submarine buoyancy simulator

greyrider · 06-26-06, 07:07 PM

just browsing the internet today, and i came across this site.
awhile back there was a thread about "hovering".
this little sim demonstrates the trim and drain systems of a submarine,
and was made by a subsim member, or wpl member, XabbaRus.
test your hovering abilities by draining and triming the ballast and trim tanks .
i got the sub straight and level at 90 feet.
it would have stayed there forever once it was trimmed.
http://sub-log.com/buoyancy

Sulikate · 06-26-06, 08:07 PM

cool little game

Rosencrantz · 06-27-06, 03:16 AM

Maybe we got something like this in SHXXI.

-RC-

Safe-Keeper · 06-27-06, 09:47 AM

I found the instructions sorely lacking. But yes, nice little game.

coronas · 06-27-06, 12:12 PM

Cool!Is there a version for download?

Rosencrantz · 06-27-06, 06:02 PM

in this little sim. Just try and in the beginning, before taking any water in, just pump both bow and stern trim tanks to the main ballast tank and take a look what gonna happen... At least not what you would think... :rotfl:

-RC-

Safe-Keeper · 06-27-06, 06:09 PM

Blow everything. Ballast and trim tanks.

Yay! Flying sub:rotfl:!

Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense · 06-27-06, 06:30 PM

yup... looks like they forgot to factor in a thing... or two

still... it's kinda nice... did Xabbarus do this?

--Mike

Myxale · 06-28-06, 11:11 AM

This was fun, and it really showed me how much work my LI has in our sub. I will never ever underestimate him! lol

greyrider · 06-28-06, 12:28 PM

xabbusrus did do something with it , i read that at the bottom of the page,
but

i think the authors of this little game just wanted to demonstrate the similarities of
a submarine and a lever, without being to ellaborate, the three states a submarine could have in water.

positive buoyancy, negative buoyancy, and neutral buoyancy.

this could be cool in a new version of silent hunter, but i wonder when doing a lot of things manually would begin to overload
and overwhelm the players.

so far tho, my feeling is the more the better!

Rubini · 06-28-06, 02:35 PM

In SH3 we rarelly use the Blow Ballast command because the Uboat damage and repairs times are very bad implemented (remember that instant depth screen after some depth charges, ****...this really kill the game..).

But now we have the Longer Repair Time mod which bring a new life for SH3. I never was used the Blow Ballast command so frequently as now! And using the Bballast command is now necessary to trim and control the Uboat buoyancy, because you now frequently have heavy flooding and also the time to recovery. It's really a new game now, starting where the stock ones ends shamefully!

Cheers,

Rubini.

Rosencrantz · 06-28-06, 03:53 PM

Hello all!

My intention is not going OT, but: First time ever I hit to the "interrupted crash dive problem" and actually I found it very enjoyable. To make long story short: My boat was in the Baltic, autumn '39. I ordered CD after the watch spotted the unkown ship. And then it started. I was unable to carry on approach or anything. After the ship passed and dissapeared, we surfaced and run with diesels just enough to charge the batteries. Then I dived again to check "what is the matter". Finally I allowed the boat to go down to bottom, 137 meters. Got some minor damage but managed to surface again after repairs (NYGM 2.0). Finally I informed BdU "we were coming back, becaus the boat was unable to keep its balance, reason unknown..." :rotfl:

OK. This made me wonder:

I found this problem, as I said, to be OK. Very interesting actually. Some real problems with the boat, suddenly. Then... There is this mini game (USS Holland)... Up to this moment I have allways feeled negative towards frequently asked possibility to really trim your boat in the sim. But now I'm thinking that might be both interesting and not that hard to build in. You know... Maybe changes in water salinity and temperature could be modelled also, like the weather is, so your trim could be different today than it was yesterday. Dunno if this a good idea, and I'm not maybe thinking somekind of mod for the SHIII but maybe Devs work with IV.

And have to say, I like this humming bird - mod. Very much. Thank you modders!

Sorry the long post.

-RC-

06-26-06, 07:07 PM	#1
greyrider Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: massachusetts Posts: 334 Downloads: 237 Uploads: 0	submarine buoyancy simulator just browsing the internet today, and i came across this site. awhile back there was a thread about "hovering". this little sim demonstrates the trim and drain systems of a submarine, and was made by a subsim member, or wpl member, XabbaRus. test your hovering abilities by draining and triming the ballast and trim tanks . i got the sub straight and level at 90 feet. it would have stayed there forever once it was trimmed. http://sub-log.com/buoyancy __________________ Her gun crew had guts, however, for from her canting bow came a half dozen well-aimed rounds. How they pointed and trained their gun on that tilting platform will long remain a wonder, and their dedication in keeping up the fire until they went under would be a matter of pride to any nation. O'Kane, Richard. Clear the Bridge!: The War Patrols of the U.S.S. Tang

06-26-06, 08:07 PM	#2
Sulikate Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Korea Posts: 834 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	cool little game __________________ Se flutua e não fala quack, afunde-o!

06-27-06, 09:47 AM	#4
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I found the instructions sorely lacking. But yes, nice little game. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

06-27-06, 06:02 PM	#6
Rosencrantz Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 758 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	There is something wrong... in this little sim. Just try and in the beginning, before taking any water in, just pump both bow and stern trim tanks to the main ballast tank and take a look what gonna happen... At least not what you would think... :rotfl: -RC-

06-27-06, 06:09 PM	#7
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Blow everything. Ballast and trim tanks. Yay! Flying sub:rotfl:! __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

06-27-06, 03:16 AM	#3
Rosencrantz Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 758 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Maybe we got something like this in SHXXI. -RC-

06-27-06, 12:12 PM	#5
coronas Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Asturias, España Posts: 1,168 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Cool!Is there a version for download?

06-27-06, 06:30 PM	#8
Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense Commander Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 445 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	yup... looks like they forgot to factor in a thing... or two still... it's kinda nice... did Xabbarus do this? --Mike

06-28-06, 11:11 AM	#9
Myxale Admiral Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PQ AN 25 Posts: 2,178 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	This was fun, and it really showed me how much work my LI has in our sub. I will never ever underestimate him! lol

06-28-06, 12:28 PM	#10
greyrider Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: massachusetts Posts: 334 Downloads: 237 Uploads: 0	xabbusrus did do something with it , i read that at the bottom of the page, but i think the authors of this little game just wanted to demonstrate the similarities of a submarine and a lever, without being to ellaborate, the three states a submarine could have in water. positive buoyancy, negative buoyancy, and neutral buoyancy. this could be cool in a new version of silent hunter, but i wonder when doing a lot of things manually would begin to overload and overwhelm the players. so far tho, my feeling is the more the better! __________________ Her gun crew had guts, however, for from her canting bow came a half dozen well-aimed rounds. How they pointed and trained their gun on that tilting platform will long remain a wonder, and their dedication in keeping up the fire until they went under would be a matter of pride to any nation. O'Kane, Richard. Clear the Bridge!: The War Patrols of the U.S.S. Tang

06-28-06, 02:35 PM	#11
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	In SH3 we rarelly use the Blow Ballast command because the Uboat damage and repairs times are very bad implemented (remember that instant depth screen after some depth charges, ****...this really kill the game..). But now we have the Longer Repair Time mod which bring a new life for SH3. I never was used the Blow Ballast command so frequently as now! And using the Bballast command is now necessary to trim and control the Uboat buoyancy, because you now frequently have heavy flooding and also the time to recovery. It's really a new game now, starting where the stock ones ends shamefully! Cheers, Rubini.

06-28-06, 03:53 PM	#12
Rosencrantz Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 758 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Hello all! My intention is not going OT, but: First time ever I hit to the "interrupted crash dive problem" and actually I found it very enjoyable. To make long story short: My boat was in the Baltic, autumn '39. I ordered CD after the watch spotted the unkown ship. And then it started. I was unable to carry on approach or anything. After the ship passed and dissapeared, we surfaced and run with diesels just enough to charge the batteries. Then I dived again to check "what is the matter". Finally I allowed the boat to go down to bottom, 137 meters. Got some minor damage but managed to surface again after repairs (NYGM 2.0). Finally I informed BdU "we were coming back, becaus the boat was unable to keep its balance, reason unknown..." :rotfl: OK. This made me wonder: I found this problem, as I said, to be OK. Very interesting actually. Some real problems with the boat, suddenly. Then... There is this mini game (USS Holland)... Up to this moment I have allways feeled negative towards frequently asked possibility to really trim your boat in the sim. But now I'm thinking that might be both interesting and not that hard to build in. You know... Maybe changes in water salinity and temperature could be modelled also, like the weather is, so your trim could be different today than it was yesterday. Dunno if this a good idea, and I'm not maybe thinking somekind of mod for the SHIII but maybe Devs work with IV. And have to say, I like this humming bird - mod. Very much. Thank you modders! Sorry the long post. -RC-