Silent Hunter III Iron Man Rules

CWorth · 07-11-05, 08:40 PM

This is primarily aimed at the die hard realism group.

I was just wondering what if any rules you use to make your experience with SH3 more realistic and more fun?
Rules you use to keep yourself from doing things that a real Uboat captain would not do.Things like decimating a single convoy with a single Uboat.Dueling with every aircraft you see on the surface etc. etc.

For example

1. I will only sink 2-3 ships in a convoy when I attack.I will pick out the ships that would be most critical to the allied war effort and aim at them like tankers and troop ships and the largest merchants .I will then move off and go to my next patrol area.

2. I will always dive when attacked by aircraft.I will not engage any aircraft on the surface unless damage to my boat prevents me from submerging.

3. After my 5th patrol I will roll a die to determine whether or not I will retire from my career.Evens means I continue for one more patrol and then I roll again after that one..Odds means I end my career right then and there.

4. I will not ram any ship with my boat.

5. I will only sneak into 1 harbor during my entire career.No more after that.

These are my rules I set for myself and I am enjoying the game alot more using them.

So post your rules or such that you go by and maybe we can combine these into a single Iron Man ruleset for people who like more realism.

07-11-05, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CWorth

3. After my 5th patrol I will roll a die to determine whether or not I will retire from my career.Evens means I continue for one more patrol and then I roll again after that one..Odds means I end my career right then and there.

I was wondering, were UBoat captains given the option to retire from patrols (after 5, for example) in real life? I'm guessing yes.

Caleb · 07-11-05, 08:54 PM

one and only rule - don't die.

CWorth · 07-11-05, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Grifter808

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Originally Posted by CWorth

3. After my 5th patrol I will roll a die to determine whether or not I will retire from my career.Evens means I continue for one more patrol and then I roll again after that one..Odds means I end my career right then and there.

I was wondering, were UBoat captains given the option to retire from patrols (after 5, for example) in real life? I'm guessing yes.

I guess I may have worded that wrong.Im not retiring in the true sense of the word,just my career is ended for any odd reason like sickeness,called to Berlin,called to train other crews etc etc.

KL Seestern · 07-11-05, 09:07 PM

I think that if you play at full realism along with the Real U-Boat mod, realistic targeting, and so on, you don't really need these rules! It's very hard to decimate convoys, fight it out with aircraft, etc. And as for ending your career, I think Beery suggested something like your system in the Real U-Boat readme file, and I seem to recall that he included an option to simulate it in the latest version of the SH3 Commander mod.

don1reed · 07-11-05, 09:29 PM

additionally,

Do not attack escorts unless it becomes a matter of self preservation and/or unless they attack first. Save your eels for the merchant fleet.

Do at least one TC X1 patrol per year of the war.

Play @ 100%, no cameras allowed, no God's eye. Find targets the old fashion way.

Do not attack shipping until you reach the Area of Operation. Avoid targets of opportunity until you've reached your ordered destination.

Do not use the deck gun greater than 1500m away from target.

Do not use the periscope LOCK ON Target feature...this means, of course, you've got to use some other method of determining AOB, Speed, Range.

RogerWong · 07-11-05, 09:34 PM

do not use time acceleration.

Muahahahaa.

Sawdust · 07-11-05, 09:42 PM

Can you make it so your U-boat position is not indicated on the map at all? That would be...difficult.

don1reed · 07-11-05, 09:45 PM

yep, just don't use the F5 screen...

Curzon · 07-11-05, 10:03 PM

I use RuB 1.41 and SHIII Commander 1.42 ... Beery's mods are great and Commander using realistic career gives my Captain the opportunity of being sent off to a training Flotilla ... 3 careers so far and haven't got past 1941 ... Dead is dead! ... I don't attack escorts unless it is going to make my life really really easy (which has only happened once!) ... take out targets of most economic value ... and of course, always at 100%.

Treeburst155 · 07-11-05, 10:21 PM

No navmap unless on the surface. Even that is a cheat if it is really overcast. Could they do celestial navigation through the periscope? I've been wondering about that. If so, periscope depth would be good enough to make F5 "legal".

Treeburst155 out.

Floater · 07-11-05, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Treeburst155

Could they do celestial navigation through the periscope? I've been wondering about that.

Yes, they could, but it wasn't as accurate as using a sextant on the bridge. In most cases, it was near enough, though.

finchOU · 07-11-05, 10:36 PM

Its too bad we dont have the option to actually have to navigate realisticlly. That would be a first for a Naval Sim.....it would make things very interesting IMHO.

gdogghenrikson · 07-11-05, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CWorth

3. After my 5th patrol I will roll a die to determine whether or not I will retire from my career.Evens means I continue for one more patrol and then I roll again after that one..Odds means I end my career right then and there.

Sorry man this isnt AD&D THere was no diece rolling in ww2

sdcruz · 07-12-05, 03:15 AM

No UBoat captain would ever ram his boat -

And yes I always dive when aircraft spotted!

I never attack escorts - not worth the tonnage

ANd yes, most UBoat captains would serve maybe 5-8 patrols and then retire.

Regards
Shelton.

07-11-05, 08:40 PM	#1
CWorth Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gettysburg PA Posts: 845 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Silent Hunter III Iron Man Rules This is primarily aimed at the die hard realism group. I was just wondering what if any rules you use to make your experience with SH3 more realistic and more fun? Rules you use to keep yourself from doing things that a real Uboat captain would not do.Things like decimating a single convoy with a single Uboat.Dueling with every aircraft you see on the surface etc. etc. For example 1. I will only sink 2-3 ships in a convoy when I attack.I will pick out the ships that would be most critical to the allied war effort and aim at them like tankers and troop ships and the largest merchants .I will then move off and go to my next patrol area. 2. I will always dive when attacked by aircraft.I will not engage any aircraft on the surface unless damage to my boat prevents me from submerging. 3. After my 5th patrol I will roll a die to determine whether or not I will retire from my career.Evens means I continue for one more patrol and then I roll again after that one..Odds means I end my career right then and there. 4. I will not ram any ship with my boat. 5. I will only sneak into 1 harbor during my entire career.No more after that. These are my rules I set for myself and I am enjoying the game alot more using them. So post your rules or such that you go by and maybe we can combine these into a single Iron Man ruleset for people who like more realism.

07-11-05, 09:42 PM	#8
Sawdust Planesman Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Quadrant DB22 Posts: 198 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Can you make it so your U-boat position is not indicated on the map at all? That would be...difficult. __________________ .-. --- ..- --. .... ... . .- ... .- .... . .- -..

07-11-05, 10:03 PM	#10
Curzon Nub Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 2 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	I use RuB 1.41 and SHIII Commander 1.42 ... Beery's mods are great and Commander using realistic career gives my Captain the opportunity of being sent off to a training Flotilla ... 3 careers so far and haven't got past 1941 ... Dead is dead! ... I don't attack escorts unless it is going to make my life really really easy (which has only happened once!) ... take out targets of most economic value ... and of course, always at 100%. __________________ Quadus recte factum, quamus humile, praeclarum.

07-12-05, 03:15 AM	#15
sdcruz Loader Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 84 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No UBoat captain would ever ram his boat - And yes I always dive when aircraft spotted! I never attack escorts - not worth the tonnage ANd yes, most UBoat captains would serve maybe 5-8 patrols and then retire. Regards Shelton. __________________ MORS OMNIA VINCIT

07-11-05, 08:54 PM	#3
Caleb Watch Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hawaii Posts: 16 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	one and only rule - don't die.

07-11-05, 09:07 PM	#5
KL Seestern Mate Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 53 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	I think that if you play at full realism along with the Real U-Boat mod, realistic targeting, and so on, you don't really need these rules! It's very hard to decimate convoys, fight it out with aircraft, etc. And as for ending your career, I think Beery suggested something like your system in the Real U-Boat readme file, and I seem to recall that he included an option to simulate it in the latest version of the SH3 Commander mod.

07-11-05, 09:29 PM	#6
don1reed Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Valhalla: Silent Generation Posts: 1,149 Downloads: 910 Uploads: 0	additionally, Do not attack escorts unless it becomes a matter of self preservation and/or unless they attack first. Save your eels for the merchant fleet. Do at least one TC X1 patrol per year of the war. Play @ 100%, no cameras allowed, no God's eye. Find targets the old fashion way. Do not attack shipping until you reach the Area of Operation. Avoid targets of opportunity until you've reached your ordered destination. Do not use the deck gun greater than 1500m away from target. Do not use the periscope LOCK ON Target feature...this means, of course, you've got to use some other method of determining AOB, Speed, Range.

07-11-05, 09:34 PM	#7
RogerWong Bilge Rat Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Austin, TX, periscope depth Posts: 1 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	do not use time acceleration. Muahahahaa.

07-11-05, 09:45 PM	#9
don1reed Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Valhalla: Silent Generation Posts: 1,149 Downloads: 910 Uploads: 0	yep, just don't use the F5 screen...

07-11-05, 10:21 PM	#11
Treeburst155 Watch Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 16 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No navmap unless on the surface. Even that is a cheat if it is really overcast. Could they do celestial navigation through the periscope? I've been wondering about that. If so, periscope depth would be good enough to make F5 "legal". Treeburst155 out.

07-11-05, 10:36 PM	#13
finchOU Samurai Navy Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 571 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Its too bad we dont have the option to actually have to navigate realisticlly. That would be a first for a Naval Sim.....it would make things very interesting IMHO.