SH3 with an Nvidia card!?

[stevo33]

Hello All,

Recently installed SH3. Great game, bar a few problems. Yes I'm patched up to 1.4b And here are my system specs:

Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Intel Pentium 4A, 2400 MHz
(Mainboard)MSI 865PE Neo2-PS
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 (256 MB)
2 gig Ram

Click on the blow links and you'll see what my problem is.

A good bad sun:

No glow, just a round disk in the sky. Looks like the sun through a dense fog, and its not even round half the time.

http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh15jb.jpg

A bad bad sun:

It tends to flicker and disappear altogether at times! Very annoying

http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/2451/sh27nm.jpg


So is this as good as it gets with an Nvidia?!

Are others having this same problem? By the way I have the AA on my card turned off. I have the lastest foreware drivers, but have also tried rolling them back, nothing works.

I'd like to hear from others about this, and find out if there any fix suggestions that you guys have.

I really want the great looking sun in all those lovely screen shots I saw, the ones that made me ge the game to start with !

Thanks!

Merry Xmas
Steve

[VON_CAPO]

I have NVIDIA FX5700 LE 256 Megas and it works perfect.
I am very happy with it.

[Oulton]

You'll have to try the various drivers from Nvidia.
I have a 6800 and I am using the 77.77 drivers, no problem.

Regards - Oulton

[kiwi_2005]

Its a driver problem, either update to the latest or go back to a previous.

[Col.Jimbo]

I have the same problem with the sun. I'm using an NVIDIA 6800 GT OC (256 meg) with the latest drivers. I've never had a good sun with any of the previous drivers either, unless I turn off AA within my video card settings. When I do that I get a good bright shinning sun but then have to deal with the jaggies.

[ironkross]

NVIDIA 6800 GT OC (256 meg)

Yeah, that's what I want for Christmas.

[stevo33]

I don't even get a sun if I turn of the AA. I guess all I can do is try different drivers, some of the older ones perhaps?

I'm amazed there is no fix or patch for this. At least I have not been able to find one. Very sloppy work from ubisoft! I have read about lots of Nvidia uses having problems.

[CWorth]

Originally Posted by stevo33

I'm amazed there is no fix or patch for this. At least I have not been able to find one. Very sloppy work from ubisoft! I have read about lots of Nvidia uses having problems.

Hold your horses there...Get your facts straight before commenting.

The problem does not lie with Ubisoft or the game..the entire problem lies with Nvidia and their sloppiness.Ubisoft can't do anything to fix the problem only Nvidia can and so far they have not done a very good job at it.

[stevo33]

If the sun works ok in every other game I have, Including other Ubisoft games. How come Nvidia is to blame for the one single game in which it doesn't?

If as a software company developing games you know there's an issue with Nvidia (Having of course tested your game using that hardware!) you create a work around for it, because at the end of the day its your game you're trying to sell to the public. Its no use just saying, ohh we didn't know.... and anyway its there fault. The idea is to write software for the available hardware... not the other way around.

That’s like Boeings airplanes crashing into the ground and them saying its not our fault its the company that made our fuel pipes. And of course we forgot to test them out!

Now that’s not to say that Nvidia is by an means in the clear in my book, of course they need to get their act together, but Ubisoft should have tested their product with Nvidia cards PROPERLY and dealt with it PROPERLY! Because this is NOT the only bug.

Anyways... I rolled my drivers back to version 61.77 and the sun now glows, although not correctly. The occlusion is very slow... when the sun moves onto the screen, or out from behind an object it slowly starts to increase in glow, very noticeable and still irritating. And also there is no glow through the binoculars or the periscope. Anyone else having problems? Is there a way to change the occulsion settings?




Thanks!

Steve

[Drebbel]

Originally Posted by stevo33

If the sun works ok in every other game I have, Including other Ubisoft games. How come Nvidia is to blame for the one single game in which it doesn't?

Because we had many discussions about this. If only the search feature in this forum was working properly you could find that discussion and read it all back. The SHIII dev-team AND nvidia confirmed it is a video driver problem.

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Fyi: These are the listed RESOLVED problems (release notes) for the 81.897 drivers in combination with SHIII:

• GeForce 6800/ 6600: Silent Hunter III characters located outside
experience random fogging effects.

[stevo33]

Thanks for the info

[Kalach]

I play without AA and the sun looks fine.
There used to be that UZO water spray issue, but I think that was fixed by a SH patch.
The only other problem I've had on my NVidia card is smoke issues, I updated to a recent driver and the smoke went from 'patchy' black smoke to good looking but white smoke... I installed one of the smoke mods and it seems fine now.
Hope that helps if you've had any of those problems

[stevo33]

Does the sun look fine through the periscope? Or the binoculars? What driver version are you using?

[sik1977]

I have a 7800GTX. I run SH3 on max settings on 1280x1024 resolution (through Dx9fix), with 4AA and 16x AF and high quality driver settings.

I have used 78.01, 81.85, 81.87 and 81.95 drivers with my setup. the figging bug was there with the 81.85 only. The current 81.95 run the game just fine with no noticiable issues such as missing sun glares etc. And yes SH3 looks amazingly pretty with all the Hi-rez mods i have installed.

[Crash Dive]

Nvidia is just as screwed up as anyone else. Who puts out a latest driver that messes up windows media player? Nvidia thats who. I updated my video drivers and now all my video playing programs look like the image through a thermal scope.