Benchmarking NYGM Ship Damage Mod

Der Teddy Bar · 01-19-06, 02:19 AM

Benchmarking NYGM Ship Damage Mod.

I am not looking to produce a Mod that simply makes it take longer to sink ships, I am wishing to make the NYGM Ship Damage Mod as accurate as the SHIII limitations will allow.

Let me repeat that â€œas accurate as the SHIII limitations will allowâ€

So we need a statistical benchmark as our starting point, for which to use to measure the NYGM Ship Damage Mod against.

These statistics are from Carl Doenitzâ€™s books.
40% sunk with 1 torpedo
38% required two or more torpedoes
22% escaped after being hit with 1 to 4 torpedoes

I quote â€œIn order to access the effectiveness of the torpedo detonated by mean of the contact pistol which we were compelled, for lack of a better, to use, we made an analysis of the 816 hits scored by u-boats between January and June 1942: 40 per cent of the ships, we found, had sunk with one torpedo, 38 per cent had required two or more before they sank, and 22 per cent escaped after being hit by anything from one to four torpedoes.â€

To clarify, Doenitz is saying, from January to June 1942 there were 816 hits scored by u-boats. This is not ships sunk, or total torpedoes fired, but actual torpedos that hit.

The first issue here is perspective. Doenitz does not indicate how many ships were sunk, only the percentages. The second issue is the accuracy of the number of hits.

Fact: From January to June 1942 there were 627 instances of ships being sunk or damaged. Of this there were 553 sunk (88%) and 74 damaged (12%).

For our analyses do we use the figure of 816? Do we round it down to 800 or up to 825 or even 850? Does anyone actually have a more precise figure that has come about due to post war analyses?

I am hoping that I may have some statistical information of what tonnage the ships were.

Salvadoreno · 01-19-06, 03:03 AM

sounds cool. definately.

booger2005 · 01-19-06, 07:23 PM

Why don't you look through the ships hit listing on uboat .net. Gives some detailed accounts, and even sometimes even says where a ship was hit, which is important too. I've noticed that those ships about 2000 K or less tended to sink like rocks, in minutes, with very few survivors. But by no means did I make a statistical analysis.

01-19-06, 02:19 AM	#1
Der Teddy Bar Blade Master Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,388 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Benchmarking NYGM Ship Damage Mod Benchmarking NYGM Ship Damage Mod. I am not looking to produce a Mod that simply makes it take longer to sink ships, I am wishing to make the NYGM Ship Damage Mod as accurate as the SHIII limitations will allow. Let me repeat that â€œas accurate as the SHIII limitations will allowâ€ So we need a statistical benchmark as our starting point, for which to use to measure the NYGM Ship Damage Mod against. These statistics are from Carl Doenitzâ€™s books. 40% sunk with 1 torpedo 38% required two or more torpedoes 22% escaped after being hit with 1 to 4 torpedoes I quote â€œIn order to access the effectiveness of the torpedo detonated by mean of the contact pistol which we were compelled, for lack of a better, to use, we made an analysis of the 816 hits scored by u-boats between January and June 1942: 40 per cent of the ships, we found, had sunk with one torpedo, 38 per cent had required two or more before they sank, and 22 per cent escaped after being hit by anything from one to four torpedoes.â€ To clarify, Doenitz is saying, from January to June 1942 there were 816 hits scored by u-boats. This is not ships sunk, or total torpedoes fired, but actual torpedos that hit. The first issue here is perspective. Doenitz does not indicate how many ships were sunk, only the percentages. The second issue is the accuracy of the number of hits. Fact: From January to June 1942 there were 627 instances of ships being sunk or damaged. Of this there were 553 sunk (88%) and 74 damaged (12%). For our analyses do we use the figure of 816? Do we round it down to 800 or up to 825 or even 850? Does anyone actually have a more precise figure that has come about due to post war analyses? I am hoping that I may have some statistical information of what tonnage the ships were.

01-19-06, 03:03 AM	#2
Salvadoreno Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 887 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	sounds cool. definately. __________________

01-19-06, 07:23 PM	#3
booger2005 Engineer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Akron Ohio Posts: 204 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Why don't you look through the ships hit listing on uboat .net. Gives some detailed accounts, and even sometimes even says where a ship was hit, which is important too. I've noticed that those ships about 2000 K or less tended to sink like rocks, in minutes, with very few survivors. But by no means did I make a statistical analysis.