Helo Refueling video

Oberon · 11-15-05, 06:12 PM

Note to all you helo pilots out there....

Don't do this:

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga..._accident.mpeg

Syxx_Killer · 11-15-05, 06:59 PM

Oops.

DivingWind · 11-16-05, 02:26 PM

That's some wild manoeuvring shown in that video!

I will show it to all my friends!

Ula Jolly · 11-16-05, 03:16 PM

Jesus!
Isn't there some kind of.. Control Rotor or Refueling Limitation to the angle of the rotor upon refueling?? If not, there SHOULD be! Lucky lads.

Wim Libaers · 11-16-05, 04:38 PM

Ah yes, that one's a classic.

XabbaRus · 11-16-05, 05:26 PM

From what it looked like the drogue dragged the helicopter down and when he pulled up the rotor chopped the probe.

Sonoboy · 11-16-05, 06:36 PM

The drogue couldn't have dragged the helo down, they weren't even connected. From my observation, the pilot was following the drogue down, and when it came back up, he had to pull up to avoid chopping off the fuel line. The big problem was that when he was recovering, he pushed too far forward on the stick and chopped off his fuel probe.

sonar732 · 11-16-05, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonoboy

The drogue couldn't have dragged the helo down, they weren't even connected. From my observation, the pilot was following the drogue down, and when it came back up, he had to pull up to avoid chopping off the fuel line. The big problem was that when he was recovering, he pushed too far forward on the stick and chopped off his fuel probe.

I would've taken the probe instead of the fuel line anyday...imagine the video showing the chopper cutting the fuel line, ESD causing a fire, helicopter blowing up in mid-air and the fire following the fuel line and destroy the 'mother' plane/chopper.

LuftWolf · 11-16-05, 11:16 PM

I'd imagine they have some kind of baffling system that prevents that sort of catastrophic failure, at least for the refueling plane. :hmm:

Also, I think the line would be dry until a link is established.

Sonoboy · 11-17-05, 01:21 AM

Did you see the movie Stealth? It could happen! lol

Oberon · 11-17-05, 01:26 AM

Not just helicopters

http://imaginaryzero.com/multimedia/airdropmishaps.wmv

XabbaRus · 11-17-05, 04:20 AM

If you look you'll see a small cloud of fuel when the probe first starts to drop. The probe was in the basket at the time.

LuftWolf · 11-17-05, 08:55 PM

That is not my assessment of the video evidence.

Oh well, not my helo or tanker.

Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense · 11-19-05, 08:56 AM

i saw this a while back... my main concern in either case would've been a blade failure due to impact... that would've definitely been catastrphic...

i was actually quite surprised that they could dip so low... but then again, i know precious little about helos...

hey, nice video Oberon... looks like a few of the events were shot at airdrop capitol usa, pope afb and the fort bragg drop zones...

i'm sure a few loadmasters had some explaning to do after some of those malfunctions... and those lapes runs, wow... spectacular... especially the one where the vehicle continues down the field on its own

--Mike

XabbaRus · 11-19-05, 04:16 PM

OK my mistake just looked at the video in higher res and indeed the pilot followed the droguge.

Strange I thought he would have pulled back but then maybe he was under pressure...

Luftwolf what was with the "

"?

11-15-05, 06:12 PM	#1
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Helo Refueling video Note to all you helo pilots out there.... Don't do this: http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga..._accident.mpeg

11-16-05, 02:26 PM	#3
DivingWind Engineer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lithuania Posts: 211 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	That's some wild manoeuvring shown in that video! I will show it to all my friends! __________________

11-16-05, 03:16 PM	#4
Ula Jolly Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 567 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Jesus! Isn't there some kind of.. Control Rotor or Refueling Limitation to the angle of the rotor upon refueling?? If not, there SHOULD be! Lucky lads. __________________ I shall punish yee, landlubber! C'mere for spankings and popsicles!

11-16-05, 05:26 PM	#6
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	From what it looked like the drogue dragged the helicopter down and when he pulled up the rotor chopped the probe. __________________

11-16-05, 11:16 PM	#9
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I'd imagine they have some kind of baffling system that prevents that sort of catastrophic failure, at least for the refueling plane. :hmm: Also, I think the line would be dry until a link is established. __________________ LW

11-15-05, 06:59 PM	#2
Syxx_Killer Admiral Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 2,387 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Oops.

11-16-05, 04:38 PM	#5
Wim Libaers Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Flanders Posts: 569 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Ah yes, that one's a classic.

11-16-05, 06:36 PM	#7
Sonoboy Planesman Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: United States, CA Posts: 195 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The drogue couldn't have dragged the helo down, they weren't even connected. From my observation, the pilot was following the drogue down, and when it came back up, he had to pull up to avoid chopping off the fuel line. The big problem was that when he was recovering, he pushed too far forward on the stick and chopped off his fuel probe.

11-17-05, 01:21 AM	#10
Sonoboy Planesman Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: United States, CA Posts: 195 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Did you see the movie Stealth? It could happen! lol

11-17-05, 01:26 AM	#11
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Not just helicopters http://imaginaryzero.com/multimedia/airdropmishaps.wmv

11-17-05, 04:20 AM	#12
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	If you look you'll see a small cloud of fuel when the probe first starts to drop. The probe was in the basket at the time. __________________

11-17-05, 08:55 PM	#13
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	That is not my assessment of the video evidence. Oh well, not my helo or tanker. __________________ LW

11-19-05, 08:56 AM	#14
Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense Commander Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 445 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	i saw this a while back... my main concern in either case would've been a blade failure due to impact... that would've definitely been catastrphic... i was actually quite surprised that they could dip so low... but then again, i know precious little about helos... hey, nice video Oberon... looks like a few of the events were shot at airdrop capitol usa, pope afb and the fort bragg drop zones... i'm sure a few loadmasters had some explaning to do after some of those malfunctions... and those lapes runs, wow... spectacular... especially the one where the vehicle continues down the field on its own --Mike

11-19-05, 04:16 PM	#15
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	OK my mistake just looked at the video in higher res and indeed the pilot followed the droguge. Strange I thought he would have pulled back but then maybe he was under pressure... Luftwolf what was with the " "? __________________