What happens if you fire a man out of a torpedo tube?

I was thinking of this as a way to deploy special forces without surfacing. Why not eject them out of the tubes (with special equipment, of course). Might it be nobody has ever thought of this? :hmm:

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Originally Posted by Kurushio

Might it be nobody has ever thought of this? :hmm:

Ever seen "The Man With the Golden Gun"? or "The World is not Enough" or "Never Say Never Again"?



The crew of the USS Holland SS1 once tried to shoot the ship's dog mascot out the torpedo tube to test it as a escape system. The put the dog in the tube, flooded it up and fired. The crew topside saw no trace of the dog. They drained the tube and found the dog totally dry- he found a spot in the tube to hide in.

[MaHuJa]

Norwegian subs have used torpedo tubes as "marinejeger" (think SEAL) "deployment chamber" for a long time.

Or at least, that's how I've been hearing it.

I believe that were you to actually impulse fire them, though, you'd have a lot of broken bones to deal with. The idea is that they swim out themselves.

Poor dog. Though no...I don't recall ever seeing a film where I saw that happen. I've seen most of the Bond movies...but not the ones after Moore (the ultimate James Bond INMHO).

Here's another idea of mine...how about they invent an anti-torpedo...torpedo?! A torpedo which, when launched, homes onto another torpedo with the sole purpose of destroying it. Wow, I'm just full of stupid ideas tonight! Hey...we can make this the bizzare naval ideas thread!

[Enigma]

The crew of the USS Holland SS1 once tried to shoot the ship's dog mascot out the torpedo tube

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Originally Posted by Kurushio

Here's another idea of mine...how about they invent an anti-torpedo...torpedo?! A torpedo which, when launched, homes onto another torpedo with the sole purpose of destroying it. Wow, I'm just full of stupid ideas tonight! Hey...we can make this the bizzare naval ideas thread!

Some people who have worked with them say the MK46 has that capability.

The NU90 might have it too. Anti-Torpedo weapons are being worked on by several navies.

BTW if anyone is instrested that story about the dog came from 'A Century of Silent Service' from SCS
http://battlefront.com/products/css_dvd/index.html
Its a good DVD.

[LoBlo]

I think most SF use the subs escape hatches for deploying. Some the the newest USN subs have special SF chambers (Trident SSGN and VA).

[LoBlo]

Originally Posted by Kurushio

Here's another idea of mine...how about they invent an anti-torpedo...torpedo?! A torpedo which, when launched, homes onto another torpedo with the sole purpose of destroying it. Wow, I'm just full of stupid ideas tonight! Hey...we can make this the bizzare naval ideas thread!

Nothing bizzare about that idea at all. Its actually in the works, with the main obstacle an accurate enough guidance system to get close enough for a successful kill... hard to achieve. There's a nice article about it somewhere on the net, but I've lost the link. It was either on the main Subsim.com page or maybe SeaPower Magazines site somewhere I forget.

[Henson]

Originally Posted by Kurushio

Here's another idea of mine...how about they invent an anti-torpedo...torpedo?! A torpedo which, when launched, homes onto another torpedo with the sole purpose of destroying it. Wow, I'm just full of stupid ideas tonight! Hey...we can make this the bizzare naval ideas thread!

NUWC has a lot of crazy mofo's who sit around and think about stuff like this all day...and that is why we have the ADCAP. It will happen.

[SeaQueen]

Originally Posted by Kurushio

Here's another idea of mine...how about they invent an anti-torpedo...torpedo?! A torpedo which, when launched, homes onto another torpedo with the sole purpose of destroying it.

http://www.military.com/forums/0,15240,98288,00.html

http://www.afcea.org/signal/articles...asp?a=577&z=85

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Originally Posted by LoBlo

...with the main obstacle an accurate enough guidance system to get close enough for a successful kill... hard to achieve.

Ivan took a more practical approach: throw a whole F*cking lot of ordnance at the torpedo. Maybe that’s why they've had an anti-torpedo system on their warships since 1957.

(I of course am talking about the Russian RBU systems)

[LuftWolf]

Solid Snake was shot out of a torpedo tube to open the game in the original Metal Gear Solid.

He was in a torpedo-like single person underwater infiltration craft.

[FERdeBOER]

Originally Posted by Kurushio

I was thinking of this as a way to deploy special forces without surfacing. Why not eject them out of the tubes (with special equipment, of course). Might it be nobody has ever thought of this? :hmm:

I think is possible if you use less power (maybe less compressed air) on the launch.

Originally Posted by Kurushio

Here's another idea of mine...how about they invent an anti-torpedo...torpedo?! A torpedo which, when launched, homes onto another torpedo with the sole purpose of destroying it. Wow, I'm just full of stupid ideas tonight! Hey...we can make this the bizzare naval ideas thread!

Stupid idea for the war? You will surprise about the things the military engineers and scientists thinks.
I've seen a chapter of the serie "Soldiers", presented by Frederic Forsyth about engineers... and the ideas developed during the WWII for crossing rivers and for destroying mines are... :rotfl: but some were effective.
For example, USSR scientits thought on launch millions of dark papers (well, no paper, but similar) on the North Pole to cover the surface. That would make the ice to retain more hot, and it will begin to melt. If the North Pole melts, the sea level will increase... and USA has more coast, more important cities (almost all important city), and more population on that cities than the USSR...

You want more? Training "intuitive" people to find and even kill people from miles of distance with their mental power (don't laught, even to try to find Osama).

So, your ideas are more than serious

Damn...and I was just about to patent that idea about the anti-torp torpedo. Just shows there aren't many original ideas left...

FerdeBoer...yeah I've read the Soviets had all these strange ideas. Must be all the vodka. Though that thing about melting the arctic ice is similar to Agent Orange the US used in Vietnam. I know the Russian army uses dogs to carry ammo even today...in London they opened a new memorial (massive thing) dedicated to animals who "fought" in wars. Ridiculous thing. It says in big writing "THEY HAD NO CHOICE...." Stupid also because they still don't have any choice...:rotfl:

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Originally Posted by FERdeBOER

For example, USSR scientits thought on launch millions of dark papers (well, no paper, but similar) on the North Pole to cover the surface. That would make the ice to retain more hot, and it will begin to melt. If the North Pole melts, the sea level will increase... and USA has more coast, more important cities (almost all important city), and more population on that cities than the USSR...

I think Agent James Bond 007 of Her Majesty’s Secret Service defeated that plot... :hmm:



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