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Old 08-25-05, 10:37 PM   #1
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I've almost mastered the Oliver Hazard Perry. The only part I'm missing is the towed array station in conjunction with TMA. It has taken awhile to get used to this platform as it is an extremely complex one. But I feel very confident hunting subs onboard this surface unit.

I've had alot of fun figuring this platform out, now I need to develop tactics.

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Old 08-25-05, 10:49 PM   #2
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But I feel very confident hunting subs onboard this surface unit.
AI or MP ?
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Old 08-25-05, 11:31 PM   #3
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I haven't been able to play online due to firewall issues or something. So I've been hunting AI subs. I'm sure a sub manned by a human opponent would be a much more ferocious experience. But AI submarines have fired their weapons at me. Maybe not as aggressive as a human opponent, but still got some teeth.

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Old 08-25-05, 11:49 PM   #4
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I haven't been able to play online due to firewall issues or something. So I've been hunting AI subs. I'm sure a sub manned by a human opponent would be a much more ferocious experience. But AI submarines have fired their weapons at me. Maybe not as aggressive as a human opponent, but still got some teeth.

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Humans tend to be much more liberal with the usage of ASMs. The SS-N-27, in particular, is a Perry slayer. Unmodded it's a Mach-3 cruising killing machine, often fired in pairs at unsuspecting skimmers.

With luftwolf's mod, the missile is 2-staged, subsonic before enabling, then popping up to aquire before a mach-3 terminal.

In either case, if you dont spot it and shoot it down early enough, you die.

Has anyone delt with harpoons and/or TASMs fired at Perries yet?
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Old 08-26-05, 12:34 AM   #5
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Has anyone delt with harpoons and/or TASMs fired at Perries yet?
Finiteless and me were paired up on an OHP one day against two 688s with a P-3 backing us up. We dodged about 8 torpedoes and shot down, decoyed or otherwise evaded nearly two dozen ASM from the 688(i)s.
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Old 08-26-05, 01:44 AM   #6
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bah the OHP will be mince meat if i get my hands on it

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Old 08-26-05, 02:39 AM   #7
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bah the OHP will be mince meat if i get my hands on it

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dont forget about thoose little helos......
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Old 08-26-05, 02:43 AM   #8
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bah the OHP will be mince meat if i get my hands on it

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First things first. We got to solve this problem of not being able to play online Kapitain. Then maybe you can get your chance.

And for the rest of you, I do find AAW missile defense to be very difficult in the Perry. It obviously was not designed for the job as a primary function. That's why I like to bring the Arleigh Burkes and the Tico's along on sub hunts. And they can help me give the Akula's a little ASROC death as well. But I've found, all in all, the Perry class is a fine sub hunter when you put the entire package together. This includes fully utilizing all sensor and the helo/ASTAC combinations. Fine ship indeed.

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Old 08-26-05, 02:45 AM   #9
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bah the OHP will be mince meat if i get my hands on it

sea deamon prepare to abandon ship
dont forget about thoose little helos......
Soulchaser, you beat me to it. Even if any sneaky Russkie gets his 27's off, the helos know where to find him. And we have one dead Russian sub...very quickly.

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Old 08-26-05, 06:23 AM   #10
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Also, you stil have CMs .. people often forget about them in OHP. Autocrew also sometimes fires just flares against missilies, so you can't get feeling that CMs does not work at all .. but if you fire 3 flares to both sides of the ship, it is really hard for the missile to hit you.
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not realy i dont like using the 27's i prefer the 65's so i can attack you from 500 maybe more meters
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Old 08-26-05, 06:50 AM   #12
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Ive been intrested in getting into the perry for a while though.

Are there any tutorials outside the manual and whats on the disk to help me?
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Old 08-26-05, 07:20 AM   #13
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not realy i dont like using the 27's i prefer the 65's so i can attack you from 500 maybe more meters
Good luck getting that close on a human opponent.
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Old 08-26-05, 07:43 AM   #14
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I've almost mastered the Oliver Hazard Perry. The only part I'm missing is the towed array station in conjunction with TMA. It has taken awhile to get used to this platform as it is an extremely complex one. But I feel very confident hunting subs onboard this surface unit.

I've had alot of fun figuring this platform out, now I need to develop tactics.

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Perhaps, when you want to get some hands-on tactic, you would like to go back to Jane's Fleet Command for some little experiements.

Funny thing is that a Perry Class FFG in Jane's Fleet Command doesn't like to do anything towards submarines. Maybe, I set them to deep underneath, 1,000 ft everytime. But as far as the Perry Class FFG is concerned, it is a superb platform according to military fact sheets.

As for me, I would rather jump onboard the Seahawk, get your relayed data and hunt down the submarine myself.
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Old 08-26-05, 09:23 AM   #15
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I like the OHP platform, too, although I haven't used it much. My favorite platforms are the Akula and the new Kilo. A matchup like this sounds quite fun. I think I'll have to start practicing, though.
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