Help from the Luftwaffe?

U-45 VIIB · 07-22-14, 08:04 PM

Is it possible to receive help from Luftwaffe? Like when attacking conveys, I got GWX gold or does this need another mod? I report conveys but bdu always says all other assets are otherwise committed and do not wait for reinforcements. Just curious thanks!

maillemaker · 07-23-14, 01:28 AM

I have seen it also, though in many years of playing I think I've only gotten help maybe 3 times.

Steve

banryu79 · 07-23-14, 03:24 AM

I do not know a thing about this feature, but logic suggest me that an airplane could potentially be sent if it is in range of a "valid spawn point" like: an Axis city in range of your contact's location or a KM airplane carrier in a similar position. I think this is the logic because I red somewhere (gwx related thread or gwx user manual) that in GWX airplanes and warships just do not spawn out-of-the-blue (for example when a HK group is sent against you if you are detected) but in enemy port/cities (I'm not sure about airplane carriers, but it does make sense, for me).

Schöneboom · 07-23-14, 11:19 AM

Ciao,

banryu79 has it right. To my knowledge there's no mod to ensure Luftwaffe attacks by your sending a contact report (I doubt interservice cooperation was that good except on a few occasions). Your targets just have to be within range of a German airbase, and if you're lucky, they will attack. I've witnessed this in GWX, for ex., in the Med, as the Luftwaffe had bases on Sicily.

Gute Jagd!

storm-petrel · 07-23-14, 01:01 PM

Hi...many moons ago I saw a large cargo get bombed by a ****e-Wulf BEFORE I had engaged it. This happened close to the south-east coast of England. There was a lot of smoke but the cargo continued into my path and I sank her.

No idea what triggered this Luftwaffe attack though

UKönig · 07-23-14, 03:27 PM

I was attacking Malta once, and we got an aircraft warning. I was about to dive and see what happens next, when all of a sudden, the planes start dropping bombs on the harbour. Taking a closer look, they were a flight of Ju-88s! They damaged some ships for us, which I was later able to finish off (this was the patrol that killed 2 of my crew), so I'm thankful for that much. But that so far was the only time I had ever seen the luftwaffe do, well, *anything*.

desirableroasted · 07-24-14, 06:57 PM

Many many moons ago, some Luftwaffe came in and shot up some targets. Couldn't tell you on a bet when and where, though.... though something says "Norway Campaign, April 40".

HW3 · 07-24-14, 08:52 PM

If you send a contact report, and a Luftwaffe base is within range of said contact, they might come and attack it if you haven't already sank it.

Kaptlt.Endrass · 07-25-14, 02:14 AM

In early 1943, I was engaging a Norwegian coastal vessel about 70 kilometers out from Trondhiem. A few minutes into the attack, two Bf. 110s showed up with no warning, and I hadn't sent a report. I personally think it's just hit and miss with the Luftwaffe.

Goering is quite the cranky old man when it comes to German airpower. I've sent contaqct reports of large convoys off of occupied France, early war, and recieved no help at all. In fact, the aforementioned incident has been the only time I've seen friendly aircraft on patrol, not including those when you are in base.

Ahnenerbe · 07-29-14, 03:50 PM

It's a fact, the enemy must be within coverage airbase aircraft can appear without sending a message, it happens sometimes (maybe patrol somewhere nearby), but the proximity of the base is required. Can serve as an airbase and vessel, which is the plane that is registered in cfg to this ship. You can check this in the mission editor.

Happy hunting!!

jreid666 · 07-30-14, 04:47 AM

I had the Luftwaffe steal my convoy from me before so they can stick to flying above land.

Thread:http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=208101

Otto Fuhrmann · 07-30-14, 06:20 AM

Happened once whilst I was sneaking around by Scapa Flow. Luftwaffe aircraft came in and attacked vessels docked in and around the port. As nice as it was to witness, it was much to my displeasure as they sank the two vessels I had planned on actually sinking..

Ahnenerbe · 07-30-14, 07:58 AM

There was a case, funny and ridiculous at the same time ...... Somehow came out from Brest, departed not very far from the base. And then became a member of observing such a situation .... Our boat, Ai 7C U-flac, fiercely fought with the British destroyer, firing anti-aircraft guns. So they chased each other for a while (I was watching from a distance of about 7-8 km), and of course I decided to help our Ai U-boat. And then out of nowhere came down several BV138.... Final obvious, destroyer sunk.
Are likely to have coincided scripts campaign, perhaps somewhere random load.

Otto Fuhrmann · 08-02-14, 06:44 AM

Yeah, I think it is definitely scripted, because I only ever really see them flying around when something important is happening, Like the invasion of Norway or something similar.

Andrewsdad · 08-02-14, 09:52 AM

Early war off the English coast. I was being hunted by two destroyers in water that was none too deep when I heard explosions and gunfire above. Turns out it was a flight of Ju-88's which failed to sink the ships, but allowed me to move some distance away.

As the destroyers began to hunt again a flight of STUKA's came and finished them off.

We sent a case of (virtual) champagne to the squadron.

Salute !!
AD

07-22-14, 08:04 PM	#1
U-45 VIIB Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 9 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Help from the Luftwaffe? Is it possible to receive help from Luftwaffe? Like when attacking conveys, I got GWX gold or does this need another mod? I report conveys but bdu always says all other assets are otherwise committed and do not wait for reinforcements. Just curious thanks!

07-23-14, 11:19 AM	#4
Schöneboom Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 651 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Ciao, banryu79 has it right. To my knowledge there's no mod to ensure Luftwaffe attacks by your sending a contact report (I doubt interservice cooperation was that good except on a few occasions). Your targets just have to be within range of a German airbase, and if you're lucky, they will attack. I've witnessed this in GWX, for ex., in the Med, as the Luftwaffe had bases on Sicily. Gute Jagd! __________________ Dietrich Schöneboom, U-431 "Es wird klappen, Herr Kaleun. Ganz sicher."

07-23-14, 03:27 PM	#6
UKönig Captain Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 495 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I was attacking Malta once, and we got an aircraft warning. I was about to dive and see what happens next, when all of a sudden, the planes start dropping bombs on the harbour. Taking a closer look, they were a flight of Ju-88s! They damaged some ships for us, which I was later able to finish off (this was the patrol that killed 2 of my crew), so I'm thankful for that much. But that so far was the only time I had ever seen the luftwaffe do, well, anything. __________________ Because I'm the captain, that's why!

07-24-14, 06:57 PM	#7
desirableroasted Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the mountains, now. On the edge of the sea before. Posts: 933 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Many many moons ago, some Luftwaffe came in and shot up some targets. Couldn't tell you on a bet when and where, though.... though something says "Norway Campaign, April 40". __________________ "Well, now, that's true... the IXC is a bit of a chick magnet..but you really can't beat the VIIB for off-road fun."

07-24-14, 08:52 PM	#8
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	If you send a contact report, and a Luftwaffe base is within range of said contact, they might come and attack it if you haven't already sank it. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

07-23-14, 01:28 AM	#2
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	I have seen it also, though in many years of playing I think I've only gotten help maybe 3 times. Steve

07-23-14, 03:24 AM	#3
banryu79 Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 554 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 2	I do not know a thing about this feature, but logic suggest me that an airplane could potentially be sent if it is in range of a "valid spawn point" like: an Axis city in range of your contact's location or a KM airplane carrier in a similar position. I think this is the logic because I red somewhere (gwx related thread or gwx user manual) that in GWX airplanes and warships just do not spawn out-of-the-blue (for example when a HK group is sent against you if you are detected) but in enemy port/cities (I'm not sure about airplane carriers, but it does make sense, for me).

07-23-14, 01:01 PM	#5
storm-petrel Mate Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Shropshire, GB Posts: 55 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 0	Hi...many moons ago I saw a large cargo get bombed by a ****e-Wulf BEFORE I had engaged it. This happened close to the south-east coast of England. There was a lot of smoke but the cargo continued into my path and I sank her. No idea what triggered this Luftwaffe attack though

07-25-14, 02:14 AM	#9
Kaptlt.Endrass Sonar Guy Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: No Longer On A Big Grey Floaty Thing Posts: 395 Downloads: 116 Uploads: 0	In early 1943, I was engaging a Norwegian coastal vessel about 70 kilometers out from Trondhiem. A few minutes into the attack, two Bf. 110s showed up with no warning, and I hadn't sent a report. I personally think it's just hit and miss with the Luftwaffe. Goering is quite the cranky old man when it comes to German airpower. I've sent contaqct reports of large convoys off of occupied France, early war, and recieved no help at all. In fact, the aforementioned incident has been the only time I've seen friendly aircraft on patrol, not including those when you are in base. __________________ "That flag and I are twins, born in the same hour from the same womb of destiny. We cannot be parted in life or in death; so long as we float, we shall float together." As much as I dislike it sometimes, I'm a tin can sailor, through and through.

07-29-14, 03:50 PM	#10
Ahnenerbe Soundman Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Ostland, Weissruthenien, Grodno Posts: 144 Downloads: 80 Uploads: 0	It's a fact, the enemy must be within coverage airbase aircraft can appear without sending a message, it happens sometimes (maybe patrol somewhere nearby), but the proximity of the base is required. Can serve as an airbase and vessel, which is the plane that is registered in cfg to this ship. You can check this in the mission editor. Happy hunting!! __________________

07-30-14, 04:47 AM	#11
jreid666 Helmsman Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: fraserburgh Posts: 104 Downloads: 296 Uploads: 0	I had the Luftwaffe steal my convoy from me before so they can stick to flying above land. Thread:http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=208101

07-30-14, 06:20 AM	#12
Otto Fuhrmann Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ireland Posts: 109 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	Happened once whilst I was sneaking around by Scapa Flow. Luftwaffe aircraft came in and attacked vessels docked in and around the port. As nice as it was to witness, it was much to my displeasure as they sank the two vessels I had planned on actually sinking..

07-30-14, 07:58 AM	#13
Ahnenerbe Soundman Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Ostland, Weissruthenien, Grodno Posts: 144 Downloads: 80 Uploads: 0	There was a case, funny and ridiculous at the same time ...... Somehow came out from Brest, departed not very far from the base. And then became a member of observing such a situation .... Our boat, Ai 7C U-flac, fiercely fought with the British destroyer, firing anti-aircraft guns. So they chased each other for a while (I was watching from a distance of about 7-8 km), and of course I decided to help our Ai U-boat. And then out of nowhere came down several BV138.... Final obvious, destroyer sunk. Are likely to have coincided scripts campaign, perhaps somewhere random load. __________________

08-02-14, 06:44 AM	#14
Otto Fuhrmann Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ireland Posts: 109 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I think it is definitely scripted, because I only ever really see them flying around when something important is happening, Like the invasion of Norway or something similar.

08-02-14, 09:52 AM	#15
Andrewsdad Machinist's Mate Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 130 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Early war off the English coast. I was being hunted by two destroyers in water that was none too deep when I heard explosions and gunfire above. Turns out it was a flight of Ju-88's which failed to sink the ships, but allowed me to move some distance away. As the destroyers began to hunt again a flight of STUKA's came and finished them off. We sent a case of (virtual) champagne to the squadron. Salute !! AD