EU Socialist Dictatorship

[STEED]

A dodgy email I got :hmm:

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Former Soviet Dissident Warns Of EU Socialist Dictatorship
Saw documents detailing Rockefeller/Trilateral conspiracy to create totalitarian federal superstate

March 2 2006

A former dissident who was imprisoned in Soviet gulags for a total of twelve years has warned that he personally saw secret documents in 1992 which outlined a conspiracy to turn the European Union into a Socialist dictatorship.

In a speech in Brussels, 63-year old Vladimir Bukovksy described the content of still classified Politburo and Central Committee documents. The Soviet files outlined a plan from the mid-1980's onwards to hijack the European Union and turn it into what Bukovksy calls the EUSSR, a totalitarian federal superstate with no accountability or direct representation. The policy was "a conspiracy, quite openly made by them, agreed upon, and worked out."

Bukovksy describes an amazing meeting between President Gorbachev and representatives of the Trilateral Commission, which included David Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger.

"In January of 1989, for example, a delegation of the Trilateral Commission came to see Gorbachev. It included [former Japanese Prime Minister Yasuhiro] Nakasone, [former French President Valéry] Giscard d’Estaing, [American banker David] Rockefeller and [former US Secretary of State Henry] Kissinger. They had a very nice conversation where they tried to explain to Gorbachev that Soviet Russia had to integrate into the financial institutions of the world, such as Gatt, the IMF and the World Bank."

"In the middle of it Giscard d’Estaing suddenly takes the floor and says: “Mr President, I cannot tell you exactly when it will happen – probably within 15 years – but Europe is going to be a federal state and you have to prepare yourself for that. You have to work out with us, and the European leaders, how you would react to that, how would you allow the other Easteuropean countries to interact with it or how to become a part of it, you have to be prepared.�

"This was January 1989, at a time when the [1992] Maastricht treaty had not even been drafted. How the hell did Giscard d’Estaing (pictured below) know what was going to happen in 15 years time? And surprise, surprise, how did he become the author of the European constitution [in 2002-03]? A very good question. It does smell of conspiracy, doesn’t it?"



Here we have the luminaries of the global elite ordering Gorbachev to fold Communism and get on board with the next stage of the New World Order's agenda for global government. This is another astounding piece of evidence proving the long-term goals of the internationalists to vanquish national sovereignty and replace it with centralized world federalism.

In an interview with Brussels Journal, Bukovksy slams the European Union as a "monster" that needs to be destroyed before it develops into a fullfledged totalitarian state.

"The European Parliament is elected on the basis of proportional representation, which is not true representation. And what does it vote on? The percentage of fat in yoghurt, that kind of thing. It is ridiculous. It is given the task of the Supreme Soviet. The average MP can speak for six minutes per year in the Chamber. That is not a real parliament."

Calling it "blackmail," Bukovksy pointed out that citizens in countries like Ireland, Denmark and Switzerland were being forced to join the EU via means of endless referendums despite the fact that they consistently vote against it.

"It is a trick for idiots," he says. "The people have to vote in referendums until the people vote the way that is wanted. Then they have to stop voting. Why stop? Let us continue voting. The European Union is what Americans would call a shotgun marriage."

Bukovksy (pictured below) points out the mirror image of the EU's political structure to its Soviet counterpart.



"It is no accident that the European Parliament, for example, reminds me of the Supreme Soviet. It looks like the Supreme Soviet because it was designed like it. Similarly, when you look at the European Commission it looks like the Politburo. I mean it does so exactly, except for the fact that the Commission now has 25 members and the Politburo usually had 13 or 15 members. Apart from that they are exactly the same, unaccountable to anyone, not directly elected by anyone at all. When you look into all this bizarre activity of the European Union with its 80,000 pages of regulations it looks like Gosplan. We used to have an organisation which was planning everything in the economy, to the last nut and bolt, five years in advance. Exactly the same thing is happening in the EU. When you look at the type of EU corruption, it is exactly the Soviet type of corruption, going from top to bottom rather than going from bottom to top."

Bukovksy warns that hate speech laws are being crafted to label anyone who disagrees with the EU or is deemed politically incorrect as racist, meaning imprisonment in facilities not so far removed from the psychiatric institutions which he endured in the 60's and 70's.

A police state with complete diplomatic immunity and controlled by "former Stasi or Securitate officers" is predicted, as is a total economic collapse in Europe.

I urge you to read the full transcript of Bukovksy's speech as he describes the nuances in similarity of the Soviet and EU systems and how the path to tyranny is ahead unless, in Bukovksy's words, "one million people march on Brussels today" causing the architects of the EUSSR to "run away to the Bahamas."


LINK TO TRANSCRIPT - (YOU CAN LISTEN TO IT)
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/865

[STEED]

I just listen to the link well I am not to sure what to think some of what this Gentleman said is true other bits not sure never the less interesting so is Europe going to turn in to United Europe Socialist State in 15 years from now? :hmm:

[TteFAboB]

I don't get it. Redundant.

Going to be turned? How can you turn something into what it already is?

The idea is not new. It's strategically very clever. Instead of open confront where you can be easily identified as the enemy, go underground, pretend Soviet communism is dead and gone, hide and act covert.

The Berlin wall was teared by the East side too, you know.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

Going to be turned? How can you turn something into what it already is?

Well may Russian style socialist than the one we have now?

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

Instead of open confront where you can be easily identified as the enemy, go underground, pretend Soviet communism is dead and gone, hide and act covert.

You really think that there's an agenda inside the EU to turn in into a Communist state?

I can see how a general consensus (left-leaning) could be identified, but it seems you are looking for conspiracy where there is none

[STEED]

We shall see 15 years from now :hmm:

[TteFAboB]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

You really think that there's an agenda inside the EU to turn in into a Communist state?

I can see how a general consensus (left-leaning) could be identified, but it seems you are looking for conspiracy where there is none

Communist? "Russian style socialism" is postponed sine die, 5, 10, 15, 30 years, economical transformation would come lastly, first things first, that's centralizing power while nobody sees anything wrong with that as they're all looking the other way.

There's no conspiracy, when the time comes it will happen as if it were the most natural thing on Earth, universally accepted, endorsed peacefully by the majority of the population as the next logical step to follow.

Or will your grandchildren dare to oppose the EU consensus? Will the heretic raise his voice against justice, equality, welfare, human rights, multiculturalism and progress? :hmm:

[XabbaRus]

Hmm quite interesting.

Some of it makes sense, eg the centralisation and bureaucratisation of the EU.

Who knows, but anyway I think the EU has gone too far.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

I think the EU has gone too far.

Stick around more to come the EU

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by STEED

Stick around more to come the EU

Yeah, now that the EU has helped my country work its way out of an economic disaster, stem the flow of emigration, and assist the construction of a viable state, we should reduce it to a free trade agreement, just so the new members, that need help dont cost us anything.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by STEED

We shall see 15 years from now :hmm:

Yeah, wake me up then.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Yeah, now that the EU has helped my country work its way out of an economic disaster, stem the flow of emigration, and assist the construction of a viable state, we should reduce it to a free trade agreement, just so the new members, that need help dont cost us anything.

Excelent point.
Long live socialism
Long live the EU

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Yeah, now that the EU has helped my country work its way out of an economic disaster, stem the flow of emigration, and assist the construction of a viable state...

Can New York join?

[STEED]

‘Above all, the European Economic Community takes away Britain’s freedom to follow the sort of economic policies we need.’
Tony Blair, 1982

'We’ll negotiate a withdrawal from the EEC which has drained our natural resources and destroyed jobs.’
Tony Blair, 1983

‘On the day we remember the legend that St. George slayed a dragon to protect England, some would argue that there is another dragon to be slayed: Europe.’
Tony Blair, 1997

‘I am a passionate pro-European. I always have been.’
Tony Blair, 2005

Yes Tony Blair has got his next job in the EU

[Iceman]

Sorry only read the first of it..I thought it was going to go into how he was the recipeint of a billion dollars but needs your help to get the money and if you'd only give him your bank acct number so he can deposit the money into it he'd share it with ya...Doh!...SPAM...yummy spam