Attack..Shadow..Reload..Repeat!

Salvadoreno · 06-01-06, 01:41 PM

This all depends on how you play. But usually when i find a convoy i try hard to hang on to it after the initial attack. It seems more realistic and i "pretend" that either sometimes i get a radio message to break off attack or get a message to continue to shadow and attack. BUT i noticed lately that destroyers tend to be on the alert after there convoy is attacked onced. I literally shadowed a sierra leone convoy for hours upon hours and tried to work back in to attack, but to no avail. I went miles away from the convoy and waited a day or two and returned. But i was spotted again from like 5500-6000m. Then came the charges for about 1-2 hours everytime. I was never able to work myself back into the convoy. They did a massive course change and speed change and i gave up after only 2 ships sunk.

Do destroyers really get "more" difficult after an initial attack? How long do they stay that way?? Or am i just going nutz? I coulda sworn i was being sneaky but they still spotted me.

The weather was clear, no wind, calm seas. But most of the time my bow was pointed at the destoyer.. eh?

Observer · 06-01-06, 04:27 PM

Escorts have two states: normal and alert. When the escorts are alert, they have better spotting ranges.

Heibges · 06-01-06, 09:14 PM

I once followed a convoy for 2 days waiting for the weather to break.

Der Teddy Bar · 06-01-06, 10:30 PM

As Observer said they do have 2 states of normal and high alert.

When on high alert the spoting ranges are greatly enhanced as they are now actively looking for you.

I have no idea on how long the high alert state will last for.

I have had it confirmed that this high alert state also is in the sonar and hydrophones.

This high alert state with the increased visual distance in the NYGM TW 2.0 will mean staying undetected will be of the utmost importance. Especially when you are in shallow waters as now the ADSIC is very capable and going off all the time.

The_Blockade_Runner · 06-02-06, 04:43 AM

Ive learned some hard lessons from these destroyers on high alert.

In my first career I attacked Scapa Flow and sank 3 dd's. Feeling like I was Hot Stuff I attaced scapa again on my next patrol. With the port empty I fired a shot at a stationary dd, which the torp passes directly under his hall, He began a search pattern for me and he got too close so I had to order all stop. The bastard then pinged me and rammed me at high speed, killing me, amd that career.

Keelbuster · 06-02-06, 09:24 AM

In the flanking maneuver i always hover around 10km from the outside escort. If he comes looking for me I just lead him out to 13 or 14 and he gives up. I converge on the convoy's course when I'm about 10km ahead of the convoy. This gives me plenty of time to get under and go silent before they spot me. As you say, course changes can throw you for a loop. Usually a sound check will get you back on course again.

Kb

06-01-06, 01:41 PM	#1
Salvadoreno Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 887 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Attack..Shadow..Reload..Repeat! This all depends on how you play. But usually when i find a convoy i try hard to hang on to it after the initial attack. It seems more realistic and i "pretend" that either sometimes i get a radio message to break off attack or get a message to continue to shadow and attack. BUT i noticed lately that destroyers tend to be on the alert after there convoy is attacked onced. I literally shadowed a sierra leone convoy for hours upon hours and tried to work back in to attack, but to no avail. I went miles away from the convoy and waited a day or two and returned. But i was spotted again from like 5500-6000m. Then came the charges for about 1-2 hours everytime. I was never able to work myself back into the convoy. They did a massive course change and speed change and i gave up after only 2 ships sunk. Do destroyers really get "more" difficult after an initial attack? How long do they stay that way?? Or am i just going nutz? I coulda sworn i was being sneaky but they still spotted me. The weather was clear, no wind, calm seas. But most of the time my bow was pointed at the destoyer.. eh? __________________

06-01-06, 09:14 PM	#3
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I once followed a convoy for 2 days waiting for the weather to break. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

06-02-06, 04:43 AM	#5
The_Blockade_Runner Sparky Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 156 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ive learned some hard lessons from these destroyers on high alert. In my first career I attacked Scapa Flow and sank 3 dd's. Feeling like I was Hot Stuff I attaced scapa again on my next patrol. With the port empty I fired a shot at a stationary dd, which the torp passes directly under his hall, He began a search pattern for me and he got too close so I had to order all stop. The bastard then pinged me and rammed me at high speed, killing me, amd that career. __________________ U boat warfare, Product of German Engineering. German Engineering in da house

06-02-06, 09:24 AM	#6
Keelbuster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BA 72 Posts: 1,092 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	In the flanking maneuver i always hover around 10km from the outside escort. If he comes looking for me I just lead him out to 13 or 14 and he gives up. I converge on the convoy's course when I'm about 10km ahead of the convoy. This gives me plenty of time to get under and go silent before they spot me. As you say, course changes can throw you for a loop. Usually a sound check will get you back on course again. Kb __________________

06-01-06, 04:27 PM	#2
Observer Commander Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 477 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Escorts have two states: normal and alert. When the escorts are alert, they have better spotting ranges.

06-01-06, 10:30 PM	#4
Der Teddy Bar Blade Master Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,388 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	As Observer said they do have 2 states of normal and high alert. When on high alert the spoting ranges are greatly enhanced as they are now actively looking for you. I have no idea on how long the high alert state will last for. I have had it confirmed that this high alert state also is in the sonar and hydrophones. This high alert state with the increased visual distance in the NYGM TW 2.0 will mean staying undetected will be of the utmost importance. Especially when you are in shallow waters as now the ADSIC is very capable and going off all the time.