Sound files now tweakable in Mini Tweaker

timetraveller · 12-03-05, 02:13 PM

Hi Guys,

Just finished a huge tweak file for changing sound file values (all 264 of them, all game ambience, explosions, etc., not voices)

Values you can change for every sound-

Loop
Play
Volume
VolumeVar
Pitch
PitchVar
Is3D
DopplerFactor
MinRadius
MaxRadius
Category
Priority
Delay

MaxRadius looks to be interesting, as do some others.

New tweak file is at:
www.delraydepot.com/tt/Sh3_sdl.zip

Unzip and save to the Mini Tweaker's \TweakFiles folder. The TweakFiles.zip package has been updated as well.

Hope you sound guys can do something with this. Have fun.

TT

Marhkimov · 12-03-05, 02:17 PM

Oh, we can use this to increase the range at which we can hear airplanes.

Man, I wonder what else we can do??

Just awesome!

CCIP · 12-03-05, 02:22 PM

Very cool!

Now I'm going to need to get this to tweak the prop noises a little.

Couple of suggestions for people:

TONE DOWN THE DAMN INTERIOR NOISE and electric props. They're so irritating :rotfl:
(seriously, silent running is supposed to be... silent)

I would also suggest increasing the max range and volume for things like ship propellers and DC explosions a bit - since sound travels very efficiently through water, it's odd when you only start hearing a full-power destroyer bearing down on you from a measly half-mile. :hmm:

B1989N · 12-03-05, 02:22 PM

Looks great! Thanks! Will try.

CCIP · 12-03-05, 02:23 PM

Oh, and TT - since sound setting like this are in the data...

Any chance you could find some of the settings for graphics sprites? I'm especially interested in things like smoke and bubbles. It would be nice to have taller smoke plumes in the game, for example.

Marhkimov · 12-03-05, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

Oh, and TT - since sound setting like this are in the data...

Any chance you could find some of the settings for graphics sprites? I'm especially interested in things like smoke and bubbles. It would be nice to have taller smoke plumes in the game, for example.

I think that stuff is outside the data folder. There's a file in the 'SilentHunterIII' folder called particles.ACT, and there's also a .DAT in the 'Library' folder.

timetraveller · 12-03-05, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

Oh, and TT - since sound setting like this are in the data...

Any chance you could find some of the settings for graphics sprites? I'm especially interested in things like smoke and bubbles. It would be nice to have taller smoke plumes in the game, for example.

I'll have a look CCIP. This one promises to be a little more difficult. Enigma Rising Tide has a cool setup for tweaking this stuff. It's all in text files. No so with this game. hehe

Thanks guys.

TT

CCIP · 12-03-05, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marhkimov

and there's also a .DAT in the 'Library' folder.

Well THAT's the one I'd like a look at.

If you could try and get a set of rules for the mini-tweaker or file analyzer for that, TT, it'd be much appreciated

timetraveller · 12-03-05, 02:52 PM

Just had a look in particles.dat. Man, there's a ton of stuff in there. Gotta study it some more. It'll be one complicated rule, but doable, I think.

TT

CCIP · 12-03-05, 03:04 PM

Excellent!

I thought smoke and things like that were hard-coded, but now that I saw that sound settings like these can be altered, I figured the particles could be looked at, also.

There's a lot of good potential there. From improving smoke to fixing those FPS-killing oil fires.

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Has anyone checked what 'MinRadius' does for the sound settings? It's not like the sound disappears if you get too close to the source. I'm trying to figure out, meanwhile, how to make certain things more audible at a distance from the boat :hmm:

timetraveller · 12-03-05, 03:21 PM

I see some objects (not all) also have an AmbientVolume value defined in their .DSD file. Just wondering how this interacts with the corresponding Volume level in the Sh3.sdl file.

Could be that the SH3.sdl file states the overall max volume, and the separate DSD file the actual level? If changing the Volume value in the SH3.sdl file makes no difference on some objects, I bet that's the case.

TT

iambecomelife · 12-03-05, 03:35 PM

I can't wait until the particles can be edited

. The files are pretty difficult to edit with a hex editing program. The changes are definitely possible; we've just been waiting for an easier way to make them.

gdogghenrikson · 12-03-05, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Hi Guys,

Just finished a huge tweak file for changing sound file values (all 264 of them, all game ambience, explosions, etc., not voices)

Man, do yo ever sleep

timetraveller · 12-03-05, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gdogghenrikson

Quote:

Hi Guys,

Just finished a huge tweak file for changing sound file values (all 264 of them, all game ambience, explosions, etc., not voices)

Man, do yo ever sleep

hehe Sure.

Actually if I had to type all 4500+ lines of that file manually, I'd probably throw in the towel and take up stamp collecting.

A special version of File Analyzer calculates all the offsets and names and produces a preliminary file. A little text editing or another program filters it further. That one took me about an hour.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. hehe

particles.dat has me scratchin' my head. That may be a manual operation. I might have to pick out the smoke and oil fire stuff and code it by hand. YUK.

TT

Observer · 12-03-05, 04:25 PM

timetraveller,

One more request. Can you take a look at the tile_***_***.RL files in the terrain\maps\map2 folder? I think it has the graphics that define the current grid location. If possible, I'd like to modify this to go from the current 2 grid location (BE93) to a four grid location (BE9336).

12-03-05, 02:13 PM	#1
timetraveller Beach Leaf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Atlantic Shipping Lanes Posts: 287 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Sound files now tweakable in Mini Tweaker Hi Guys, Just finished a huge tweak file for changing sound file values (all 264 of them, all game ambience, explosions, etc., not voices) Values you can change for every sound- Loop Play Volume VolumeVar Pitch PitchVar Is3D DopplerFactor MinRadius MaxRadius Category Priority Delay MaxRadius looks to be interesting, as do some others. New tweak file is at: www.delraydepot.com/tt/Sh3_sdl.zip Unzip and save to the Mini Tweaker's \TweakFiles folder. The TweakFiles.zip package has been updated as well. Hope you sound guys can do something with this. Have fun. TT

12-03-05, 02:17 PM	#2
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Oh, we can use this to increase the range at which we can hear airplanes. Man, I wonder what else we can do?? Just awesome! __________________ It takes two to tango

12-03-05, 02:22 PM	#3
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Very cool! Now I'm going to need to get this to tweak the prop noises a little. Couple of suggestions for people: TONE DOWN THE DAMN INTERIOR NOISE and electric props. They're so irritating :rotfl: (seriously, silent running is supposed to be... silent) I would also suggest increasing the max range and volume for things like ship propellers and DC explosions a bit - since sound travels very efficiently through water, it's odd when you only start hearing a full-power destroyer bearing down on you from a measly half-mile. :hmm: __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

12-03-05, 02:23 PM	#5
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Oh, and TT - since sound setting like this are in the data... Any chance you could find some of the settings for graphics sprites? I'm especially interested in things like smoke and bubbles. It would be nice to have taller smoke plumes in the game, for example. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

12-03-05, 03:04 PM	#10
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Excellent! I thought smoke and things like that were hard-coded, but now that I saw that sound settings like these can be altered, I figured the particles could be looked at, also. There's a lot of good potential there. From improving smoke to fixing those FPS-killing oil fires. * Has anyone checked what 'MinRadius' does for the sound settings? It's not like the sound disappears if you get too close to the source. I'm trying to figure out, meanwhile, how to make certain things more audible at a distance from the boat :hmm: __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet** (aka Captain Beefheart)

12-03-05, 02:22 PM	#4
B1989N Swabbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 7 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Looks great! Thanks! Will try.

12-03-05, 02:52 PM	#9
timetraveller Beach Leaf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Atlantic Shipping Lanes Posts: 287 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Just had a look in particles.dat. Man, there's a ton of stuff in there. Gotta study it some more. It'll be one complicated rule, but doable, I think. TT

12-03-05, 03:21 PM	#11
timetraveller Beach Leaf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Atlantic Shipping Lanes Posts: 287 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I see some objects (not all) also have an AmbientVolume value defined in their .DSD file. Just wondering how this interacts with the corresponding Volume level in the Sh3.sdl file. Could be that the SH3.sdl file states the overall max volume, and the separate DSD file the actual level? If changing the Volume value in the SH3.sdl file makes no difference on some objects, I bet that's the case. TT

12-03-05, 03:35 PM	#12
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,706 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	I can't wait until the particles can be edited . The files are pretty difficult to edit with a hex editing program. The changes are definitely possible; we've just been waiting for an easier way to make them. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

12-03-05, 04:25 PM	#15
Observer Commander Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 477 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	timetraveller, One more request. Can you take a look at the tile_*_*.RL files in the terrain\maps\map2 folder? I think it has the graphics that define the current grid location. If possible, I'd like to modify this to go from the current 2 grid location (BE93) to a four grid location (BE9336).