Is UUV usage by the player an exploit?

MarkShot · 08-10-05, 09:18 PM

I recently just started (learned to) use the UUV {mainly in SCXIIC}. My results have improved tremendously. I am able shoot much sooner, accurately wire guide my weapon at most critical moments, and avoid enemy counter-fire if it should come to that.

Given the big impact that employing UUVs makes would you consider this to be a player exploit? {Do some refrain from as a matter of "house rules"?}

Thanks.

TLAM Strike · 08-10-05, 09:25 PM

With UUVs you get TIWs (In DW atleast) so you just gave bearing to the other guy.

MarkShot · 08-10-05, 09:31 PM

Just to be clear - in am talking about SP.

Bellman · 08-11-05, 12:39 AM

Nup - SS put it in your weapons loadout store, so I guess they meant you to use it. :hmm:

Kapitan · 08-11-05, 01:19 AM

i dont know realy dont realy use the UUV

JamesT73J · 08-11-05, 05:14 AM

Can be a double-edged sword.

It will usually detect you immediately, cluttering your plot, not to mention all the contacts you may alread have precise TMA on. It's also possible that it can mask your sonar on whatever bearing it is relative to you.

The TIW warning isn't really a no-no in single player, but a dead giveaway online.

James

Fish · 08-11-05, 07:39 AM

FYI, the UUV launched deep and hold there won't give TIW.
It only give TIW when it start cavitating. :|\

Bellman · 08-11-05, 08:33 AM

Fish

:|\

Bellman · 08-11-05, 08:39 AM

An afterthought - is it possible to launch torps slow and deep and avoid TIW ? :hmm:

Never seen it - never done it but.......?

Kapitan · 08-11-05, 08:40 AM

possibly but doubtful i dont launch torpedos any deeper than 400 meters unless i realy have to i prefer to do it the old way ie come to periscope depth and fire

Takeda Shingen · 08-11-05, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitain

possibly but doubtful i dont launch torpedos any deeper than 400 meters unless i realy have to i prefer to do it the old way ie come to periscope depth and fire

Kind of silly in sub v sub combat.

Kapitan · 08-11-05, 08:53 AM

i was meaning sub v surface sub v sub then its totaly diffrent i got a set agenda which i normaly stick by its one of those if you do this i do that sort of things

i do certain routes to certain places i do certain weapons for certain missions i do all sorts of things its like a channel i dont real deviate from it unless i have to because i know my systerm works

timmyg00 · 08-11-05, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bellman

An afterthought - is it possible to launch torps slow and deep and avoid TIW ? :hmm:

Never seen it - never done it but.......?

No. I don't think the torpedo's motor noise is reduced by launching it at slow speed (in the sim).

TG

Takeda Shingen · 08-11-05, 08:56 AM

I believe they were talking about ASW, not ASUW. There is little need for a decoy when combating a platform that you will always detect first.

Kapitan · 08-11-05, 08:58 AM

not always i didnt detect a 90,000 tonne aircraft carrier and what happend slammed right into me

08-10-05, 09:18 PM	#1
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	Is UUV usage by the player an exploit? I recently just started (learned to) use the UUV {mainly in SCXIIC}. My results have improved tremendously. I am able shoot much sooner, accurately wire guide my weapon at most critical moments, and avoid enemy counter-fire if it should come to that. Given the big impact that employing UUVs makes would you consider this to be a player exploit? {Do some refrain from as a matter of "house rules"?} Thanks. __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

08-10-05, 09:25 PM	#2
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	With UUVs you get TIWs (In DW atleast) so you just gave bearing to the other guy. __________________

08-10-05, 09:31 PM	#3
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	Just to be clear - in am talking about SP. __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

08-11-05, 01:19 AM	#5
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	i dont know realy dont realy use the UUV __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

08-11-05, 08:40 AM	#10
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	possibly but doubtful i dont launch torpedos any deeper than 400 meters unless i realy have to i prefer to do it the old way ie come to periscope depth and fire __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

08-11-05, 12:39 AM	#4
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Nup - SS put it in your weapons loadout store, so I guess they meant you to use it. :hmm:

08-11-05, 05:14 AM	#6
JamesT73J Medic Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 167 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Can be a double-edged sword. It will usually detect you immediately, cluttering your plot, not to mention all the contacts you may alread have precise TMA on. It's also possible that it can mask your sonar on whatever bearing it is relative to you. The TIW warning isn't really a no-no in single player, but a dead giveaway online. James

08-11-05, 07:39 AM	#7
Fish Eternal Patrol Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,923 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	FYI, the UUV launched deep and hold there won't give TIW. It only give TIW when it start cavitating. :\|\

08-11-05, 08:33 AM	#8
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Fish :\|\

08-11-05, 08:39 AM	#9
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	An afterthought - is it possible to launch torps slow and deep and avoid TIW ? :hmm: Never seen it - never done it but.......?

08-11-05, 08:53 AM	#12
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	i was meaning sub v surface sub v sub then its totaly diffrent i got a set agenda which i normaly stick by its one of those if you do this i do that sort of things i do certain routes to certain places i do certain weapons for certain missions i do all sorts of things its like a channel i dont real deviate from it unless i have to because i know my systerm works __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

08-11-05, 08:56 AM	#14
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I believe they were talking about ASW, not ASUW. There is little need for a decoy when combating a platform that you will always detect first.

08-11-05, 08:58 AM	#15
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	not always i didnt detect a 90,000 tonne aircraft carrier and what happend slammed right into me __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/