a majority selected him, so you are dealing with the majority or most of America. So just like anywhere, there is always a guy that doesn't follow the majority, but as it stands now he represents us as elected for another 2 and 1/2 years.

-S

PS. The choice from the other side could have been worse - could have been Hillary! :p

Ducimus · 07-12-06, 06:02 PM

Mans a divider, not a uniter. Since you want to cite majority, last polls i saw show the majority now dispprove of the man. Spout red white and blue flag waving rhetoric all you want to, but the fact remains the nation is divided poltically over this man. For proof of that, all one has to do is realize that Bush himself, is a touchy subject, even amongst your own countryman. So to say to someone of another nation to hate bush is to hate the US, is absurd. Going by that rehtoric, then a large percentage of Americans hate their own country, and that just isnt true.

Skybird · 07-12-06, 06:16 PM

the old debate we had so often - is a result of 51:49 a valid argument to say that 51% effectivly must be read as 100%, or is it closer to say it is half:half.

We know where it will lead to - nowhere. Let's better fight about who has the better HOTAS, you American guy that I hate so much!

That someone likes Bush does not give him the right to claim that Bush also represents those Americans who did not vote for him, and today are still against him, or had voted for him and later have changed their minds against him, which all in all apearrantly are even more than just 49% today (if the polls have even a minimum of meaning). Insisting on such a claim means effectivly denying those who voted against him to have a different opinion. And that is not democratic understanding, but totalitarian. Accepting the possebility of an oppostion in opinions is a basic ingredient of democracy, wether it be a republic, or not. Deny that right, and you have killed any democracy there was. -

But all that is academical only. As a matter of fact a majority of Germans still feel sympathy for America, some have american friends, and most germans do not hate american Joe Smith and Lisa Brown, while also a clear majority do not like Bush and do not welcome him. If you think that equals a description of Germans hating Americans or being against America in principal, then you will have to live with that queer opinion, because we Germans probably will not change our minds. -

August,
your no-sense reference to Poland was dumb and definitely not needed - and you know that.

The same pattern that has been displayed again and again and again over the last years. Do those guys that are unhappy with something in Germany never get tired of always wanting to push back the time and come up with the Third Reich as an "argument" again? If you would be familiar with politics over here, then you would have noticed that currently Poland and it's dubious twins are throwing a lot of hostile and quite nationalistic rethorics towards Germany - not the other way around.

We also have an antipathy against Führer-figures today that is beyond description and prevents us from forming strong governments. Our constitution even is designed to prevent such strong leading figures in politics on federal level. Now compare that to the fetish you make of Bush, or the powerful structure of the presidential job itself, and rejecting half of your people to be of different opinion than you are, as indicated in the posts above! And then you want to point fingers at us for planning to attack Poland again for nationalistic reasons...??? Absurd! We don't like Bush, and we do not respect the man. that is nothing about your constitutional order and cour country and your people. If you don't understand that, then okay, then do not understand it. We don't mind and we don't care.

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It's about a single man - not about a nation, nor a people. Take him back as soon as you can, most of us do not want him. That's all.

bradclark1 · 07-12-06, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Incorrect - He represents the US of A, and if you hate him, you hate us. Period.
-S

Bull. I intensley dislike this president, period. Don't even say I hate my country.

07-12-06, 10:43 AM	#1
Dan D Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 9th Flotilla Posts: 839 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	"Wild Boar Barbecue for Mr. & Mrs. Bush" Alaaarm, Bush, President of "Amur-cah" is coming for a visit to Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania. Georgie is visiting Angie. Here is a fine article from DW-World.de Deutsche Welle: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,...081444,00.html

07-12-06, 01:23 PM	#2
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	I hear there's a rumour knocking about that George has fallen off the waggon back on the alcohol. Is this true? :hmm: __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

07-12-06, 03:20 PM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	He is definitely not welcomed by the clear majority of Germans. He better gets over with whatever kind of business he and Angiebabe think he has to do, and then leave us quickly again, the sooner the better (maybe take Angiebabe with him, that would be a fair compensation...). The ruling governmental parties (!) of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern are boycotting him, btw. Note that it is the man being the target of the antipathy in Germany, not the country and the people of the US. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-12-06, 04:51 PM	#9
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Quatsch. Don't try to be absurd, both of you. Heads don't pass through walls. You guys did not like Schroeder. No German I knew concluded by that that you or the ordinary american man "hate" us Germans - although officially Schroeder represented Germany. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 07-12-06 at 04:55 PM.

07-12-06, 06:16 PM	#14
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	the old debate we had so often - is a result of 51:49 a valid argument to say that 51% effectivly must be read as 100%, or is it closer to say it is half:half. We know where it will lead to - nowhere. Let's better fight about who has the better HOTAS, you American guy that I hate so much! That someone likes Bush does not give him the right to claim that Bush also represents those Americans who did not vote for him, and today are still against him, or had voted for him and later have changed their minds against him, which all in all apearrantly are even more than just 49% today (if the polls have even a minimum of meaning). Insisting on such a claim means effectivly denying those who voted against him to have a different opinion. And that is not democratic understanding, but totalitarian. Accepting the possebility of an oppostion in opinions is a basic ingredient of democracy, wether it be a republic, or not. Deny that right, and you have killed any democracy there was. - But all that is academical only. As a matter of fact a majority of Germans still feel sympathy for America, some have american friends, and most germans do not hate american Joe Smith and Lisa Brown, while also a clear majority do not like Bush and do not welcome him. If you think that equals a description of Germans hating Americans or being against America in principal, then you will have to live with that queer opinion, because we Germans probably will not change our minds. - August, your no-sense reference to Poland was dumb and definitely not needed - and you know that. The same pattern that has been displayed again and again and again over the last years. Do those guys that are unhappy with something in Germany never get tired of always wanting to push back the time and come up with the Third Reich as an "argument" again? If you would be familiar with politics over here, then you would have noticed that currently Poland and it's dubious twins are throwing a lot of hostile and quite nationalistic rethorics towards Germany - not the other way around. We also have an antipathy against Führer-figures today that is beyond description and prevents us from forming strong governments. Our constitution even is designed to prevent such strong leading figures in politics on federal level. Now compare that to the fetish you make of Bush, or the powerful structure of the presidential job itself, and rejecting half of your people to be of different opinion than you are, as indicated in the posts above! And then you want to point fingers at us for planning to attack Poland again for nationalistic reasons...??? Absurd! We don't like Bush, and we do not respect the man. that is nothing about your constitutional order and cour country and your people. If you don't understand that, then okay, then do not understand it. We don't mind and we don't care. - It's about a single man - not about a nation, nor a people. Take him back as soon as you can, most of us do not want him. That's all. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-12-06, 06:02 PM	#13
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Mans a divider, not a uniter. Since you want to cite majority, last polls i saw show the majority now dispprove of the man. Spout red white and blue flag waving rhetoric all you want to, but the fact remains the nation is divided poltically over this man. For proof of that, all one has to do is realize that Bush himself, is a touchy subject, even amongst your own countryman. So to say to someone of another nation to hate bush is to hate the US, is absurd. Going by that rehtoric, then a large percentage of Americans hate their own country, and that just isnt true.