SH3 attack tactics you use yourself and your advice...

Brutom · 11-15-05, 10:34 PM

Just as far as basics...what tactics in making attacks seem to be effective for you as far as results vs. chances of surviving?
What beginners mistakes don't you make now that you know better?
I'm a beginner at this stuff myself, but do enjoy it a lot!
Thanks!

Redfoot · 11-15-05, 10:51 PM

I don't spend torpedoes unless I absolutely have to. Well placed shots on keel with the deckgun can sink Coastal merchants and Armed Trawlers in less than 5 shots.

Save on Flak ammo, especially after 1943. You'll need it.. Manually gun flak if possible.

ALWAYS operate the hydraphones yourself, don't trust your SO unless you're preoccupied. I'm convinced my Sonar Operator is either a tommy spy or he left his hearing aid back at the sub pen.

Try to get abeam from your targets at a perfect 90% angle, even if using magnetics. I tend to stay away from magnetics though, especially early on in the war.

P_Funk · 11-15-05, 10:51 PM

-Attack at night.
-Don't use magnetic pistol in especially rough seas.
-Try to attack abeam of your target (90 degrees off the keel of the ship).
-When a ship is near dont gun your engines or else he'll hear you and zig zag.
-Open torpedo tube doors before firing (the delay of opening throws off the firing solution).
-Get the Merchant Vulnerability Mod so that you don't waste many torpedoes trying to sink one ship (tells you where the hot spots to shoot at are).
-Don't try to play chicken with a destroyer and your deck gun.
-Fire steam powered torpedoes at night and electric powered torpedoes during sunlight hours (Steam powered torp leaves a visible wake while elec doesnt).
-Dont use any speed above "ahead 1/3" unless engaging or running away from an enemy to conserve fuel.
-Always remember that your greatest weapon is stealth.
-Beware of escorts when attacking a convoy (obviously) and try to attack when they are farther away from your target.
-Its alright to use your deck gun on smaller targets (under 2000 tons) to save torps.

These are general guide lines I follow and those are all that I can think of right now. I'll leave it to better players to write up more complete strategies.

Marhkimov · 11-15-05, 11:18 PM

You guys play SH3? Really? ... All I ever do is mod SH3...

Happy Times · 11-15-05, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by marhkimov

You guys play SH3? Really? ... All I ever do is mod SH3...

I have wondered do the modders have time to play and how much they get out of it. :hmm:

P_Funk · 11-16-05, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

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Originally Posted by marhkimov

You guys play SH3? Really? ... All I ever do is mod SH3...

I have wondered do the modders have time to play and how much they get out of it. :hmm:

Well they have to test it don't they? :hmm: That must be a very boring task: waiting 10 minutes for the game to load and then after 30 seconds quit to tweak it again... I like being a player.

CCIP · 11-16-05, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by P_Funk

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

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Originally Posted by marhkimov

You guys play SH3? Really? ... All I ever do is mod SH3...

I have wondered do the modders have time to play and how much they get out of it. :hmm:

Well they have to test it don't they? :hmm: That must be a very boring task: waiting 10 minutes for the game to load and then after 30 seconds quit to tweak it again... I like being a player.

Geez, don't remind me. I had a couple of weeks this summer I called "bomb-rinse-repeat" - that's what my days consisted of when tweaking RUb's damage and sensor model's

Marhkimov · 11-16-05, 12:19 AM

Well, modding and cruising these forums is almost a game in itself. In a weird and perverted way, it is actually kinda fun...

gdogghenrikson · 11-16-05, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by marhkimov

Well, modding and cruising these forums is almost a game in itself. In a weird and perverted way, it is actually kinda fun...

well said marhkimov

scrapser · 11-16-05, 12:30 PM

Nobody has said much about capital ships. I've had great success with my tactics and actually sank 5 battleships and a carrier in one patrol in my current campaign. If there's no fog and you are lucky enough to get in front of the battle group, set up about 1500 meters off their path (on their port side). Fire on the lead BB when it reaches 3300 meters (fire two keel shots as one will likely detonate prematurely).

If you hit the ship, the other ships will begin to zig-zag to port bringing them closer to you. Don't move and keep the scope down until needed. When the ships cross your bow, you will be able to shoot impact shots. I've been able to sink or cripple an entire task force this way. The escorts will prosecute and eventually steam off, leaving the crippled ships behind. You can then go back to P-depth and finish them off.

If there's fog, you have to do the same thing only position yourself to be within visual range, fire the first shots at 1000 meters (they will find their mark), and be ready to shoot the rest visually from the bow or stern depending on how things unfold.

scrapser

mookiemookie · 11-26-05, 02:14 AM

Buy the U-Boat Commander handbook. Study it well: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/093...books&v=glance

I guarantee you will come away from that with a couple new strategies. Or at least a new appreciation for the guys who really were on these boats.

JScones · 11-26-05, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

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Originally Posted by marhkimov

You guys play SH3? Really? ... All I ever do is mod SH3...

I have wondered do the modders have time to play and how much they get out of it. :hmm:

Well, since buying SH3 back in March I've completed 6 patrols in my one "personal" career. It is now 30 Jan 1940.

Conversely, I've started countless new careers and patrols in the name of SH3Cmdr testing. I enjoy it though...and so does my 3 year old daughter who likes watching the red progress bar meander across the screen, so it ain't all bad! LOL.

gdogghenrikson · 11-26-05, 03:17 AM

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I enjoy it though...and so does my 3 year old daughter who likes watching the red progress bar meander across the screen, so it ain't all bad! LOL.

Who knew SH3 could entertain a 3 year old :rotfl:

JScones · 11-26-05, 04:12 AM

I'm just worried that her Mum will hear her ask me whether I'm "sinking ships again, Daddy" and will consequently limit my SH3 playing hours.

For some unknown reason she thinks the kind of games I play (FPS, WWII sims) are a bad influence on one so young. :hmm:

Kalach · 11-26-05, 11:18 AM

If you're trying to be really quiet, moving at 2kts gets you detected a lot less than 3kts (the default for 'ahead slow').

Don't play games with the planes, they miss badly often, but you stop laughing very quickly when they do hit.

Don't shoot the planes down when they are coming directly at you

Don't waste your torps on the convoy escorts.

Know the water depth. If you ask water depth while enemy warships are close by they will hear the ping and search for you. (the water colour on the nav map is a fairly good indicator)

Batteries refill slower than your oxygen supply. I generaly move at 2kts submerged, you can go for at least 24hrs before your air supply gets short, and when you surface your batteries and air should be filled up at about the same time.

If you get inside a convoy the merchants noise will cover yours, allowing you to move at the same speed as them.

Know how deep your boat can go, and remember that this depth will decrease if you take any serious damage (look at the hull integrity bar if you have it)

If a ship you're following violently explodes you may be in a minefield (a lesson I learnt the hard way

)

Hope that helps, also keep reading these forums and you will learn lots of important bits. Experience is a good teacher too

11-15-05, 10:34 PM	#1
Brutom Nub Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cumberland Indiana USA Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SH3 attack tactics you use yourself and your advice... Just as far as basics...what tactics in making attacks seem to be effective for you as far as results vs. chances of surviving? What beginners mistakes don't you make now that you know better? I'm a beginner at this stuff myself, but do enjoy it a lot! Thanks!

11-15-05, 10:51 PM	#3
P_Funk Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 2,537 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	-Attack at night. -Don't use magnetic pistol in especially rough seas. -Try to attack abeam of your target (90 degrees off the keel of the ship). -When a ship is near dont gun your engines or else he'll hear you and zig zag. -Open torpedo tube doors before firing (the delay of opening throws off the firing solution). -Get the Merchant Vulnerability Mod so that you don't waste many torpedoes trying to sink one ship (tells you where the hot spots to shoot at are). -Don't try to play chicken with a destroyer and your deck gun. -Fire steam powered torpedoes at night and electric powered torpedoes during sunlight hours (Steam powered torp leaves a visible wake while elec doesnt). -Dont use any speed above "ahead 1/3" unless engaging or running away from an enemy to conserve fuel. -Always remember that your greatest weapon is stealth. -Beware of escorts when attacking a convoy (obviously) and try to attack when they are farther away from your target. -Its alright to use your deck gun on smaller targets (under 2000 tons) to save torps. These are general guide lines I follow and those are all that I can think of right now. I'll leave it to better players to write up more complete strategies. __________________

11-15-05, 11:18 PM	#4
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You guys play SH3? Really? ... All I ever do is mod SH3... __________________ It takes two to tango

11-16-05, 12:19 AM	#8
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, modding and cruising these forums is almost a game in itself. In a weird and perverted way, it is actually kinda fun... __________________ It takes two to tango

11-15-05, 10:51 PM	#2
Redfoot Watch Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 29 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't spend torpedoes unless I absolutely have to. Well placed shots on keel with the deckgun can sink Coastal merchants and Armed Trawlers in less than 5 shots. Save on Flak ammo, especially after 1943. You'll need it.. Manually gun flak if possible. ALWAYS operate the hydraphones yourself, don't trust your SO unless you're preoccupied. I'm convinced my Sonar Operator is either a tommy spy or he left his hearing aid back at the sub pen. Try to get abeam from your targets at a perfect 90% angle, even if using magnetics. I tend to stay away from magnetics though, especially early on in the war.

11-16-05, 12:30 PM	#10
scrapser Captain Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 530 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Nobody has said much about capital ships. I've had great success with my tactics and actually sank 5 battleships and a carrier in one patrol in my current campaign. If there's no fog and you are lucky enough to get in front of the battle group, set up about 1500 meters off their path (on their port side). Fire on the lead BB when it reaches 3300 meters (fire two keel shots as one will likely detonate prematurely). If you hit the ship, the other ships will begin to zig-zag to port bringing them closer to you. Don't move and keep the scope down until needed. When the ships cross your bow, you will be able to shoot impact shots. I've been able to sink or cripple an entire task force this way. The escorts will prosecute and eventually steam off, leaving the crippled ships behind. You can then go back to P-depth and finish them off. If there's fog, you have to do the same thing only position yourself to be within visual range, fire the first shots at 1000 meters (they will find their mark), and be ready to shoot the rest visually from the bow or stern depending on how things unfold. scrapser

11-26-05, 02:14 AM	#11
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Buy the U-Boat Commander handbook. Study it well: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/093...books&v=glance I guarantee you will come away from that with a couple new strategies. Or at least a new appreciation for the guys who really were on these boats.

11-26-05, 04:12 AM	#14
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I'm just worried that her Mum will hear her ask me whether I'm "sinking ships again, Daddy" and will consequently limit my SH3 playing hours. For some unknown reason she thinks the kind of games I play (FPS, WWII sims) are a bad influence on one so young. :hmm:

11-26-05, 11:18 AM	#15
Kalach Weps Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 366 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	If you're trying to be really quiet, moving at 2kts gets you detected a lot less than 3kts (the default for 'ahead slow'). Don't play games with the planes, they miss badly often, but you stop laughing very quickly when they do hit. Don't shoot the planes down when they are coming directly at you Don't waste your torps on the convoy escorts. Know the water depth. If you ask water depth while enemy warships are close by they will hear the ping and search for you. (the water colour on the nav map is a fairly good indicator) Batteries refill slower than your oxygen supply. I generaly move at 2kts submerged, you can go for at least 24hrs before your air supply gets short, and when you surface your batteries and air should be filled up at about the same time. If you get inside a convoy the merchants noise will cover yours, allowing you to move at the same speed as them. Know how deep your boat can go, and remember that this depth will decrease if you take any serious damage (look at the hull integrity bar if you have it) If a ship you're following violently explodes you may be in a minefield (a lesson I learnt the hard way ) Hope that helps, also keep reading these forums and you will learn lots of important bits. Experience is a good teacher too