How to escape the Über-AI (NYGM2.0)

Fangschuss · 06-08-06, 07:19 AM

Salve

Need some help

Ok the DD´s are real booldhounds, and this brings the game to an higher level

And make the escotrs to an real enemy. But..

...after 3hours on silent runing,1 knots at 180meters.
Iam not able to escape the NYGM Uber-AI. I become mad

I need some hint´s buddys

The Noob · 06-08-06, 07:50 AM

Real Depth Chargings often lastet longer in reality. Just Continue to try to evade.

CCIP · 06-08-06, 08:32 AM

3 hours? Keep trying, you may have to keep at it for longer.

What are they getting you with? ASDIC?
If it's ASDIC, then keep trying to always face directly towards or away from them, exposing minimum area to it.

Ula Jolly · 06-08-06, 09:00 AM

BREAK THE SURFACE! Deck gun their ugly faceholes!

don1reed · 06-08-06, 09:42 AM

After 12 attacks by DD and 2 attacks by aircraft, just off the Firth of Forth, we in our lil canoe was running out of electricity...D121m, silent running...

...finally, the DD depleted it's wasserbombe but kept on making pass after pass, mostly from our stern...just letting us know, he knew where we were. EDIT: His method was "passive". He did not use ASDIC.

We ascended to 20m, got our vorhaltrectner all set and waited for him to pass on us again. He did. As soon as he passed overhead, we ascended to ASR depth and broached the scope and turned in the same direction he did. We were set up for a 3 shot fan 2.5° spread, Vg 10, Az/Pi, E 700, Lage 90. Scored three hits! Nr.1 Dud, Nr.2 MOT, Nr.3 Abaft stern stack on C Class. Sank in 3 min. after fwd magazine went.

Cpt.Thorne · 06-08-06, 10:01 AM

#hrs is still considerably good time have enjoyed the fun for 5hrs with NYGM1.03 but this 2.0 is even better...I love it!

Wabos I take but if they have hedgehogs I am sweating...even though I am happy to have learned they are not totally über in NYGM2 anymore. And actually trust me you can take good punishment without cheesy vanilla death screen after little flooding. I was able to surface from 150m and save my crew and surrender with completely flooded electric engine compartment that was sealed when realised there as no chance to pump it dry. Run silent run deep...have patience..and pray!

Myxale · 06-08-06, 10:12 AM

Same here from me mate!
Keep goin' on! Go longer, do deeper, go more silent! Use the chaos and loudness of the DC's to to flank ahead and change course or generally just to win some space, and then again silent at 1knot as soon as the bombs stop!
This is intended to break your sub and kill you. If not, then the Tommy's want to torture you!

Fangschuss · 06-08-06, 10:44 AM

THX Buddys

I will give my best

Myxale · 06-08-06, 01:13 PM

Let us know if you made it!:hmm:

Fangschuss · 06-08-06, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myxale

Let us know if you made it!:hmm:

Ok after scarcely 5 hours i escaped mean hunters

After my first convoy attacked (NYGM), sank a freighter and a light tanker ca. Brt. 13.000t

NYGM Rockz

..Course westward, against England... Ahoi Kaleu´s

Myxale · 06-08-06, 02:50 PM

Salvadoreno · 06-08-06, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fangschuss

Ok after scarcely 5 hours i escaped mean hunters

After my first convoy attacked (NYGM), sank a freighter and a light tanker ca. Brt. 13.000t

NYGM Rockz

..Course westward, against England... Ahoi Kaleu´s

Hey Fang, damn ya i probably need some pointers from you!!! I have already lost 2 boats both in maiden patrols. My 3rd patrol in a VIIC in 1941 started off well, medium tanker alone and a transport in convoy sank, finally escaped the AI DDs after about hour and a half of depth charges, and game crashed. Lost all Walter Angrus saved games >

. So now im on my 4th patrol with an IXC in 1941 trying to survive. Ive never used IXC and im wanting to survive long enough to get to america. So far it ain t happening.

CCIP · 06-08-06, 05:02 PM

See, I knew you could make it!

I think there is a shock that everyone who starts NYGM 2.0 will experience from the escorts suddenly getting a lot of teeth, but after some practice you'll learn what you need to escape them.

And the first thing is patience!

Paul Rix · 06-10-06, 10:56 PM

Hi all, new player here. I have upgraded to NYGM v2 and also am having a very hard time escaping the escorts. I have tried running directly away, sitting on the bottom, Silent Running (which does not help when you are being pinged). Are themal layers modelled ? I don't play the game 5 hours at a time so playing a 5 hour + evasion is not an option for me. I am seriously considering going back to 1.03.

Der Teddy Bar · 06-10-06, 11:45 PM

Paul,
Silent running in itself is no longer the Clingon Cloaking Device that it used to be. It now requires you to be more historical and adjust your speed down to about 1+ knots.

I tried the WaW Evasive mission. Picture this, 3 escorts within 300 metres of your u-boat and you on the surface and in only 80 metres depth! uhm, someone could have turned the escorts to at least be facing the other way

I have done this mission 3 times and survived 2. In the 2 times I survived 1 time I was extensively damaged before submerging and the other time not.

I had to change my way of thinking from that of trying to immediately hide under the nearest stone to running and evading and then choosing my time to try and hide.

This enabled me to get past the initial attacks and get the escorts spread out a little.

It was by no means easy, and took time and luck.

Most of the time I also only did minimal speed adjustments when depth charged from <1 to about 2+ for less than 20 seconds and often about 10 seconds. Occassionally, in the intial stages I did do some ahead slow and a depth change.

When I was getting pinged in such a way as to believe I was going to get depth charged I made a small course changes and after the attack another, maybe the same way or back to the original course.

I also constantly tried to minimise my surface exposure to the esort I thought might detect me best. Not always practical, and again, pinging does not always mean detection.

Other times when the escort was crossing over me from a 90 degree angle or something simular to that, I would keep the same direction but go to 2 knots and change depth.

I did at times get additional damage and one time had to do emergency repairs and died :rotfl: The other times I got additional damage that I once could live with and once needed some repairs done, but I manged to again get away.

I hope that this helps some.

06-08-06, 07:19 AM	#1
Fangschuss Sparky Join Date: May 2005 Location: Franken Posts: 156 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	How to escape the Über-AI (NYGM2.0) Salve Need some help Ok the DD´s are real booldhounds, and this brings the game to an higher level And make the escotrs to an real enemy. But.. ...after 3hours on silent runing,1 knots at 180meters. Iam not able to escape the NYGM Uber-AI. I become mad I need some hint´s buddys __________________ www.forces-of-war.biz

06-08-06, 08:32 AM	#3
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	3 hours? Keep trying, you may have to keep at it for longer. What are they getting you with? ASDIC? If it's ASDIC, then keep trying to always face directly towards or away from them, exposing minimum area to it. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

06-08-06, 09:00 AM	#4
Ula Jolly Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 567 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	BREAK THE SURFACE! Deck gun their ugly faceholes! __________________ I shall punish yee, landlubber! C'mere for spankings and popsicles!

06-08-06, 09:42 AM	#5
don1reed Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Valhalla: Silent Generation Posts: 1,149 Downloads: 910 Uploads: 0	After 12 attacks by DD and 2 attacks by aircraft, just off the Firth of Forth, we in our lil canoe was running out of electricity...D121m, silent running... ...finally, the DD depleted it's wasserbombe but kept on making pass after pass, mostly from our stern...just letting us know, he knew where we were. EDIT: His method was "passive". He did not use ASDIC. We ascended to 20m, got our vorhaltrectner all set and waited for him to pass on us again. He did. As soon as he passed overhead, we ascended to ASR depth and broached the scope and turned in the same direction he did. We were set up for a 3 shot fan 2.5° spread, Vg 10, Az/Pi, E 700, Lage 90. Scored three hits! Nr.1 Dud, Nr.2 MOT, Nr.3 Abaft stern stack on C Class. Sank in 3 min. after fwd magazine went. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell Last edited by don1reed; 06-08-06 at 09:56 AM.

06-08-06, 10:01 AM	#6
Cpt.Thorne Torpedoman Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 116 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	#hrs is still considerably good time have enjoyed the fun for 5hrs with NYGM1.03 but this 2.0 is even better...I love it! Wabos I take but if they have hedgehogs I am sweating...even though I am happy to have learned they are not totally über in NYGM2 anymore. And actually trust me you can take good punishment without cheesy vanilla death screen after little flooding. I was able to surface from 150m and save my crew and surrender with completely flooded electric engine compartment that was sealed when realised there as no chance to pump it dry. Run silent run deep...have patience..and pray! __________________

06-08-06, 07:50 AM	#2
The Noob The Old Man Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: de_dust2 Posts: 1,417 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Real Depth Chargings often lastet longer in reality. Just Continue to try to evade.

06-08-06, 10:12 AM	#7
Myxale Admiral Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PQ AN 25 Posts: 2,178 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	Same here from me mate! Keep goin' on! Go longer, do deeper, go more silent! Use the chaos and loudness of the DC's to to flank ahead and change course or generally just to win some space, and then again silent at 1knot as soon as the bombs stop! This is intended to break your sub and kill you. If not, then the Tommy's want to torture you!

06-08-06, 10:44 AM	#8
Fangschuss Sparky Join Date: May 2005 Location: Franken Posts: 156 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	THX Buddys I will give my best __________________ www.forces-of-war.biz

06-08-06, 01:13 PM	#9
Myxale Admiral Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PQ AN 25 Posts: 2,178 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	Let us know if you made it!:hmm:

06-08-06, 02:50 PM	#11
Myxale Admiral Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PQ AN 25 Posts: 2,178 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0

06-08-06, 05:02 PM	#13
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	See, I knew you could make it! I think there is a shock that everyone who starts NYGM 2.0 will experience from the escorts suddenly getting a lot of teeth, but after some practice you'll learn what you need to escape them. And the first thing is patience! __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

06-10-06, 10:56 PM	#14
Paul Rix Nub Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hi all, new player here. I have upgraded to NYGM v2 and also am having a very hard time escaping the escorts. I have tried running directly away, sitting on the bottom, Silent Running (which does not help when you are being pinged). Are themal layers modelled ? I don't play the game 5 hours at a time so playing a 5 hour + evasion is not an option for me. I am seriously considering going back to 1.03.

06-10-06, 11:45 PM	#15
Der Teddy Bar Blade Master Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,388 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Paul, Silent running in itself is no longer the Clingon Cloaking Device that it used to be. It now requires you to be more historical and adjust your speed down to about 1+ knots. I tried the WaW Evasive mission. Picture this, 3 escorts within 300 metres of your u-boat and you on the surface and in only 80 metres depth! uhm, someone could have turned the escorts to at least be facing the other way I have done this mission 3 times and survived 2. In the 2 times I survived 1 time I was extensively damaged before submerging and the other time not. I had to change my way of thinking from that of trying to immediately hide under the nearest stone to running and evading and then choosing my time to try and hide. This enabled me to get past the initial attacks and get the escorts spread out a little. It was by no means easy, and took time and luck. Most of the time I also only did minimal speed adjustments when depth charged from <1 to about 2+ for less than 20 seconds and often about 10 seconds. Occassionally, in the intial stages I did do some ahead slow and a depth change. When I was getting pinged in such a way as to believe I was going to get depth charged I made a small course changes and after the attack another, maybe the same way or back to the original course. I also constantly tried to minimise my surface exposure to the esort I thought might detect me best. Not always practical, and again, pinging does not always mean detection. Other times when the escort was crossing over me from a 90 degree angle or something simular to that, I would keep the same direction but go to 2 knots and change depth. I did at times get additional damage and one time had to do emergency repairs and died :rotfl: The other times I got additional damage that I once could live with and once needed some repairs done, but I manged to again get away. I hope that this helps some.