Do torpedo boats fire their torpedoes?

hreich · 08-17-05, 04:45 AM

On one mission in my campaign, i surfaced near english torpedo boat, and exposed my broad side to him, set my speed to 0 knots...i waited for him to fire torpedoes, but he only fired guns?
Can somebody tell me if torpedo boats use them?

SmokinTep · 08-17-05, 05:17 AM

I have yet to see one launch one.

Gizzmoe · 08-17-05, 05:18 AM

No, they donÂ´t. The torpedo bombers also donÂ´t use them.

Ula Jolly · 08-17-05, 05:19 AM

If they're standing on the docks, they don't need boots if they've got sneakers.

Wow, that one sucked... but anyway, their torpedoes are IIRC used against larger shipping. What was your distance to the boat? It might not be very smart of him to fire a torp at you if you are able to steer away from it by applying flank.

Col7777 · 08-17-05, 05:35 AM

Ula Jolly,

Have you actually seen any ship fire off torpedoes, some of the them show they carry them in their cfg's?

Farside · 08-17-05, 06:10 AM

i havent een any, and personally i dont see the point in having a 'torpedo bomber' if it dont fire torps

Damo1977 · 08-17-05, 06:14 AM

I ask the same question long ago.............no enemy torps allowed...unless someone can crack the game engine code

....... and anyhow 3 deckgun shells answer the question...........

Ula Jolly · 08-17-05, 07:44 AM

"Momber, momber, momber!" :rotfl:
Haven't seen any ship fire a torp, no.

oRGy · 08-17-05, 08:31 AM

I suspect that the dev's didn't get the code working properly in time and just disabled it.

Rather unfortunate - destroyers, elco-boats, other submarines and torpedo bombers all used these as a primary weapon.

In fact, in late war the Allies used planes that dropped the FIDO homing torpedo against uboats - destroying about 60 of them.

The dev's didn't model this because it was an 'instant kill weapon' - however some form of enemy torpedo firing would be nice.

Col7777 · 08-17-05, 09:54 AM

Well it is a shame really, we had it in SH2 and it wasn't a great kill weapon for the AI, we got AI submarines working and they fired torpedoes as did a few destroyers.
It was a funny feeling hearing the sound-man say, "Torpedo sounds detected sir," when you knew you hadn't fired any.

Farside · 08-17-05, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by oRGy

I suspect that the dev's didn't get the code working properly in time and just disabled it.

maybe something to ask for in the expansion?

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Originally Posted by Col7777

It was a funny feeling hearing the sound-man say, "Torpedo sounds detected sir," when you knew you hadn't fired any.

I just thought it was scarey cand ended up diving to 70m's

I think if torpedo's were somehow 'fixed' then it would add a completely new edge to the elco's they would be feared a lot more and you would be less willing to fight it out on the surface (well, i would be less inclined to duke it out with 'em)

Type941 · 08-17-05, 11:12 AM

the destroyers and even battleships - all used torpedoes, so lack of this in SH3 is indeed dissapointing. But I guess we think of SH3 in terms of Naval sim, not Subsim.

As opposed to Ubi, who obviosly thought that the subs must fire torpedoes. Thankfully, they've done that part ok. The subs do fire torpedoes...

CB.. · 08-17-05, 11:17 AM

perhaps they couldn't sort the AI torp targetting system out in time..shame as they were insistent that they were going to add wolfpacks etc to the game...without the torps i guess that side of things went out the window...personaly i wouldnt have objected to subs and other ships that could only fire torps at dead ahead with no of the beam adjustment...even if it were a bit naff....some jiggery pokery with the mission files etc would still have allowed for wolfpack attacks ..mind you they didn't allow for ANY sub ai apparently...talk about throwing the baby out with the bath water..
sooner or late tho i'm betting it can be done...even if it isn't terribly pretty !

Shadow9216 · 08-17-05, 12:01 PM

So what happens if you add a T-V to a B-24 loadout? You guys have said the torpedo bombers don't drop torpedoes, but is that because they're not programmed to attack? So maybe a B-24, which IS programmed to attack, armed with a T-V would try to drop it on you...any thoughts on why this would/wouldn't work?

Zie Chuckinator · 08-17-05, 12:03 PM

also, late in the war, i think the Germans developed a radio guided missile which was fired from a Ju-88. is this modeled in the game?

08-17-05, 04:45 AM	#1
hreich Nub Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Do torpedo boats fire their torpedoes? On one mission in my campaign, i surfaced near english torpedo boat, and exposed my broad side to him, set my speed to 0 knots...i waited for him to fire torpedoes, but he only fired guns? Can somebody tell me if torpedo boats use them?

08-17-05, 05:19 AM	#4
Ula Jolly Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 567 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If they're standing on the docks, they don't need boots if they've got sneakers. Wow, that one sucked... but anyway, their torpedoes are IIRC used against larger shipping. What was your distance to the boat? It might not be very smart of him to fire a torp at you if you are able to steer away from it by applying flank. __________________ I shall punish yee, landlubber! C'mere for spankings and popsicles!

08-17-05, 05:35 AM	#5
Col7777 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 944 Downloads: 260 Uploads: 0	Ula Jolly, Have you actually seen any ship fire off torpedoes, some of the them show they carry them in their cfg's? __________________ Silent and Violent

08-17-05, 06:10 AM	#6
Farside Sparky Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 155 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	i havent een any, and personally i dont see the point in having a 'torpedo bomber' if it dont fire torps __________________ Good Hunting! Torpedo Problems? Check out my thread for FAQ\'s and running depths!

08-17-05, 06:14 AM	#7
Damo1977 Captain Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 487 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I ask the same question long ago.............no enemy torps allowed...unless someone can crack the game engine code ....... and anyhow 3 deckgun shells answer the question........... __________________ \"If man is called to be to be a streetsweeper, he should sweep streets even as Michelangelo painted, or Beethoven composed music, or Shakespeare wrote poetry. He should sweep streets so well that all the hosts of heaven and earth will pause to say, here lived a great streetsweeper who did his job well\" Martin Luther King, Jr

08-17-05, 05:17 AM	#2
SmokinTep Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Suffolk, Virginia Posts: 1,027 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have yet to see one launch one.

08-17-05, 05:18 AM	#3
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	No, they donÂ´t. The torpedo bombers also donÂ´t use them.

08-17-05, 07:44 AM	#8
Ula Jolly Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 567 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	"Momber, momber, momber!" :rotfl: Haven't seen any ship fire a torp, no. __________________ I shall punish yee, landlubber! C'mere for spankings and popsicles!

08-17-05, 08:31 AM	#9
oRGy Crusty Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 648 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I suspect that the dev's didn't get the code working properly in time and just disabled it. Rather unfortunate - destroyers, elco-boats, other submarines and torpedo bombers all used these as a primary weapon. In fact, in late war the Allies used planes that dropped the FIDO homing torpedo against uboats - destroying about 60 of them. The dev's didn't model this because it was an 'instant kill weapon' - however some form of enemy torpedo firing would be nice.

08-17-05, 09:54 AM	#10
Col7777 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 944 Downloads: 260 Uploads: 0	Well it is a shame really, we had it in SH2 and it wasn't a great kill weapon for the AI, we got AI submarines working and they fired torpedoes as did a few destroyers. It was a funny feeling hearing the sound-man say, "Torpedo sounds detected sir," when you knew you hadn't fired any. __________________ Silent and Violent

08-17-05, 11:12 AM	#12
Type941 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: U-52 Posts: 1,270 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	the destroyers and even battleships - all used torpedoes, so lack of this in SH3 is indeed dissapointing. But I guess we think of SH3 in terms of Naval sim, not Subsim. As opposed to Ubi, who obviosly thought that the subs must fire torpedoes. Thankfully, they've done that part ok. The subs do fire torpedoes... __________________ Sink the Bismarck SH3 Movie

08-17-05, 11:17 AM	#13
CB.. Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,278 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	perhaps they couldn't sort the AI torp targetting system out in time..shame as they were insistent that they were going to add wolfpacks etc to the game...without the torps i guess that side of things went out the window...personaly i wouldnt have objected to subs and other ships that could only fire torps at dead ahead with no of the beam adjustment...even if it were a bit naff....some jiggery pokery with the mission files etc would still have allowed for wolfpack attacks ..mind you they didn't allow for ANY sub ai apparently...talk about throwing the baby out with the bath water.. sooner or late tho i'm betting it can be done...even if it isn't terribly pretty ! __________________ the world's tinyiest sh3 supermod- and other SH3/SH2 stuff http://www.ebort2.co.uk/ The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W.B.Yeats

08-17-05, 12:01 PM	#14
Shadow9216 Frogman Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 296 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	So what happens if you add a T-V to a B-24 loadout? You guys have said the torpedo bombers don't drop torpedoes, but is that because they're not programmed to attack? So maybe a B-24, which IS programmed to attack, armed with a T-V would try to drop it on you...any thoughts on why this would/wouldn't work?

08-17-05, 12:03 PM	#15
Zie Chuckinator Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: up ur butt and around the corner... Posts: 121 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	also, late in the war, i think the Germans developed a radio guided missile which was fired from a Ju-88. is this modeled in the game? __________________ Weekends don\'t count unless you spend them doing something completely pointless. -- Calvin Miss Wormwood: What state do you live in? Calvin: Denial. Miss Wormwood: I don\'t suppose I can argue with that... The only skills I have patience to learn are those that have no real application in life. -- Calvin If you do the job badly enough, sometimes you don\'t get asked to do it again. -- Calvin